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Posted: Thu, 30 Jun 2005, 11:43pm Post subject: |
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3-of-a-Kind
Joined: 30 Jun 2005
Posts: 62
WPP: 89
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My friend told me about this deal and I quickly jumped on the wagon. I was betting $1 a hand and realized it was going to take a gazillion years for me to clear the Bonus. So I started betting $5 a hand. I got it up to around $350. I exited the room when I started losing many hands in a row. Anyway, I got it up to a $1000. Yes...$1000...it was ridiculous. Right after I hit the 1k mark, everything went downhill. Doubling down didn't work at all, the dealer would get BJs against my 20s, the dealer would get 21 after hitting 5 cards. Well...maybe it's my fault for not qutting at $1000 but honestly, I was gonna make a run for it and I came down hard. Literally, my hours of work gone in less than 10 minutes. I do admit that I don't have a strong mindset. After all, who does? Who could fold pocket Ks after someone reraises you?
Anyway, after my loss. I opened up another account......and got it up to a $400. But after I went to a different room, I started losing again. I lost my OWN $ + Bonus money.
Do you guys see a pattern here? Casino-On-Net wants you to win first and that's why they lure you in. It will get a grip on your psyche. You will just sit there mindless...clicking that button. My friend emailed Casino On Net regarding the decks and stuff. They use 4 decks and reshuffle EVERY SINGLE hand. I don't even wanna calculate the house advantage. Famous BJ players like Ken Uston, Kevin Blackwood, etc. count cards for a reason...to put odds in their hands. With Casino-On-Net, it's impossible. Hi-Lo, Hi-opt II, Uston APC, etc simply wont work. I mean...if everybody on this forum makes $$ off of Casino-On-Net....they would be out of business. Some of you guys alreayd made $...more power to you and for those of you who are considering this deal. I would say go grind it out at your local casino playing $3/6. All you need is 2 big pots.... |
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Posted: Fri, 01 Jul 2005, 10:44am Post subject: |
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Starfleet's Finest
Joined: 23 Feb 2005
Posts: 2080
WPP: 105
Location: The University of TEXAS at Austin
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The odds for blackjack are always stacked in the house's favor. That's a fact, but it's not stacked so much so that doing this Bonus is -EV. Indeed, the house edge, assuming they shuffle every hand and you play mathematically perfect blackjack, is only 50.7% or so (give or take .2%). Why is CON so awesome? Because unless you start wagering your deposit, YOU CAN'T LOSE MONEY. You might not win any money, but you can't lose it as long as you don't dip into your deposit. CON is the only place where the first dollars you wager are counted as your Bonus instead of your deposit. If you lose your Bonus, you can still withdraw your deposit.
And no offense or anything, but you could not have lost $1000 in 10 minutes placing $5 bets.
As for the game letting you win in the beginning and then making you lose, that's simply not true. I had two friends of mine who just flat out started losing, and kept losing, until their deposit was gone. Every double down on 11 turned into a 13-16, stupid stuff like that. CON does NOT "let you win" in the beginning to give you a "winning psyche" to make you try to gamble more. The odds are the odds. That's life. |
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Posted: Fri, 01 Jul 2005, 1:09pm Post subject: |
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Full House
Joined: 08 Jan 2005
Posts: 906
WPP: 92
Location: SoCal
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| straight167 wrote: | ... I do admit that I don't have a strong mindset. After all, who does? Who could fold pocket Ks after someone reraises you?
Anyway, after my loss. I opened up another account......and got it up to a $400. But after I went to a different room, I started losing again. I lost my OWN $ + Bonus money.
Do you guys see a pattern here? Casino-On-Net wants you to win first and that's why they lure you in. It will get a grip on your psyche. You will just sit there mindless...clicking that button. My friend emailed Casino On Net regarding the decks and stuff. They use 4 decks and reshuffle EVERY SINGLE hand. I don't even wanna calculate the house advantage. Famous BJ players like Ken Uston, Kevin Blackwood, etc. count cards for a reason...to put odds in their hands. With Casino-On-Net, it's impossible. Hi-Lo, Hi-opt II, Uston APC, etc simply wont work. I mean...if everybody on this forum makes $$ off of Casino-On-Net....they would be out of business. Some of you guys alreayd made $...more power to you and for those of you who are considering this deal. I would say go grind it out at your local casino playing $3/6. All you need is 2 big pots.... |
All CON needs is one guy in five without "a strong mindset". I don't know their exact business model, but casino after casino finds it profitable to offer bonuses, piss off smart players with crappy rules and reversals, and keep the folks without "a strong mindset" as paying customers.
CON is far and away the best one, being extremely patient with "advantage players" like us, offering repeated bonuses. They are not perfect, but are the best.
All that being said, please don't play the casinos, Straight167. I don't want to bash, I want to encourage you to not lose your money in casinos if you don't have a "strong mindset." Don't be the one-in-five who can't stop playing.
I have a buddy who is a little bit of a gambl00r. He has money troubles constantly. He plays smart poker, then rationalizes his poor money decisions as entertainment and bad cards, and winds up depositing more cash for entertainment and thrill rather than pulling money out. I've taken him on as a whoring protege; I'm holding his hand in a quest to build up his bankroll, with his promise that he'll do exactly as I say and not play any more hands than required, and only the game I approve at each site (ass, aren't I?.) In two weeks he has accumulated over $600 going to 5 casinos. He's excited? Yes! How long will it go on? Probably not much longer -- He left some dollars in one room to play keno. Keeeeenooooo!?! He's talking about hitting the thousand coin pot. Not good. Prediction? He won't use the bonuses to pay bills, he'll use his new knowlege to finance his old stupidities. Love him? Yeah, but the mindset is wrong.
Again, please don't play the casinos, Straight167. I don't want to bash, I want to encourage you to not lose your money in casinos if you don't have a "strong mindset." Don't choose to keep playing when the house has the advantage. |
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Posted: Fri, 01 Jul 2005, 2:16pm Post subject: |
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Full House
Joined: 08 Jan 2005
Posts: 906
WPP: 92
Location: SoCal
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Casino self-whore starter thumbnail guidelines.
Starter Guidelines Read the T&C'sat each site -- these are the rules of the whoring game -- learn what to avoid.
Play only the WR -- you may add 10% more hands if you plan to come back to the same casino someday. The math doesn't work anymore after the WR is met.
Play a game with a low House Advantage of less than 1%* (far less, if possible) -- usually BJ / Pontoon, sometimes certain Video Pokers.
Play a game with low limits to decrease volatility -- 1% or less of your Bonus per bet seems ideal, more than 2% of your Bonus+deposit per bet might make for a very volitile game. e.g. Deposit $200, get $100? If you won't die, play $1 per hand. If you choose to play for more than $6 a hand you may be tempting the fates -- the +EV is the same but don't cry if you lose your stack from volatility.
Get a correct play chart and stick to it -- low HA is measured on perfect statistical play, not on hunches.
Don't expect your withdrawn money to arrive any time soon -- keep track of where your money is. Some casinos play little games to make you provide documents, or they wait for you to ask for your money twice after reversing your withdrawl.
Be polite when contacting Customer Support -- a CS whim can affect your bottom line -- and you will have to contact customer support semi-regularly.
Remember secondary freebees -- referral bonuses, surveys, 3rd party signup gifts, comp/loyalty/club point cashouts
Follow the rules -- read the T&C's -- casinos are not run by social workers. If you break the rules of the game, they will keep your Bonus. If you break more important rules, like one signup per house, they may keep your winnings and/or deposit too. If you find an unclear rule, get a clarification in email, so you have proof. They are giving money away -- we don't have to lie and cheat -- just follow the rules.
*I've been reading elsewhere with interest of some whores trying the 2% HA games that have lower volitility -- Casino War, Pai Gow -- but I haven't tried it yet myself, but there is less EV and more frequent deposit losses. |
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Posted: Fri, 01 Jul 2005, 11:14pm Post subject: |
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3-of-a-Kind
Joined: 30 Jun 2005
Posts: 62
WPP: 89
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| ensign_lee wrote: |
And no offense or anything, but you could not have lost $1000 in 10 minutes placing $5 bets.
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if i didnt lose $1k then i wouldnt have posted on here and no i wasnt betting $5 a hand when i got up that high. |
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Posted: Sat, 02 Jul 2005, 12:34am Post subject: |
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Flush
Joined: 22 Mar 2005
Posts: 269
WPP: 59
Location: Victoria BC
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| straight167 wrote: | My friend told me about this deal and I quickly jumped on the wagon. I was betting $1 a hand and realized it was going to take a gazillion years for me to clear the Bonus. So I started betting $5 a hand. I got it up to around $350. I exited the room when I started losing many hands in a row. Anyway, I got it up to a $1000. Yes...$1000...it was ridiculous. Right after I hit the 1k mark, everything went downhill. Doubling down didn't work at all, the dealer would get BJs against my 20s, the dealer would get 21 after hitting 5 cards. Well...maybe it's my fault for not qutting at $1000 but honestly, I was gonna make a run for it and I came down hard. Literally, my hours of work gone in less than 10 minutes. I do admit that I don't have a strong mindset. After all, who does? Who could fold pocket Ks after someone reraises you?
Anyway, after my loss. I opened up another account......and got it up to a $400. But after I went to a different room, I started losing again. I lost my OWN $ + Bonus money.
Do you guys see a pattern here? [url=http://www.flopturnriver.com/Referrals/Cas-On-Net.html]Casino-On-Net[/url] wants you to win first and that's why they lure you in. It will get a grip on your psyche. You will just sit there mindless...clicking that button. My friend emailed [url=http://www.flopturnriver.com/Referrals/Cas-On-Net.html]Casino On Net[/url] regarding the decks and stuff. They use 4 decks and reshuffle EVERY SINGLE hand. I don't even wanna calculate the house advantage. Famous BJ players like Ken Uston, Kevin Blackwood, etc. count cards for a reason...to put odds in their hands. With [url=http://www.flopturnriver.com/Referrals/Cas-On-Net.html]Casino-On-Net[/url], it's impossible. Hi-Lo, Hi-opt II, Uston APC, etc simply wont work. I mean...if everybody on this forum makes $$ off of [url=http://www.flopturnriver.com/Referrals/Cas-On-Net.html]Casino-On-Net[/url]....they would be out of business. Some of you guys alreayd made $...more power to you and for those of you who are considering this deal. I would say go grind it out at your local casino playing $3/6. All you need is 2 big pots.... |
I think you have a gambling problem. Seriously.
It has "a grip on your psyche"?
That is NOT healthy. |
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Posted: Tue, 05 Jul 2005, 9:42am Post subject: |
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3-of-a-Kind
Joined: 22 Feb 2005
Posts: 73
WPP: 71
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I cleared Del Rio last week, took 8 days and email of ID to get paid. $125.00 profit just landed in my neteller account. Thanks for the tip eeeee.  |
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Posted: Wed, 06 Jul 2005, 3:41pm Post subject: |
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Full House
Joined: 08 Jan 2005
Posts: 906
WPP: 92
Location: SoCal
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| Pizzaman wrote: | | I cleared ------ last week, took 8 days and email of ID to get paid. $125.00 profit just landed in my neteller account. Thanks for the tip eeeee. | Do it in POUNDS! And not so loud, it is a blacklisted casino. 
I love my casino whoring buddies. I think fondly of my first experience at Casino On Net. Anyone want to PM me with a new BJ casino?
Eurobet's Poker $25 Bonus code for July is "JULY25"
Eurobet's Casino $25 Bonus code for July is"STAND" for USD users.
No minimum deposit, just move it around.
I JUST finished Omni. dep 335/ Bonus 100 / 2500 wr, slow W/D due to PIN, no risk -- lose Bonus first? - w/d deposit! The lowest House Advantage (HA) there is Pontoon -- you can google for "pontoon" "wizardofodds" and find the play card. Peak comp points are slow to track your wagering, so keep track yourself, but cash out your player points prior to cash out - about $5 or $6. They have a ReferAFriend deal there too, which can't hurt. I only cleared $49 of the Bonus, but it is $49 I didn't have yesterday. |
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Posted: Sat, 16 Jul 2005, 12:17am Post subject: |
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3-of-a-Kind
Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Posts: 105
WPP: 76
Location: Escondido, CA
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| +342 on CON, assuming everything gets back to me nicely that is a significant increase to the BR. Hooray. |
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Posted: Sat, 16 Jul 2005, 4:29pm Post subject: |
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Full House
Joined: 08 Jan 2005
Posts: 906
WPP: 92
Location: SoCal
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I am loving the bottom line on casino whoring, and I'm so excited, I want to tell the world, but.....
| FTR Index wrote: | | In total there are 32 users online :: 6 Registered, 0 Hidden and 26 Guests | there are 4 lurkers for every member. Look at how many viewings there have been of this thread.....
| FTR Online Poker Rooms wrote: | Whoring tips!
Goto page: 1 ... 4, 5, 6 replies=288, Views= 8206
| The big whoring forum (not FTR) dropped their casino site because they basically wiped out Bonus after Bonus. What is left of the casino whoring over there is either in musketeers, or, if posted publicly, they still overwhelm casinos with whores within 2 weeks or less, somtimes, after whoring info is posted. And their site gets a ton of traffic that is just lurker traffic -- no contribution, just taking. FTR is getting bigger. I don't want to kill the goose that lays the golden eggs with a new army of BJ-converted poker whores.
Is there any way we could be more discreet about this? I was thinking about setting up some sort of whore email system or a swapped tip system, or something. And I don't want to be snobby about this, because the information is out there for anyone to find -- the power is in doing a little research work for one's self, then pooling info with other community members. If I'm out of line, please set me straight. |
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Posted: Mon, 18 Jul 2005, 11:55am Post subject: |
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3-of-a-Kind
Joined: 18 Jan 2005
Posts: 51
WPP: 76
Location: 1/2 baby
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| This C-O-N looks great, wish I woulda seen it sooner. Question though - do I sit at the public or private blackjack tables? Sorry I've searched around this thread and cannot find the answer. Thanks much to those of you working hard for bonuses that are sharing info with us! |
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Posted: Tue, 19 Jul 2005, 11:09am Post subject: |
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Full House
Joined: 08 Jan 2005
Posts: 906
WPP: 92
Location: SoCal
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| rhino wrote: | | This [url=http://www.flopturnriver.com/Referrals/Cas-On-Net.html]C-O-N[/url] looks great, wish I woulda seen it sooner. Question though - do I sit at the public or private blackjack tables? Sorry I've searched around this thread and cannot find the answer. Thanks much to those of you working hard for bonuses that are sharing info with us! | Public tables are for chatting. Private tables are for the business-like completion of your whoring duties.  |
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Posted: Wed, 20 Jul 2005, 9:04am Post subject: |
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Flush
Joined: 06 May 2005
Posts: 571
WPP: 65
Location: Sweden
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Hmm, anyone know the wagering requirements for PlanetLuck? I thought it was 8x. Maybe I have counted it wrong... 
EDIT: Nevermind. They had some automated answer, it's 8x but it takes 24h for the system to let me cash out. I managed to keep my 100$ Bonus intact, very nice! Thanks for all the tips guys. |
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Posted: Wed, 20 Jul 2005, 12:13pm Post subject: |
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High Card
Joined: 20 Jul 2005
Posts: 2
WPP: 24
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Posted: Wed, 20 Jul 2005, 12:26pm Post subject: |
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Flush
Joined: 06 May 2005
Posts: 571
WPP: 65
Location: Sweden
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I love this.
Starluck +125$
PlanetLuck +100$
Bet365 +370$ (!!!)
Concidering my poker bankroll is around 500$, this is the shit.
Let's just hope no casino refuses to pay b/c of whoring or something =/ Got my payout from Starluck already however. |
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Posted: Sat, 30 Jul 2005, 2:15pm Post subject: |
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Full House
Joined: 08 Jan 2005
Posts: 906
WPP: 92
Location: SoCal
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| Pizzaman wrote: | | Has anybody here tries the Aceclub? It appears that it is owned by the same company as Starluck and Planet luck, and uses the same software. But the Wagering requirements are 30x, instead of 8 times. Just wondering if anyone here has done it and whether you had any luck with the steep WR. |
Aceclub g00t.
It is Empire's Aceclub, compared to PP's PlanetLuck+Starluck.
Higher wr had me spooked, but the math is still good, and it is nothing compared to many other casinos. Do the $500/$150/WR4500 for new signups -- the math is better -- Expected Value is over $120. Plus they have IGMpay Bonus of 20% UPTO $200! WR of 3600 on BJ is a very resonable risk for $200 (EV is even better than the signup Bonus.)
PM me for other details if you like. |
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Posted: Sat, 30 Jul 2005, 2:34pm Post subject: |
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3-of-a-Kind
Joined: 22 Feb 2005
Posts: 73
WPP: 71
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| I busted out on ace club. About halfway through the WR, got on a coldstreak, I think essentially its goot, but didn't work for me. |
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Posted: Mon, 01 Aug 2005, 3:39am Post subject: |
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Full House
Joined: 08 Jan 2005
Posts: 906
WPP: 92
Location: SoCal
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Eurobet August 2005 Bonus codes
Casino = USD = 'YELLOW' GBP='PINK' 10x$25
Poker = The August Bonus code is 'AUG25' 12x$25
edit 8/2 -- my bad -- Poker = The August Bonus code is 'AUG25' 15x$25 |
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Posted: Tue, 02 Aug 2005, 3:50pm Post subject: |
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Flush
Joined: 22 Nov 2004
Posts: 504
WPP: 88
Location: Wild Bill's Backyard
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| eeeee wrote: | Eurobet August 2005 Bonus codes
Casino = USD = 'YELLOW' GBP='PINK' 10x$25
Poker = The August Bonus code is 'AUG25' 12x$25 |
Wasn't the poker req.'s 10X25 last month? Did it go up? |
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Posted: Tue, 02 Aug 2005, 4:48pm Post subject: |
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Full House
Joined: 08 Jan 2005
Posts: 906
WPP: 92
Location: SoCal
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| Gatlin Dan wrote: | | eeeee wrote: | Eurobet August 2005 Bonus codes
Casino = USD = 'YELLOW' GBP='PINK' 10x$25
Poker = The August | | | | | |
