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Posted: Sat, 30 Dec 2006, 8:04pm Post subject: When to leave a table up a few buy-ins
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 18 Oct 2006
Posts: 1623
WPP: 101
Location: San Francisco, CA
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If you are up 3-5 buy-ins how is your table image affected?
My stats today:
During current Hold'em session you were dealt 398 hands and saw flop:
- 42 out of 74 times while in big blind (56%)
- 41 out of 74 times while in small blind (55%)
- 74 out of 250 times in other positions (29%)
- a total of 157 out of 398 (39%)
Pots won at showdown - 25 of 47 (53%)
Pots won without showdown - 59
Not many pre-flop raises except with high cards, otherwise mostly limps, but some sc and pair raises for variety (maybe 1 out of 10)
Up a lil over 4 buy-ins at 50NL.
with my kind of table image (lots of flops, aggression) is it:
1) Easier to get paid off in general because people think they are being muscled, or do you get folds because people fear you?
2) Easier to steal, or is this more obvious to people?
also, do you:
1) Leave while ahead and protect you profit?
2) Stay because you are playing well? |
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Posted: Sat, 30 Dec 2006, 8:52pm Post subject: Re: When to leave a table up a few buy-ins
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{NSFW - nipple}
Joined: 11 Jun 2005
Posts: 2186
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Location: The Loser's Lounge
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| mixchange wrote: | also, do you:
1) Leave while ahead and protect you profit? |
This logic is good at the craps tables, not poker tables. |
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Posted: Sun, 31 Dec 2006, 12:19am Post subject:
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3-of-a-Kind
Joined: 16 Oct 2006
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Location: Kentucky
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I love playing big stacked. However, only if the table is a good one. As soon as the table gets bad I leave. I once had 427$ on a 50nl table with the table holding a total of 1,700$. Everybody was playing so tight, besides this one guy who dropped near 2k  |
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Posted: Sun, 31 Dec 2006, 7:35am Post subject:
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3-of-a-Kind
Joined: 15 Sep 2006
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WPP: 60
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I like playing big stack. However, it includes some risk because if you get something like AA, people are more likely to play pocket pairs and suited connectors against you because of the implied odds. But on the other side, they are afraid of you, because every hand might mean ending up all in (especially when I play big stacked). I like to play big stack because of intimidation factor and it makes me feel good about myself.
And why would you quite when you are running good? This is a mistake. |
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Posted: Sun, 31 Dec 2006, 1:25pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 04 Mar 2005
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| there's no sense in being worried about your big stack if most others are normal stacked. to have a rule to just leave when you are up 5 buy-ins is silly. there's just no reason to unless there's a bunch of other deep stacked players that are good. |
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Posted: Sun, 31 Dec 2006, 3:09pm Post subject:
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Flush
Joined: 21 Jun 2005
Posts: 558
WPP: 102
Location: Bangor UK
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| DonkDonk wrote: | | I love playing big stacked. However, only if the table is a good one. As soon as the table gets bad I leave. I once had 427$ on a 50nl table with the table holding a total of 1,700$. Everybody was playing so tight, besides this one guy who dropped near 2k |
Sorry he dropped $2,000 in one session, at one table, at $50NL? 
I'd call shennagans, but its the end of the year and i'm feeling trustworthy. |
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Posted: Sun, 31 Dec 2006, 3:51pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 18 Oct 2006
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Location: San Francisco, CA
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| martindcx1e wrote: | | there's no sense in being worried about your big stack if most others are normal stacked. to have a rule to just leave when you are up 5 buy-ins is silly. there's just no reason to unless there's a bunch of other deep stacked players that are good. |
Sorry, I forgot to mention often there are others at the table who have doubled up, so I could potentially lose $100 on a hand, where I could lose only $50 if I moved to a new table. Sure I could win $100, but if I wanted to play for $100 stacks I would go to 100NL... I didn't leave the table, but considered it.
how do you think the big stack affects table image? |
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Posted: Mon, 01 Jan 2007, 4:23am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 04 Mar 2005
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| mixchange wrote: |
how do you think the big stack affects table image? |
if ppl have seen how you've achieved your deep stack then your image will be made up of what they've seen. when i'm new to a table and see someone with 200bb's it doesn't change their image in my mind. if they have 300bb's then i'll assume they're decent until proven otherwise. that still doesn't tell me whether they are loose or tight though. |
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Posted: Mon, 01 Jan 2007, 10:05am Post subject:
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Flush
Joined: 29 Apr 2006
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WPP: 159
Location: Sweden
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| mixchange wrote: | | Sorry, I forgot to mention often there are others at the table who have doubled up, so I could potentially lose $100 on a hand, where I could lose only $50 if I moved to a new table. Sure I could win $100, but if I wanted to play for $100 stacks I would go to 100NL... I didn't leave the table, but considered it. |
If you aren't comfortable to play with that amount, then don't. It adds to the variance too. I usually stay unless a good player with position on me has the same amount of money. |
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Posted: Mon, 01 Jan 2007, 10:41am Post subject:
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3-of-a-Kind
Joined: 15 Sep 2006
Posts: 100
WPP: 60
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| Sorry, guys, I forgot to mention it is only dangerous being big stacked if some other people have more buy ins at the table too. Otherwise, it is just good intimidation factor. Nothing to worry about. |
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Posted: Mon, 01 Jan 2007, 1:34pm Post subject: Re: When to leave a table up a few buy-ins
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Straight Flush
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Posts: 4209
WPP: 150
Location: St. Louis, MO
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| Galapogos wrote: | | mixchange wrote: | also, do you:
1) Leave while ahead and protect you profit? |
This logic is good at the craps tables, not poker tables. |
agreed. however, i do notice my action drops off when i have an overwhelming stack. beware of the action when you accumulate chips. and by that i simply mean...pay attention to it. dont give up on the table just because you have a lot of chips...you may be at a great table, in good position for that table, etc. you may even have the "LUCKY SEAT," as we all know poker is rigged! 
if you are at a great table, DONT LEAVE for any reason. well, maybe the birth of a child.  |
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Posted: Mon, 01 Jan 2007, 1:40pm Post subject:
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{NSFW - nipple}
Joined: 11 Jun 2005
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| mixchange wrote: | | martindcx1e wrote: | | there's no sense in being worried about your big stack if most others are normal stacked. to have a rule to just leave when you are up 5 buy-ins is silly. there's just no reason to unless there's a bunch of other deep stacked players that are good. |
Sorry, I forgot to mention often there are others at the table who have doubled up, so I could potentially lose $100 on a hand, where I could lose only $50 if I moved to a new table. Sure I could win $100, but if I wanted to play for $100 stacks I would go to 100NL... I didn't leave the table, but considered it.
how do you think the big stack affects table image? |
Only leave if you think those other big stacks are better than you. If not, then you should stay since you're much more likely to take their money if you're better.
I think the big stack makes players less likely to fuck with you if they're fairly new to the table and don't know what to think of you yet. So you can get away with stealing a few more pots. |
Last edited by Galapogos on Mon, 01 Jan 2007, 1:52pm; edited 1 time in total
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Posted: Mon, 01 Jan 2007, 1:50pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Posts: 4209
WPP: 150
Location: St. Louis, MO
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you're at a 50 NL table? no offense, but sounds like somebody is suffereing from FPS.
FPS = Fancy Play Syndrome |
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