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0live
Post Posted: Mon, 18 Jul 2005, 2:48pm    Post subject: Too aggressive / sloppy play? Reply with quote
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PokerStars Game #2132460578: Tournament #10217610, Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2005/07/18 - 17:08:31 (ET)
Table '10217610 1' Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: shaymah (1500 in chips)
Seat 2: ohioharley (3340 in chips)
Seat 3: paxtonv (4310 in chips)
Seat 4: ahssoccer23 (1470 in chips)
Seat 6: Nasteee (1480 in chips)
Seat 7: bignuts11 (1400 in chips)
Nasteee: posts small blind 10
bignuts11: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ahssoccer23 [8d 8c]
shaymah: folds
ohioharley: calls 20
paxtonv: calls 20
ahssoccer23: raises 80 to 100
Nasteee: calls 90
bignuts11: calls 80
ohioharley: folds
paxtonv: calls 80
*** FLOP *** [Qs Td Jh]
Nasteee: bets 20
bignuts11: folds
paxtonv: calls 20
ahssoccer23: raises 160 to 180
Nasteee: calls 160
paxtonv: calls 160
*** TURN *** [Qs Td Jh] [4s]
Nasteee: checks
paxtonv: checks
ahssoccer23: bets 500
Nasteee: folds
paxtonv: folds
ahssoccer23 collected 960 from pot
ahssoccer23: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 960 | Rake 0
Board [Qs Td Jh 4s]
Seat 1: shaymah folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: ohioharley folded before Flop
Seat 3: paxtonv folded on the Turn
Seat 4: ahssoccer23 (button) collected (960)
Seat 6: Nasteee (small blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 7: bignuts11 (big blind) folded on the Flop

Do you think this is being too aggressive and in the long run is a -EV play? Or, do you think this is the correct play if I am confident that my opponents will lay their hands down?
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a500lbgorilla
Post Posted: Mon, 18 Jul 2005, 4:14pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Limp to set.

-'rilla
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Jeebus Kliest
Post Posted: Mon, 18 Jul 2005, 4:26pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Nothing wrong with being agressive, but there is a time and place for it...and this early in the tournament is not usually a good spot.

88 isn't a very good hand...more cards in the deck can come out to pair up and beat your pair than can help just you. (most cards other than the other 8's will most likely help your opp out as well)

Get in cheap...if you set then have fun..otherwise I don't see it being worth the risk
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IowaSkinsFan
Post Posted: Mon, 18 Jul 2005, 6:33pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Almost as bad as that idiot redgrape
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it's really not worth it that early unless you have magical reads on both players that they're both drawing.
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Post Posted: Mon, 18 Jul 2005, 8:00pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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ahssoccer23: raises 160 to 180
Nasteee: calls 160
paxtonv: calls 160

ahssoccer23: looks for first chance to fold.
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Post Posted: Mon, 18 Jul 2005, 8:17pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Limp to set.

-'rilla


^^^

with that flop, i just check/fold it out, you didnt hit your set, move on. 3 overcards and a possible straight draw, theres tons of hands that have you beat.
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CFANG
Post Posted: Mon, 18 Jul 2005, 10:32pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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with people as loose as they often are in these things (not to mension your table looks very wild with 3 people out and the blinds still at level 1) rilla has the right idea. the only raise big enough to win this small pot/make it heads up is too big for 88 to make with some limpers already. As for the flop, it really doesen't get much worse then this unless the flop isn't rainbow. 2 people call a small preflop raise and on that flop i think the question isn't if the flop hit them but how hard. In the words of brave sir robin..."RUN AWAY!!!!"
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