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Posted: Sun, 30 Sep 2007, 12:00am Post subject: When do complete moron fish stop showing up? |
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4-of-a-Kind
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| At what stakes (on FTP/stars) do you stop seeing complete morons (those who donk off 100bb's with TP/weak draws/etc.) on a regular basis? I remember seeing them quite regularly at $100nl right at the end of the pre-frist era. When do they go missing these days? |
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Posted: Sun, 30 Sep 2007, 2:04am Post subject: |
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Full House
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Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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| man I don't know. I've seen morons at every limit i've sat down at, up to 600nl... hence the important of table selection. |
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Posted: Sun, 30 Sep 2007, 3:39am Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 13 Oct 2005
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Location: ontario
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Posted: Sun, 30 Sep 2007, 8:35am Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
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| so you see them like every session even all the way up to 1000nl? |
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Posted: Sun, 30 Sep 2007, 8:59am Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
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I've found personally on iPoker that the amount of total morons halves as you move up, so at 10NL 60%, 20NL 30%, 50NL 15%, etc..
Though the problem is by the time you've got to 100NL the moron fish often buy in for the minimum anyway. |
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Posted: Sun, 30 Sep 2007, 12:14pm Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
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| martindcx1e wrote: | | so you see them like every session even all the way up to 1000nl? |
Every session if you multi table for a few hours, sure. Obviously they become more seldom as the limits increase. |
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Posted: Sun, 30 Sep 2007, 2:27pm Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
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i see a big drop off at 25NL, but they are there. there just arent 2-3 on every 6max table like at 10NL.
i'm sure the higher you go, the harder they are to find. networks prolly make a difference, too. stars is definitely tighter than it used to be BF (before frist). |
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Posted: Sun, 30 Sep 2007, 2:32pm Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
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| BankItDrew wrote: | | martindcx1e wrote: | | so you see them like every session even all the way up to 1000nl? |
Every session if you multi table for a few hours, sure. Obviously they become more seldom as the limits increase. |
wow well that's good to hear.
| Chopper wrote: | | i see a big drop off at 25NL |
lol chopper ppl stack off like every 5 secs with TP at 25nl. |
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Posted: Sun, 30 Sep 2007, 4:58pm Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
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dude, how would you know, youve been at the 10's for how long now?
j/k |
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Posted: Sun, 30 Sep 2007, 8:49pm Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
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| Chopper wrote: | dude, how would you know, youve been at the 10's for how long now?
j/k |
I HAD TO MOVE BACK DOWN CUZ THE STUPID MORON FISH WERE STACKING OFF EVERY 5 SECONDS WITH DRAWS THAT HIT ME FOR 9 BUYINS IN A ROW AHHHHHHHHHH! |
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Posted: Sun, 30 Sep 2007, 9:32pm Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
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$200 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, September 28, 23:30:20 ET 2007
Table Table 130447 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: ICAMEFORYOU ( $275.37 USD )
Seat 2: eointhebon ( $740.60 USD )
Seat 4: fhqwhgadss ( $293.20 USD )
Seat 3: Trainer_jyms ( $200 USD )
Seat 5: TimTingley ( $218.35 USD )
Seat 6: WiggleThb ( $140.60 USD )
TimTingley posts small blind [$1 USD].
WiggleThb posts big blind [$2 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Trainer_jyms [ Ah Qh ]
ICAMEFORYOU calls [$2 USD]
eointhebon folds.
Trainer_jyms raises [$10 USD]
fhqwhgadss raises [$34 USD]
TimTingley folds.
WiggleThb folds.
ICAMEFORYOU folds.
Trainer_jyms calls [$24 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ad, 8h, 3h ]
Trainer_jyms bets [$59 USD]
fhqwhgadss raises [$247 USD]
Trainer_jyms is all-In.
** Dealing Turn ** [ Qs ]
** Dealing River ** [ Ac ]
fhqwhgadss shows [ As, 9s ]three of a kind, Aces.
Trainer_jyms shows [ Ah, Qh ]a full house, Aces full of Queens.
fhqwhgadss wins $81 USD from side pot #1 with three of a kind, Aces.
Trainer_jyms wins $402 USD from the main pot with a full house, Aces full of Queens.
Still here!!! |
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Posted: Sun, 30 Sep 2007, 9:56pm Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
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| lol thx trainer good to see |
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Posted: Mon, 01 Oct 2007, 5:54am Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
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| martindcx1e wrote: | | Chopper wrote: | dude, how would you know, youve been at the 10's for how long now?
j/k |
I HAD TO MOVE BACK DOWN CUZ THE STUPID MORON FISH WERE STACKING OFF EVERY 5 SECONDS WITH DRAWS THAT HIT ME FOR 9 BUYINS IN A ROW AHHHHHHHHHH! |
no offense, i know we have our differences, but could it be that those arent all bad beats? couldnt you have made money elsewhere in your sessions to cover those beats?
you had to move back down because.....(insert another excuse here)... |
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Posted: Mon, 01 Oct 2007, 7:01am Post subject: |
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Full House
Joined: 20 Jul 2005
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Location: KC, MO
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1ooNL last night. I raised JJ MP to $4, 2 callers, BB raises to $20, I call, SB calls. $64 to the flop = 942. SB open pushes $70, BB pushes over, I fold.
SB shows up with JT, BB shows KK. Here's the funny part, wait for it, wait for it:
The turn comes K
The river comes Q.
The fish hits rnr-rnr str8 for $200BB. He later claimed he was trying to push us off our hands, LOL. J-high trying to push a 3bettor & an original raiser that called a 3bet off there hands on an all under card flop. GMAFB. Fish morons are alive and well at 100NL. |
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Posted: Mon, 01 Oct 2007, 9:51pm Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
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| Chopper wrote: |
no offense, i know we have our differences, but could it be that those arent all bad beats? couldnt you have made money elsewhere in your sessions to cover those beats?
you had to move back down because.....(insert another excuse here)... |
lol nice try chopper. i know what is and isn't a bad beat. i also know what situations are unavoidable (like losing 50bb's to a 1/2 stack when they flop a set vs. your AA overpair). when those things happen a bunch of times in a row that is called a downswing. i had a downswing as soon as i moved up. i played well during the downswing. i didn't start chasing and i didn't start getting scared and passive and i didn't turn into an aggro-spew monster. it happened and i accepted it and moved back down to buff the roll back up. |
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Posted: Mon, 01 Oct 2007, 10:11pm Post subject: |
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Flush
Joined: 05 May 2005
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WPP: 250
Location: Australia
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If this hand is any indication, as long as I sit down at a table there is at least one moron fish looking to get stacked 
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
saw flop|saw showdown
MP1 ($35)
MP2 ($59.20)
MP3 ($11.25)
CO ($82.15)
Button ($34.20)
Hero ($50.25)
BB ($49.75)
UTG ($50)
UTG+1 ($157.20)
Preflop: Hero is SB with K , J.
6 folds, Hero raises to $1.75, BB calls $1.
Flop: ($3.25) 9, 4, T (3 players)
Hero bets $2.5, BB raises to $6, Hero calls $3.50.
Turn: ($15.25) 6 (3 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $5.5, Hero raises to $16, BB raises to $32, Hero raises to $58.75 (All-In), BB calls $15.75 (All-In).
River: ($110.75) 3 (3 players, 2 all-in)
Final Pot: $110.75
Results in white below:
Hero has Ks Js (flush, king high).
BB has As Ts (flush, ace high).
Outcome: BB wins $110.75. |
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Posted: Mon, 01 Oct 2007, 11:39pm Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
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I think villain played the hand fine, don't you?
I prefer raising again on the flop, btw. |
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Posted: Mon, 01 Oct 2007, 11:46pm Post subject: |
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Flush
Joined: 05 May 2005
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Location: Australia
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Yep, he most certainly did....was refering to myself in the first line though  |
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Posted: Tue, 02 Oct 2007, 8:28am Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
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| lol i got your joke knyte |
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Posted: Tue, 02 Oct 2007, 11:55am Post subject: |
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Posted: Wed, 03 Oct 2007, 10:11am Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
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Still there
$100 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, October 03, 00:57:23 ET 2007
Table Table 131543 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 4: GuruGeorge ( $125.38 USD )
Seat 5: alptdpt ( $28.62 USD )
Seat 3: Trainer_jyms ( $98.50 USD )
Seat 1: Tourist3000 ( $101.01 USD )
Seat 2: Ritschii ( $51.40 USD )
Seat 6: booby_miles ( $82.73 USD )
GuruGeorge posts small blind [$0.50 USD].
alptdpt posts big blind [$1 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Trainer_jyms [ Qs Qc ]
booby_miles folds.
Tourist3000 folds.
Ritschii raises [$4 USD]
Trainer_jyms raises [$14.50 USD]
GuruGeorge folds.
alptdpt folds.
Ritschii calls [$10.50 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4d, Js, 7d ]
Ritschii checks.
Trainer_jyms bets [$24.50 USD]
Ritschii is all-In.
Trainer_jyms calls [$12.40 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6c ]
** Dealing River ** [ Kc ]
Trainer_jyms shows [ Qs, Qc ]a pair of Queens.
Ritschii shows [ Kd, Jd ]two pairs, Kings and Jacks.
Ritschii wins $101.30 USD from the main pot with two pairs, Kings and Jacks.
just not sure who it was this time. |
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Posted: Wed, 03 Oct 2007, 11:48am Post subject: |
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Straight Flush
Joined: 21 Jun 2005
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| i play at 5/10nl. Fish at every stakes baby! |
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Posted: Wed, 03 Oct 2007, 1:32pm Post subject: |
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Flush
Joined: 30 Mar 2005
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Location: Showin' mah Pokemans
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| Miffed22001 wrote: | | i play at 5/10nl. Fish at every stakes baby! |
I thought you were running like shit. Things got better? |
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Posted: Wed, 03 Oct 2007, 2:42pm Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 22 Nov 2005
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| Never dude. Think Andy Beal. |
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