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michael1123
Post Posted: Mon, 21 Jun 2004, 2:44am    Post subject: Worst damn beat I've ever had Reply with quote
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I played it really damn slow ... but I thought there was no way on earth this hand was getting beaten. I was hoping he'd hit something.

Game started at: 02:10:01 06/21/04
Game ID: 491571 150/300 $500 Guaranteed $5+.50 rebuys #29, Table 1 (Hold'em)
Seat 10 is the button
Seat 1: michael1123 (3925).
Seat 2: pachanga74 (4620).
Seat 5: KIDD-CINCI (1100).
Seat 6: jadbox1 (4995).
Seat 7: REDDOG (5790).
Seat 8: famousvamos1 (1210).
Seat 9: fattmatt (4205).
Seat 10: JesterPebbles (7135).
Player michael1123 has small blind (75)
Player pachanga74 has big blind (150)
Player michael1123 received card: Nine of Hearts
Player michael1123 received card: Nine of Diamonds
Player KIDD-CINCI folds
Player jadbox1 folds
Player REDDOG folds
Player famousvamos1 folds
Player fattmatt folds
Player JesterPebbles folds
Player michael1123 raises (450)
Player pachanga74 calls (375)
*** FLOP ***: Ace of Diamonds Five of Clubs Nine of Spades

Player michael1123 checks (my odds to win at this point are ... 95.66% ... and they would've been 98.38% if the guy's hole cards were offsuit, which they might as well have been)

Player pachanga74 checks
*** TURN ***: Ace of Diamonds Five of Clubs Nine of Spades Seven of Hearts

Player michael1123 bets (300) (I know this is where I screwed up. I should've bet more, but I figured being heads up with the rainbow board, there's no way what is about to happen is going to happen ... Anyway, my odds to win here are still 91%)

Player pachanga74 calls (300)
*** RIVER ***: Ace of Diamonds Five of Clubs Nine of Spades Seven of Hearts Six of Hearts

Player michael1123 bets (1000) (just the thought that now it'd only take one card to beat me sent me realing. So I still bet it hard, and luckily he didn't reraise, because I was already on tilt enough to call)

Player pachanga74 calls (1000)

------ Summary ------
Pot: 3650. Rake: 0
Board: [Ad 5c 9s 7h 6h]
Player michael1123 shows: Three Of Kind of 9s Nine of Hearts Nine of Diamonds. Bets: 1825. Collects: 0
Loses: 1825
*Player pachanga74 shows: Straight to 9 King of Spades Eight of Spades. Bets: 1825. Collects: 3650
Wins: 1825
Game ended at: 02:10:56 06/21/04

The entire tourney was worthless after that. I was on major tilt, and went all in on the turn with 2nd best pair. The same guy calls on a flush draw and hits it on the river, knocking me out 2 before we get into the money. Man, I hate that guy.


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maxxscam
Post Posted: Mon, 21 Jun 2004, 3:02am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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just be happy the retard didnt reraise you, that was a huge mistake on his part
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michael1123
Post Posted: Mon, 21 Jun 2004, 3:09am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Yes he should've, and he may has well have. I was so on tilt after the hand, I was dead anyway.

I just wanted my chips back, and felt like I deserved him for the grave injustice I suffered. Sure fire proof that you're on tilt.
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Post Posted: Mon, 21 Jun 2004, 3:01pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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OK, I'm putting myself in the other guys shoes.

I have big blind. It's folded around, and the small blind raises pre-flop (I shift into head-to-head tactics and K8s isn't that bad in that situation, and I have position) I call.

I miss my flop, I check.

The turn gives me an inside straight draw and a good high card. After checks around on the flop, and a small bet (only 2x the big blind) I assume that you are just trying to stab again. I call.

The river makes my straight. The only thing I have to fear is a T8 and with such a big bet, I have to assume that you either have an 8 or a T8. I may be scared of the T8, but I can't give this away, I have a straight. I call.

It sucks to get out-drawn on runner-runner. But I can understand why he did this.
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michael1123
Post Posted: Mon, 21 Jun 2004, 9:05pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I understand why he called to the river as well, since I played it so damn slow. I think its a bit too conservative to assume that there's a decent chance I have the T8 though, and not reraise. But that's an acceptable move if you want to be really conservative, because if they do have T8, they're going to shove all in once you raise.

Mainly I'm just pissed that the poker gods frowned upon me, and I could've prevented it by playing it straight and not slowplaying. Its not like its really his fault, like it would be if I bet it hard to begin with. Its just really horrid luck.
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michael1123
Post Posted: Sat, 26 Jun 2004, 6:45pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Man, looking back on this hand I really hate the way I played it, and not even because I was beat.

Lets say I played it the exact same way, and he folds on the river. After the flop where I hit my set, all I got was 300 lousy chips, which is the size of one big blind. And that's after giving him an opportunity to outdraw my set with a possible straight draw on the river. If I'm going to risk him outdrawing me, no matter how small the chances are, he should have to pay me for this opportunity.

First thing, I'm a person that's likely to pressure the big blind heads up with any decent hand, and that's really common in multi-table tournaments, so he probably assumed that with my preflop raise. At the flop, I have absolutely no reason not to at least make a decent bet that is about half the size of the pot (and pray for a big raise, where I could put him all in right there), because this is what a person would do if they're trying to steal a pot. If he folds, I wasn't likely to get much out of him anyway. If he calls, then I can bet a lot more on the turn once the draw develops, and not feel like I did the first time, where I actually wanted a call, as I had missed my chance to increase the pot size on the flop.

Also, another thing that troubles me is that after the preflop bet, I just checking, and it almost screams trap. An aware player is unlikely to bluff here, and definitely not much. The only justification I would've had to check on the flop in my mind, is if the BB was a maniac that'd bluff at any pot that hadn't been bet at. There, trapping him and then putting him all in on the turn would be the best thing to do. But ... this wasn't the case.

I'm still sure its mathmatically the worst beat I've had, considering the odds I had to win at the flop. But my play really left a lot to be desired here. I have to get out of the habit of checking with monster hands (especially if I preflop raise), and instead make a bet that appears like its trying to buy the pot.

That way they won't be able to see the big hand coming (make me harder to read - especially since with position, I'll often make a bet like this that really is just intended to take the pot down), and it'll be a lot more effective in getting the long shot chasers out. Kills two birds with one stone.
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