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Pelion
Post Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 8:50am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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hmmm i see what you mean. Usually when the village recommends someone it happens though. Im going to differ to the pillers of the community (rilla/warpe) before I make my decision.
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i been busy all weekend so haven't looked at WW.

I've only managed a quick flick through - so could someone sccinctly tell me why Stacks is Alpha?

I'll give my vote when needed.
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Post Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 8:58am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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JKDS is claiming to be the seer; he says that Stacks is a zombie (50/50 the alpha obviously). However, this means that JKDS and the vig (if either is targeted both become zombies) are exposed tonight since we don't currently have a medium. It's almost good strategy for us to lynch a villager today, BUT if we can manage to lynch a non-Stacks zombie and have the vig shoot Stacks, then we win the game.

So we need to lynch someone who is not Stacks and we shouldn't feel too bad if we get a villager, but best case is that we manage to get the other zombie and win the game.
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Post Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 9:08am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Oh, and JKDS: saying who the confirmed villager is (unless it's a special role?) can only be a good thing so that the medium can protect him and we can retain valuable information. I misunderstood before and thought you had confirmed spenda as a villager, but I think you actually meant that he is highly likely to be a villager because of Stacks' behavior.

After a successful conversion, no villager is safely confirmed without the medium's protection.
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Post Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 9:16am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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OK, rescind spenda for now and Imma gonna look at stuff later to see if I can pick up anything but the new job is keeping me pretty busy so if a bandwagon forms I will just jump right on.
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Post Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 9:32am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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5:57 PM on Day 1

XxStacksxX wrote:
I really have nothing new to add.

I'm not sure on the whole seer/vig outing themselves for a sacrifice idea. I see the merits to it, and could be persuaded either way at this time though.

I'm in concurrence that the zombie would probably not recruit a noob.. It makes sense that the alpha would want more experienced players. However, as it has been pointed out recruiting the most experienced players is somewhat level 0, and I can see an alpha going for mid-level players as well. It's not much, but I think our list can be narrowed down a bit.



6:00 on Day 1

dranger7070 wrote:
Man, I actually thought I was going to last a while in this game, since I'm probably one of the worst WW players ever. Sad I'm like perma stuck on level -1. I really, really doubt the Alpha would recruit me until way later in the game since then it wouldn't be a big deal if I messed up. Namean? Right now its just way too early and I would more than likely end up outing myself or the other zombies.


Could this be a level?

I know its not much, but.......... lynch dranger
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I like your thinking here, and I did say on day 1 that I thought dranger would be a reasonable choice. Remember, though, that we're not sure that Stacks is actually the alpha, there is just a 50/50 shot. He could be the recruited zombie.
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nice round up DD.

I'll be online later (good few hours) and ready for a bandwagon.
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I just realized another important point. There is a (somewhat small) chance that JKDS is not the seer and is actually a zombie trying to out the seer. THE REAL SEER SHOULD NOT OUT HIMSELF. The vig knows who the seer is, therefore if JKDS is the seer, the vig can trust him and can shoot Stacks. If JKDS is not the seer, the vig can shoot JKDS. EZ game Smile
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Post Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 10:28am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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If we get the alpha zombie does that mean that the remaining zombies can then kill villagers or do they just have to hide and avoid detection?
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Post Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 10:47am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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stacks wrote
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The vig is getting a bullet tonight. The least you can do is kill Spenda off via a lynch, letting him receive his lumps for ignoring the game (whether intentional or not). If he comes back as a villager, a villager we will not miss mind you, then shoot me. It's a much more reasonable way to die than to be lynched when useless baggage is hanging around.


Is stacks hinting here that he is the Vig. Fine , lets go with his plan of letting the Vig shoot him as obviously he isn't going to shoot himself.

JKDS wrote
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I AM THE BATMAN

stax is a zombie.

we should shoot stax, and lynch ANYONE that voted for spenda. i particularly like keith and warpe. If the guy we pick is a villager, {acronym Renton hates} protect me. If wolf, we win gg.


If stacks is hinting at being the vig , then the seer knows that stacks is the VIG. Therefore one of the two of them is lying.Obvious answer is to lynch JKDS and shoot stacks . Then if stacks is a wolf we get an angel of death and if stacks is vig we get a wolf but probably not the alpha and if JKDS is the seer we get the angel of death.

why target me and warpe.? Getting rid of warpe would be obvious for a wolf .I posted couple of strategies that would help the village and fool the wolves ? After the last WW who was the least likely person that SDM would protect and therefore a "safe" target for wolves to go after. If SDM did protect me and the wolves used this logic and ran into a protected person it was superb work by SDM .

rescind Spenda

lynch JKDS
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Post Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 10:52am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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lynch keith m
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Post Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 11:08am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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flomo wrote:
lynch keith m
good way to get a medium, but downside of my previous post is that if JKDS is the seer then stacks doesnt get shot tonight. but if stacks is the angel , can he only protect himself against zombies or does it protect from bullet as well.
but if he's the angel he might just as well out himself and protect himself
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In past WWs, the angel has been able to protect a player from the vigilante.
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Post Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 11:23am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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wow, um. WTF?

JKDS claims to be BATMAN? To me that post looks like TOTAL sarcasm?! Can you clarify JKDS? Are you outing yourself as the seer or just adding fuel to a fire? Or are you pulling a HuntingSalmon?

I'll recind Spenda, I'm too confused for the moment to cast a vote, maybe after work.

Also, DD, slow the fuck down man. You are all over the place.
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Post Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 11:25am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Wtf Keith_MM. You want to lynch the probable seer? If JKDS lied about being the seer then the real vig knows it and can shoot him. If JKDS did not lie about being the real seer then the real vig knows it and can shoot stacks. Is keith a werewolf or does he just hate the village?
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Post Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 11:25am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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This is quite the clusterfuck..
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Post Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 11:39am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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XxStacksxX wrote:
This is quite the clusterfuck..


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Post Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 11:41am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Post Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 11:50am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Keith, your post is useless. Stacks is not claiming to be the Vig, he is merely stating that the Vig gets a bullet tonight and he (Stacks) would rather be shot than lynched.
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OK, Keith is making fuck-all sense and already has 2 votes, I'm fine with a bandwagon. Hopefully he'll be a decent medium if he's not a zombie.

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I could get with a Keith bandwagon as well (just on the premise that he his posts are totally moronic), but will stick with my dranger vote for now.
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yes, i am the seer. no, stax is not the vigilante and he's a fuckin wolf.

im now really confused why keith would go through the trouble of even saying that...lynch him harder?
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Keith_MM wrote:

If stacks is hinting at being the vig , then the seer knows that stacks is the VIG. Therefore one of the two of them is lying.Obvious answer is to lynch JKDS

why target me and warpe.?


obv lynch jkds. lmfao, if you're a wolf you are so bad but suggesting to lynch me here and now and that its obvious is the worst move in the history of ww for villager or zombie.

i target keith cuz his reasoning echos stax's alot, and he has the same patterns ie: help out the village, waiting till a wagon starts, posting suggestions etc. stax also says "i like keiths plan" early on possibly linking the two in a silly mistake.

i target warpe cuz i dont like how his role in the lynch spenda thing went. seems suspicious but beats me. i may or may not look him up tonight...obv wont say if i will.

and i like pelion's idea to lynch penny, cuz he's been pretty suspect too i think
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last thing

I have no idea if lolz is fuckin with me or not since he's yet to post about it...but i asked him what happens if the alpha dies. His reply was that the next zombie in line replaces him as the alpha.
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i dont know if Keith just didn't understand what was going on or is playing a zombie horribly. I'm fine with lynching spenda or keith and the vig shooting stax. I still think spenda doesn't add up with as much as he is on the forum, especially in the commune. I missed the entire first page of this thread because i wasn't on FTR for a day or so, but as soon as I went to the Commune i saw that the WW forum had active posts and remembered the game was going. I just can't see how spenda didn't realize this same thing unless he has a bookmark that goes straight to the commune.

that said, i'm keeping my spenda vote.
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ONE MOAR THING

@boog/pelion: i cant really think of a potential vig in this game that wouldnt shoot stax after confirming hes a zombie. So i think regardless of who he is, stax should die.
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@cbc: no, i didnt look up spenda. But it makes no sense for stax to go after him if hes a wolf, theres only two of them. He could just as easily ignore the issue (as he did when i threatened his identity earlier) instead.

so theres like a .0001% chance spenda is a wolf at this point in time.

if you guys really want i can put him on a list of potential look ups but thats seems like such a waste
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Post Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 12:39pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Lynch Keith_MM

His logic is both confusing and frightning
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Post Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 12:44pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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spenda needs to be near the bottom of the list of lookups imo. Id consider warpe at some point.
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JKDS wrote:

i target warpe cuz i dont like how his role in the lynch spenda thing went. seems suspicious but beats me. i may or may not look him up tonight...obv wont say if i will.


as I stated earlier, I voted for spenda to get him to defend himself (which he really hasn't done to my satisfaction). Now that we know that stacks is a zombie then AS LONG AS THE VIG SHOOTS STACKS then we should lynch our best suspect.
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Rilla has also been uncharacteristically quiet, and taking a back seat. Especially since lots of names started getting thrown around. Could be worth considering.
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Alpha zombie will pass down to next person, sorry I did not make that known or even clear at all.l
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Got to make sure spenda isn't dead.
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This vote got a little complicated so here is the breakdown. When xtr1k votes for spenda he gets his 12th vote and is done. No votes or rescindments after that matter.

jkds - stax
warpe - spenda, stax, spenda
cbc - spenda
a500 - spenda, stax
bigred - gator, spenda
instantaces - stax
tlr - spenda
flomo - spenda
penny - boog, spenda
bode - spenda
stax - spenda
bppg - spenda
gator - stax, spenda
kingnat-stax
doandiggy - stax
keith - spenda
xtr1k - spenda



The village debates for a little while, but when the ballots are counted bigspenda73 is lead to the gallows. He fumbled this game away like Steve Slaton. The village cheers when upon death he turns into a lifeless, grotesque zombie. One villager, just to make sure, blows his head off with the shotgun from Goldeneye.



It's HALLOWEEN NIGHT. NIGHT 3!

APPROPRIATE PARTIES PM ME


Village of Riven Join Moll
bigred
BooG690
badgers
JKDS
a500lbgorilla
GatorJH
XxStacksxX
Keith_MM
TLR
dranger7070
WillburForce
chrisBCritter
Warpe
Penneywize
Flomo
XTR1000
bode
kingnat
kiwiMark
DoanDiggy
InstantAces
Pelion
The Departed
StillDeadMoney - Hanged on day 1
bigspenda73 - Hanged by the village on day 2



There are 22 villagers:
ALPHA ZOMBIE
18 VILLAGERS
ANGEL
SEER Heart
VIGILANTE Heart

THE M E D I U M -
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