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Posted: Wed, 04 Nov 2009, 3:00am Post subject: Want advice from an experienced winning player?
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One Pair
Joined: 03 Nov 2009
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WPP: 116
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I've noticed on several questions on 2+2 forums, there tends to be a lot of people answering who aren't really experienced or don't really know what they're talking about.
You often get short answers like "snap call" "easy fold" "easy shove" without any explanation. And very often, they're generally the wrong move.
I've played texas hold'em on and off for a few years now, and to date have NEVER lost money at it. (Went below my initial investment)
I'd answer any questions you have in this thread, and will explain to you why it's the correct move. That is the difference between someone who actually knows poker, and just some random possible losing player giving you an answer.
And if I don't know enough to answer, I'll tell you. No poker player knows everything, and those who act like they do often are giving wrong advice.
Basically this is a thread for beginning players to ask questions without the 'noise' they often get from other threads. |
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Posted: Wed, 04 Nov 2009, 3:12am Post subject:
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Flush
Joined: 22 Feb 2008
Posts: 440
WPP: 196
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| If you're going to join a site, and then make a post like this which basically says "MY ADVICE IS SUPERIOR TO YOURS" you better damn well say something to back that up. |
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Posted: Wed, 04 Nov 2009, 4:07am Post subject:
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3-of-a-Kind
Joined: 03 Jul 2009
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| JKDS you fool, HE NEVER LOST MONEY, what more back-up could you need. |
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Posted: Wed, 04 Nov 2009, 5:05am Post subject:
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Straight Flush
Joined: 04 May 2007
Posts: 5681
WPP: 126
Location: Ballarat, Australia
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I agree to a degree. Here in the BC I'd prefer people put a bit more info/explanation in their answers. In the SHNL forum its not as neccessary since people should be smart enough to work out WHY once they're given the answer (and motivated enough to ask if they can't).
2+2 suffers mainly from an abundance of people who give crap advice though. We dont avoid that here, but less people means less crap and its easier to learn who knows their stuff. |
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Posted: Wed, 04 Nov 2009, 5:16am Post subject:
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Flush
Joined: 12 Oct 2008
Posts: 361
WPP: 216
Location: Stackton
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| XxStacksxX wrote: | | ...Whether you feel qualified to comment on posts/threads isn't the requirement. You will benefit just as much from giving incorrect advice, and being corrected, as the OP of the thread would benefit from you giving correct advice. Poker is never 100% cut/dry, and it's because of this debates about certain decisions are good. You being another well thought out side to the debate can not hurt in any way, even if your side ends up incorrect. |
http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/forum/lost-with-top-set-2nl-t88694.html |
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Posted: Wed, 04 Nov 2009, 5:45am Post subject: Re: Want advice from an experienced winning player?
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Straight Flush
Joined: 24 Feb 2006
Posts: 4170
WPP: 77
Location: Dublin
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| altruist wrote: | I've noticed on several questions on 2+2 forums, there tends to be a lot of people answering who aren't really experienced or don't really know what they're talking about.
You often get short answers like "snap call" "easy fold" "easy shove" without any explanation. And very often, they're generally the wrong move.
I've played texas hold'em on and off for a few years now, and to date have NEVER lost money at it. (Went below my initial investment)
I'd answer any questions you have in this thread, and will explain to you why it's the correct move. That is the difference between someone who actually knows poker, and just some random possible losing player giving you an answer.
And if I don't know enough to answer, I'll tell you. No poker player knows everything, and those who act like they do often are giving wrong advice.
Basically this is a thread for beginning players to ask questions without the 'noise' they often get from other threads. |
From your replies to threads so far it shows you are a beginner. Not saying you are spam but you obv think you are really really good when you arent good at all. This is a common trait in beginners. |
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Posted: Wed, 04 Nov 2009, 6:38am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 25 Sep 2005
Posts: 3542
WPP: 101
Location: The Grind
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Welcome to FTR. The best seats in the BC are in the middle of the circle. |
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Posted: Wed, 04 Nov 2009, 3:12pm Post subject: Re: Want advice from an experienced winning player?
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One Pair
Joined: 03 Nov 2009
Posts: 18
WPP: 116
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| Da GOAT wrote: |
From your replies to threads so far it shows you are a beginner. Not saying you are spam but you obv think you are really really good when you arent good at all. This is a common trait in beginners. |
That is fair. I don't think I'm really good actually, but I do think I'm better than the average player.
There's a saying lurking around that 90% of people lose money at poker, only 10% actually profit. Meaning it's not that hard (in a way) to be better than the average player.
I'm curious though, from your post you're saying you disagree with some of my replies? Which ones and why? |
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Posted: Wed, 04 Nov 2009, 3:18pm Post subject: Re: Want advice from an experienced winning player?
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Full House
Joined: 10 Feb 2009
Posts: 836
WPP: 181
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| Quote: | That is fair. I don't think I'm really good actually, but I do think I'm better than the average player.
There's a saying lurking around that 90% of people lose money at poker, only 10% actually profit. Meaning it's not that hard (in a way) to be better than the average player. |
So you lose less money than about 50 percent of poker players but more money than another approximately 40 percent of them as well as the 10 percent who win, right? |
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Posted: Wed, 04 Nov 2009, 3:56pm Post subject: Re: Want advice from an experienced winning player?
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Eats babies
Joined: 28 Feb 2006
Posts: 3884
WPP: 109
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| altruist wrote: |
There's a saying lurking around that 90% of people lose money at poker, only 10% actually profit. Meaning it's not that hard (in a way) to be better than the average player. | Would you agree that the 10% of players that are winning players tend to spend time educating themselves and visit forums read books and regularly contribute to discussions like this. Do you understand that you came to a forum with less than .01% of all poker players and a large supply of professional players actually making a living playing this game. The 90% that you think you are better than will never come to a poker forum or read a poker book so I don't see why you would think you have something to offer as opposed to learn from FTR. It's good that you learned about 2+2 though. |
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Posted: Wed, 04 Nov 2009, 4:54pm Post subject:
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One Pair
Joined: 03 Nov 2009
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I never implied I have nothing to learn from FTR, to say so would not only be arrogant, it'd be plain dumb on my part. There is no poker player out there who knows everything there is to know about the game.
Nor am I thinking that I know more than most players on here.
I do however, think I know more than the average player willing to take time and reply to micro stake players. The experienced players often only reply in the higher stake forums, or only the occasional question here. Someone up here mentioned they saw a few of my posts, and thought I was a beginner, but he did not reply to any of the original posts until he decided to look me up and see what threads I've replied to, despite them being fairly old posts. Which proves my point.
The purpose of my post, was when I asked several questions on 2+2, I often got only answers from people who seemed to know less than I did. My intention with this post was not to say "hey, I know better than you" but rather to help people avoid what I had to go through. I can only imagine a less experienced player taking advice like "snap calling" top pair weak kicker for their entire 100BB stack, without any explanation as to why.
I'm a winning micro stakes player. I have grinded my BR from nothing but freerolls to well over a thousand dollars. That does NOT mean I know everything about micros, I still find myself sometimes in tough spots. It does, however, mean for those who aren't profiting at micros, I have advice I'm willing to share.
It's better than getting advice from people who can't beat micros. |
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Posted: Wed, 04 Nov 2009, 5:03pm Post subject:
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Season VIII
Joined: 14 Jan 2008
Posts: 2260
WPP: 148
Location: Im opedipus bitch, the original balla.
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Obv we see your point. Posting an answer without logic is rarely helpful, because it's a lack of, or flawed, logic that led to the hand being posted in the first place.
And sure, more advice from winning players is a good thing. But there are quite a few winning players posting here on almost a daily basis. |
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Posted: Wed, 04 Nov 2009, 5:42pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush
Joined: 24 Feb 2006
Posts: 4170
WPP: 77
Location: Dublin
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| im not trying to berate you, all is cool. welcome to the forums |
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Posted: Wed, 04 Nov 2009, 5:48pm Post subject:
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3-of-a-Kind
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
Posts: 106
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Location: Iso'ing Iso's
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Posted: Wed, 04 Nov 2009, 9:26pm Post subject: Re: Want advice from an experienced winning player?
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Straight
Joined: 17 Mar 2009
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| Da GOAT wrote: | | altruist wrote: | I've noticed on several questions on 2+2 forums, there tends to be a lot of people answering who aren't really experienced or don't really know what they're talking about.
You often get short answers like "snap call" "easy fold" "easy shove" without any explanation. And very often, they're generally the wrong move.
I've played texas hold'em on and off for a few years now, and to date have NEVER lost money at it. (Went below my initial investment)
I'd answer any questions you have in this thread, and will explain to you why it's the correct move. That is the difference between someone who actually knows poker, and just some random possible losing player giving you an answer.
And if I don't know enough to answer, I'll tell you. No poker player knows everything, and those who act like they do often are giving wrong advice.
Basically this is a thread for beginning players to ask questions without the 'noise' they often get from other threads. |
From your replies to threads so far it shows you are a beginner. Not saying you are spam but you obv think you are really really good when you arent good at all. This is a common trait in beginners. |
LOL SOOOOOOOOOO good oh soo good hahahahahaha |
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Posted: Wed, 04 Nov 2009, 10:19pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush
Joined: 04 May 2007
Posts: 5681
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Location: Ballarat, Australia
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This doesnt need to become some troll thread for bored posters. Guy seemed to come here to make a genuine contribution.
Rather than create a dedicated thread though, just respond to peoples answers and keep an open mind when other posters disagree. |
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