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lynch bigspenda

he'll be recruited anyways making him a liability. For a day 1 lynch, the only way we could do better is the alpha wolf.

pennywise is such a classic level 1 thinker. i like stax's argument that the smart play is for the alpha to recruit a bunch of vets, and it makes sense. however, i think doing the exact opposite has a ton of merit. especially after playing out the first few days of zombie WW like we did, the alpha can recruit an army of noobs while we out think/out level ourselves and string up all the vets.

they could, but after 3 or 4 days, they'll probably regret having noobs vrs wiley vets like spenda.

...and JKDS falls right on the bottom of the "vet" category. He's basically the shittiest vet there is...c'mon boys. String his ass up.

im glad i have vet status now, ive worked hard for it.

but lets be real. the last 4 werewolves (other than that last one) i've been a crazy psychopath going about saying LYNCH HIM FOR X,Y,Z and causing lots of ruckus as well as being the top priority lynch for everyone. Sure, I nailed the alpha last game...but the other vets can do that too and ARENT on everyones lynch list. Add to this fact that boog has a hard on for me that usually gets pretty close to succeeding and i think its pretty clear that id be a terrible, terrible choice when we have ppl like warpe who can still wtf pwn the wolves, is still epic at ww, and is much more low profile. ( i dont advocate lynching warpe, but he logically fits better into any lynch the vet arguement)

last thing, aside from what ppl think, i dont see the harm in having a bunch of vets around. Its nice to be able to have somone like warpe go and say OMG SPENDA ARE WOLF because these ppl have played with each other enough to notice this.

made a typo Razz

also i like lynching anyone that doesnt stand out to much and ppl dont generally want to lycnh early. stacks still fits this bill because i dont think ppl would expect him to be recruited again. also, i like keith, instant aces, pellion, and a number of other sane quietish ppl that dont go all JKDS and cause riots.

Meh.. An alpha recruiting vets works both ways... Sure it gets a vet on his side, and away from the side of the village. However, I think it would be a little foolish to recruit the most prolific vets. The ones that are always on a lynch radar, at least this early. Mainly for the fact that it's so level 1 to recruit them, and they are likely to have suspicion cast upon them for this reason. And it really doesn't hurt to let them stay in for the first few days, because there isn't enough information to deduce and make correct assumptions off of.

I would think a better alpha strat for the first few days would to go after mid-high level players. Players like Bode, Kingnat, BooG come to mind. Just a fwiw, Kingnat would be a pretty awesome recruit imo. He's an intelligent player, and he has like never been on anyways radar as far as I know.

At the previous run we had the same discussion about the alpha wolf probably targeting veterans of the game, however the first two lynches had nothing to do with this logic
We lynched SDM for being SDM, and we lynched Spenda for being silent

I think that the wolf is most likely not to recruit a noob as the first recruit, so we should avoid the temptation of lynching one at day 1

hrm, i agree with stax

lynch da kingnat

hard to get any more low profile / regish than that

Recind Spenda

Missed this due to sleeping all day like a POS. Sad

Stax's idea of lynching kingnat is as good as any other.

lynch kingnat

i agree with a noob being targeted.

lynch KiwiMArk

well , technically we could argue that there are no noobs in this WW. Whilst its been pointed out that vets would be good candidates , noobs could just as easily be a good target for recruitment. In the halloween one , Kiwimark hardly said anything so could quite easily just sit back and still hardly say anything while the village take out the "best" players to prevent them getting recruited. Alpha needs numbers at the start,so why risk going for someone who could get lynched. Last game the noobs hardly got a mention .
Therefore I agree with Wilbur , lynch Kiwimark

I genuinely think Stax's reasoning holds more water. The alpha wolf has to figure that we could level ourselves into lynching just about anyone (as we've seen, there's been a post of "he'd recruit a high person!", "no wait, he wants us to think that, he'd recruit a med person!" and finally "aha, it's all a level, he'll recruit a noob!") deciding on which 'level' we decide to arbitrarily go with.
Given that, it makes more sense to try and get somebody who would be an asset to the wolves, ie. somebody with more experience.

Keith pointed out I didn't post much in the last game, which is fair, however I'd point out that Keith seems to normally be quite active, and yet this time has only shown up and jumped on a freshly-forming bandwagon after JKDS listed his name as a potential target.

That said, there've been a bunch of people who haven't dropped in at all yet, and I'm happy to get on a kingnat lynchwagon.

lynch kingnat

If I understand the rules right, in three hours someone will get lynched regardless. I'm going to sleep now and won't be on for about nine hours, so once again I'd like to stress my innocence and say we lynch a sensible target (ie. somebody who would make a useful wolf, rather than a debatably inconspicuous but useless one) so we have a chance against the recruiting alpha.

kingnat is busy saving equality

even though i'm on that list stax, i like the argument for kingnat. he has been completely under the radar and would be a perfect zombie recruit.

lynch kingnat

Too many chiefs, not enough indians.

I wanted to lynch SDM again because it would be funny. Since Kingnat is all Butt-hurt from losing the vote yesterday, I'll spare him a noose around his neck...

lynch kiwiMark

kingnat vs kiwim

kingnat seems more like first recruit than kiwi
for alpha they would be equal

lynch kingnat

Did kingnat want the gays to get married, or not?

Depending on the answer, BigRed and Rilla might come in sealing his fate.

Lynch Kingnat

The question was... DID YOU WANT THE GAYS TO MARRY OR NOT?

Also, I'm not changing my vote.. You iz so wolfy.

Current vote counts (13 needed to lynch):

kingnat - 7 (JKDS, dranger7070, kiwiMark, bode, GatorJH, flomo, XxStacksxX)
kiwiMark - 4 (WillburForce, Keith_MM, ChrisBCritter, kingnat)
JKDS - 2 (BooG690, Penneywize)
bigspenda73 - 1 (XxStacksxX, a500lbgorilla)
GatorJH - 1 (bigred)
Penneywize - 1 (Warpe)
DoanDiggy - 0 (BooG690)

I guess kingnat seems like a solid choice, but I don't really like it, especially considering that no WW pros have voted for him yet. I'm going to hold off a little while longer.

And we have 48 hour days? I ask because kiwiMark mentioned that we might be running out of time (12 hour day? WTF?) when it's only been 14 hours.

I'm fairly certain 48 hour days are the standard now.

we're basically all villagers right now. If were going to kill someone, lets make it someone we'd hate to see turned into a wolf.

lynch bigspenda

That's 2! only 11 more to go!

^^ Obviously missed the joke when 'rilla did that last game.

I hate to agree with Stacks, but I was thinking the exact same thing after reading rilla's post.

i can be persuaded to lynch the doan diggity.

While that's pretty obvious BooG, I think with the n00b wolf errors I made early in the last game, the "deception" of taking me would be outweighed by the problems my wolf inexperience could possibly cause. I mean JKDS basically soulread me last game and I only had like 6 mosts. Him seeking me wasn't random, as I'm not that prolific (<<< My word of the week fwiw) of a player.

I mean, it's solid logic, but I believe an alpha would more than likely take an individual that would be a good wolf, over me, when it's also pretty level 1 to think I would be not suspicious.

Hi

Lots of colourful voting going on...!

Kingnat seems like an OK choice and I won't intentionally derail him. The only argument I can think that goes against lynching him is that he gave himself up pretty easy the last time he was a wolf (I think in a game earlier this summer if I recall correctly). So he would not be / isn't a dangerous adversary.

I still like the plan of lynching a vet, which oddly puts me on the same side as 'rilla, even if he is one of the targets of this strategy

Can we not lynch a vet guys. Give it some thought

I am equally up for bode, spenda, warpe, 'rilla, jkds, and whoever else we think qualifies as a vet these days

I'll rescind JKDS for now.

you guys should def lynch me. I'm dangerous! But, i'm not a dangerous dbag like spenda. So he's first.

I'm sticking with Penneywise b/c he seems awfully eager to get the players with good wolfdar lynched in a hurry.

There is no 48 hr rule, suck it up and lynch

Meh.. I mean truthfully this whole logic can be bounced around for days, and spun in many different directions. Using Rilla's logic, taking out vets that are likely to (1) be recruited early more than the n00bs, and (2) be dangerous adversaries when they are inevitably recruited, is a good strategy for the village. The drawback is that we lose some of the better villagers, the ones that are likely to soulread, and point the inexperienced villagers in the right directions. However, the vets will at some point be recruited, and they already have loads of influence over the villagers, that they will then be able to point them in the wrong direction with ease.

It's kind of a toss-up between whether the village should take out the individuals who will be very dangerous adversaries (the vets), limiting the WW's recruiting pool to mid-low level players? Or do we keep them in hoping they haven't been recruited so they can figure things out?

Personally, I don't know which should take precedence.

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