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Posted: Thu, 29 Sep 2005, 2:23am Post subject: TPGK call for most all of my chips
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EAT BUGS

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I raised 3 hands, then the bubble is broken and we are ITM. so maybe my image has been pretty wild...
the only note i have on the utg limper is 'will limp aa utg.' thoughts??
PokerStars Game #2685784564: Tournament #12956795, Hold'em No Limit - Level XIV (1500/3000) - 2005/09/29 - 02:04:44 (ET)
Table '12956795 63' Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: tahur #1 (34461 in chips)
Seat 2: Bigticket213 (16546 in chips)
Seat 3: gp333 (49005 in chips)
Seat 4: blkcatjr (47714 in chips)
Seat 5: Havoc14 (88697 in chips)
Seat 6: moonoy (66268 in chips)
Seat 7: willtravel (29995 in chips)
Seat 8: LaughingBoy1 (64918 in chips)
Seat 9: PAYTHESET (31454 in chips)
tahur #1: posts the ante 150
Bigticket213: posts the ante 150
gp333: posts the ante 150
blkcatjr: posts the ante 150
Havoc14: posts the ante 150
moonoy: posts the ante 150
willtravel: posts the ante 150
LaughingBoy1: posts the ante 150
PAYTHESET: posts the ante 150
Bigticket213: posts small blind 1500
gp333: posts big blind 3000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to gp333 [As Qh]
blkcatjr: calls 3000
Havoc14: folds
moonoy: folds
willtravel: folds
LaughingBoy1: calls 3000
PAYTHESET: folds
tahur #1: folds
Bigticket213: folds
gp333: checks
*** FLOP *** [Kd Ac 8c]
gp333: bets 8000
blkcatjr: calls 8000
LaughingBoy1: folds
*** TURN *** [Kd Ac 8c] [2c]
gp333: checks
blkcatjr: bets 9000
gp333: calls 9000
*** RIVER *** [Kd Ac 8c 2c] [Kh]
gp333: checks
blkcatjr: bets 27564 and is all-in
gp333: calls 27564 |
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Posted: Thu, 29 Sep 2005, 4:06am Post subject:
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Full House

Joined: 12 Dec 2004
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if he'll limp AA utg, he'll also smooth call a flush after making it on the turn, or cry-call an underpair of kings maybe
i don't know |
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Posted: Thu, 29 Sep 2005, 6:10am Post subject:
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Flush

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i think you're beat. if you raised preflop and he reraised you could get away from it? tough hand.
Edit: Oh god, i don't know either |
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Posted: Thu, 29 Sep 2005, 10:43am Post subject:
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i rarely, if ever, get pms

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I woulda bet the turn.
Don't see how you can get away from the river call without a better read. This is a grab your ankles hand and once his cards are flipped you are either gonna be or  |
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Posted: Thu, 29 Sep 2005, 10:45am Post subject:
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3-of-a-Kind

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I say a prayer and call and hope he doesnt have a K.
I could see him making that play with A-K as well. |
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Posted: Thu, 29 Sep 2005, 11:05am Post subject:
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Full House

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| This looks like a better hand to me. If he'd limp AA UTG he could certainly limp AK(or it could be KQ/KJ/QJ of clubs). FWIW, I got crippled in an MTT w/almost the same scenario(AK UTG vs myAQ BB) and same betting pattern. After rethinking the hand I shoulda layed it down. |
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Posted: Thu, 29 Sep 2005, 11:30am Post subject:
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Season III

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| I'll just say what I told you right after I saw it happen: I hate the call. I rarely see someone bluff all in this deep in the touranament. It defintaly happens, but on that board, there's just too many things that beat you. I'd hate calling for my whole tournament in this spot. You can still fold and have chips. |
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Posted: Thu, 29 Sep 2005, 11:32am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

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| There's no way AQ is ahead on a two K board here. |
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Posted: Thu, 29 Sep 2005, 1:05pm Post subject:
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EAT BUGS

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| pantherhound wrote: | i think you're beat. if you raised preflop and he reraised you could get away from it? tough hand.
| i like this idea.
but if he just calls i have to play AQ out of position, which sucks. |
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Posted: Thu, 29 Sep 2005, 1:13pm Post subject:
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Season III

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| The problem with this hand is that you really have no idea what he has. A limp in early position deep in a tournament usually signifies a big hand which could easily include a K, or he could be some donk limping w/ JT suited. You really have no idea. Maybe pop it up preflop and see what happens. This is just a really bad spot to be in. |
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Posted: Thu, 29 Sep 2005, 1:45pm Post subject:
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EAT BUGS

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| WildBobAA wrote: | | The problem with this hand is that you really have no idea what he has. A limp in early position deep in a tournament usually signifies a big hand which could easily include a K, or he could be some donk limping w/ JT suited. You really have no idea. Maybe pop it up preflop and see what happens. This is just a really bad spot to be in. |
well my one note did give me some idea...i was only 1 tabling so i was noting most hands i saw showed down. so the fact that he only showed AA made me think he was kinda tight, but then again we just hit the money so maybe he was looking to gamble. |
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Posted: Thu, 29 Sep 2005, 1:50pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush

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yeah I totally understand why you didn't raise pre flop, but not having raised I think you fold here. Given the pot size is play is reasonable with the flush, marginal but doable with a K, obvious with a FH. And given your lag image his call on the flop makes sense if he made a big hand, hoping you'll lead out again on the turn.
Mostly I just don't want to go broke with TP in an unraised pot. |
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Posted: Thu, 29 Sep 2005, 5:15pm Post subject:
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Straight

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once u were called on th flop and another club came i would of shut down.
once the second king came on the river i would be out of this hand for a far smaller raise than the one u called.
would be interested to know if this call worked out for you. but with a paired board with 3 suits u went all in with top pair and top kicker. in my opinion, regardless of result of this hand ur play simply stunk |
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Posted: Thu, 29 Sep 2005, 8:02pm Post subject:
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Season III

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| gabe wrote: | | WildBobAA wrote: | | The problem with this hand is that you really have no idea what he has. A limp in early position deep in a tournament usually signifies a big hand which could easily include a K, or he could be some donk limping w/ JT suited. You really have no idea. Maybe pop it up preflop and see what happens. This is just a really bad spot to be in. |
well my one note did give me some idea...i was only 1 tabling so i was noting most hands i saw showed down. so the fact that he only showed AA made me think he was kinda tight, but then again we just hit the money so maybe he was looking to gamble. |
If he's tight that's even more reason to fold. Tight players don't bluff all in. |
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Posted: Fri, 30 Sep 2005, 6:24pm Post subject:
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Full House

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
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| WildBobAA wrote: | | gabe wrote: | | WildBobAA wrote: | | The problem with this hand is that you really have no idea what he has. A limp in early position deep in a tournament usually signifies a big hand which could easily include a K, or he could be some donk limping w/ JT suited. You really have no idea. Maybe pop it up preflop and see what happens. This is just a really bad spot to be in. |
well my one note did give me some idea...i was only 1 tabling so i was noting most hands i saw showed down. so the fact that he only showed AA made me think he was kinda tight, but then again we just hit the money so maybe he was looking to gamble. |
If he's tight that's even more reason to fold. Tight players don't bluff all in. |
werd |
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Posted: Sun, 02 Oct 2005, 1:38pm Post subject:
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Full House

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when im un-sure of situations like this i like to play the hand very passive or get all the information preflop.
I would either raise big like 5x bb preflop or check call the flop and see how he played the turn /river. I would fold to that river bet however. only complete jackasses would push there without the goods. sadly there are a few of those, but u have a note that says limps aa utg lol. |
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Posted: Thu, 06 Oct 2005, 7:49am Post subject:
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Flush

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| what was the result gabe? |
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Posted: Thu, 06 Oct 2005, 10:55am Post subject:
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EAT BUGS

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