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to fold call or raise - chasing a flush draw

  
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LuckySlevin
Post Posted: Tue, 30 Sep 2008, 1:24pm    Post subject: to fold call or raise - chasing a flush draw Reply with quote
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Big blind so was able to see a free flop.

I have Jack high 4 cards to a flush draw. Bet into at 200.

Wasn't sure to fold or call here. I'm only getting even money on the call, but then thought I have decent implied odds as he may try to have another go at me if I hit the flush.

Then on the other hand it is only jack high. In this case I folded as there was someone to act behind me, and when in doubt I fold by default.

Just wondered if I played this right, or if you would have handled it differently?

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Hero (BB) (t1500)
UTG (t1820)
MP (t1300)
CO (t1730)
Button (t1430)
SB (t1220)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J, 2
UTG calls t20, MP calls t20, CO calls t20, 1 fold, SB calls t10, Hero checks

Flop: (t100) A, Q, 5 (5 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, MP bets t200, 2 folds, Hero folds, 1 fold

Total pot: t100
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d0zer
Post Posted: Tue, 30 Sep 2008, 1:59pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Fold.

1) chasing draws OOP sucks
2) you're getting terrible pot odds (you're getting 1.5:1, not 1:1), and you're only like 4:1 to hit
3) How do you know your implied odds are good? You're only drawing to the 3rd nuts. Admittedly MP's overbet does scream strength, but it's hard to extract a lot OOP when the flush comes in.
4) It's very early and there's no need to take fairly big risks yet.

I would probably fold here even if I had King of Clubs Two of Clubs here unless I had a good read on MP. Maybe that's too nitty Question
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GatorJH
Post Posted: Tue, 30 Sep 2008, 2:05pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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you played it fine
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Rage2100
Post Posted: Tue, 30 Sep 2008, 2:58pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Good fold. It would be bad to call here, for the reasons that d0zer stated.
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taipan168
Post Posted: Tue, 30 Sep 2008, 6:40pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Also agree with the fold. If I had KClub QClub then I would probably shove over however.
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brian1175
Post Posted: Tue, 30 Sep 2008, 6:42pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Too early to be gambling.
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TLR
Post Posted: Thu, 02 Oct 2008, 11:33am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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easy fold with a naked non nut FD
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