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Posted: Tue, 31 Mar 2009, 11:07pm Post subject: three hands 25NL FR
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3-of-a-Kind
Joined: 23 Nov 2008
Posts: 92
WPP: 108
Location: Palm Springs
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Hand #1
Villain has a half stack and is a 59/21. Can I call this shove most of the time?
$0.1/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
8 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG DanyComo85 ($12.40)
UTG+1 HenryV ($76.40)
MP1 Gory Blood ($5.25)
MP2 DirdyBou ($5.00)
CO Grime123 ($25.00)
BTN Hero ($25.00)
SB djingo2006 ($34.15)
BB migoud ($29.85)
Pre-flop: ($0.35, 8 players) Hero is BTN  
DanyComo85 raises to $0.50, 4 folds, Hero raises to $1.60, 2 folds, DanyComo85 calls $1.10
Flop:    ($3.55, 2 players)
DanyComo85 goes all-in $10.80, $10.80 to Hero ($23.40)?
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Hand #2
Villain is a 39/39 and I decided to 3bet and he/she calls. Is it ok for me to donk the flop with two AA on board? Can I call his turn bet or can I shove on his turn bet or should I go back and never bet that flop?
$0.1/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
9 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG Gory Blood ($5.00)
UTG+1 griffey423 ($35.35)
MP1 Macros909 ($6.60)
MP2 Mr. Fred ($15.30)
MP3 KaMiKaZeEeE ($15.00)
CO crisb732002 ($9.15)
BTN $DIMON$_280 ($30.10)
SB Nogardv ($5.70)
BB Hero ($26.85)
Pre-flop: ($0.35, 9 players) Hero is BB  
1 fold, griffey423 raises to $1, 6 folds, Hero raises to $3.10, griffey423 calls $2.10
Flop:  ($6.30, 2 players)
Hero bets $4, griffey423 calls $4
Turn:  ($14.30, 2 players)
Hero checks, griffey423 bets $10, $10 to Hero ($19.75)?
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Hand #3
Villain is 22/11. I bet preflop and cbet flop with AA. I check turn to control the pot and villain's often fire at me here so is it ok to call his turn bet? Is it a mistake not to fire $5-$9 at the river? Is it ok to call his $7 river bet? I felt I was ahead and again, often villains will fire river...perhaps with a hand like AQ?
$0.1/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
9 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG chakalasz ($32.05)
UTG+1 357RUGER357 ($3.45)
MP1 Hero ($25.00)
MP2 troyer16 ($29.15)
MP3 acplayer13 ($47.30)
CO Greenflagbus ($5.00)
BTN Bergeld ($15.60)
SB boro005 ($15.20)
BB bayindir ($10.00)
[Greenflagbus posted $0.25]
Pre-flop: ($0.60, 9 players) Hero is MP1 
2 folds, Hero raises to $1.10, troyer16 calls $1.10, 5 folds
Flop:    ($2.80, 2 players)
Hero bets $1.80, troyer16 calls $1.80
Turn:  ($6.40, 2 players)
Hero checks, troyer16 bets $2.50, Hero calls $2.50
River:  ($11.40, 2 players)
Hero checks, troyer16 bets $7, $7 to Hero ($19.60)?
thanks for your time |
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Posted: Tue, 31 Mar 2009, 11:36pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 25 May 2008
Posts: 1148
WPP: 64
Location: Manc U.K.
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hand 1: snap call
hand 2: whats villains af? ag freq? Over how many hands? without reads betting the flop then check folding the turn is ok I guess. If he also checks the turn bet river for value.
hand 3: Don't check turn, bet $4.60, as played call river. |
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Posted: Tue, 31 Mar 2009, 11:53pm Post subject:
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3-of-a-Kind
Joined: 23 Nov 2008
Posts: 92
WPP: 108
Location: Palm Springs
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| ATOTHEC101 wrote: | | whats villains af? ag freq? Over how many hands? without reads betting the flop then check folding the turn is ok I guess. |
He was AF 0.67 and AFq 40 over a very small sample (22 hands) |
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Posted: Wed, 01 Apr 2009, 1:29am Post subject:
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Straight
Joined: 22 Oct 2008
Posts: 145
WPP: 62
Location: Melbourne Australia
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H1: ive seen villians play like this with JT+, TT+, ATcc+.. i call but am not happy about it.
H2: 2 aces obviously makes it less likely that villian has one so i dont mind betting the flop here but if villian calls then is willing to bet 2/3 pot on the turn im letting it go...
H3: the turn makes the board quite wet. Hits villians range and letting him see the river for that price is a mistake. There are plenty of ugly cards on the river we dont want to see. I problably make it 7+. you will get called by a lot of worse hands here IMO. |
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Posted: Wed, 01 Apr 2009, 8:50am Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 25 May 2008
Posts: 1148
WPP: 64
Location: Manc U.K.
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| meh, check folding the turn in hand 2 feels dirty but do it anyway. |
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Posted: Wed, 01 Apr 2009, 9:08am Post subject: Re: three hands 25NL FR
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Full House
Joined: 04 Nov 2007
Posts: 680
WPP: 111
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| FriskyPirate wrote: | Hand #1
Villain has a half stack and is a 59/21. Can I call this shove most of the time?
$0.1/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
8 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG DanyComo85 ($12.40)
UTG+1 HenryV ($76.40)
MP1 Gory Blood ($5.25)
MP2 DirdyBou ($5.00)
CO Grime123 ($25.00)
BTN Hero ($25.00)
SB djingo2006 ($34.15)
BB migoud ($29.85)
Pre-flop: ($0.35, 8 players) Hero is BTN
DanyComo85 raises to $0.50, 4 folds, Hero raises to $1.60, 2 folds, DanyComo85 calls $1.10
Flop: ($3.55, 2 players)
DanyComo85 goes all-in $10.80, $10.80 to Hero ($23.40)?
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Hand #2
Villain is a 39/39 and I decided to 3bet and he/she calls. Is it ok for me to donk the flop with two AA on board? Can I call his turn bet or can I shove on his turn bet or should I go back and never bet that flop?
$0.1/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
9 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG Gory Blood ($5.00)
UTG+1 griffey423 ($35.35)
MP1 Macros909 ($6.60)
MP2 Mr. Fred ($15.30)
MP3 KaMiKaZeEeE ($15.00)
CO crisb732002 ($9.15)
BTN $DIMON$_280 ($30.10)
SB Nogardv ($5.70)
BB Hero ($26.85)
Pre-flop: ($0.35, 9 players) Hero is BB
1 fold, griffey423 raises to $1, 6 folds, Hero raises to $3.10, griffey423 calls $2.10
Flop: ($6.30, 2 players)
Hero bets $4, griffey423 calls $4
Turn: ($14.30, 2 players)
Hero checks, griffey423 bets $10, $10 to Hero ($19.75)?
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Hand #3
Villain is 22/11. I bet preflop and cbet flop with AA. I check turn to control the pot and villain's often fire at me here so is it ok to call his turn bet? Is it a mistake not to fire $5-$9 at the river? Is it ok to call his $7 river bet? I felt I was ahead and again, often villains will fire river...perhaps with a hand like AQ?
$0.1/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
9 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG chakalasz ($32.05)
UTG+1 357RUGER357 ($3.45)
MP1 Hero ($25.00)
MP2 troyer16 ($29.15)
MP3 acplayer13 ($47.30)
CO Greenflagbus ($5.00)
BTN Bergeld ($15.60)
SB boro005 ($15.20)
BB bayindir ($10.00)
[Greenflagbus posted $0.25]
Pre-flop: ($0.60, 9 players) Hero is MP1
2 folds, Hero raises to $1.10, troyer16 calls $1.10, 5 folds
Flop: ($2.80, 2 players)
Hero bets $1.80, troyer16 calls $1.80
Turn: ($6.40, 2 players)
Hero checks, troyer16 bets $2.50, Hero calls $2.50
River: ($11.40, 2 players)
Hero checks, troyer16 bets $7, $7 to Hero ($19.60)?
thanks for your time |
Hand 1: I like your play here. The 3-bet to isolate the super ag idiot is standard. I snap call his shove and expect to be ahead a lot more than 50% of the time. 99, 1010, KJ, Aj, air make up his range here. He ships QQ+ preflop. If he has a set its just bad luck, move on.
Hand 2: Thats a shit flop for his range. I play pot control and try to get to a cheap showdown. If he has 1010-QQ he will do the same hopefully and then you can induce a bluff on the river, assuming he doesn't fire 2-3 streets. I would call a flop bet and then probably donk/fold the turn. Donking the flop just isn't consistent with having an Ace in this spot imo.
Hand 3: I go for 3 streets of value most of the time here on that board. I hate giving free cards on the turn.. if he has AA beat you will find out by betting. Tons of draws and weaker hands than AA are in his range here and will call the turn. If you want to induce a bluff on the river by checking, that's fine.. but bet-bet-bet is my typical line. |
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Posted: Wed, 01 Apr 2009, 10:30am Post subject:
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Strike 3
Joined: 05 Jan 2005
Posts: 5869
WPP: 52
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hand 1, read about SPR
this is super standard snapcall
you should be calling with any jack because people seriously will shove two overcards since they figure they have fold equity
are you threebetting AJ here as a bluff, though? I think you're behind his OPENING range, much less his 3b call range
in hand 2 stats don't really mean anything since it's over 22 hands
also you're not donking the flop, you're cbetting since you're the pf aggressor
my standard bet sizing on that flop is small, less than half pot for two reasons:
3b pot so I can get all in by the river even if I bet the flop small
well I don't want to blow him out of the pot if he has JJ or something
and if I do that, and valuebet small on these dry boards my bluffs can be very cheap in the same situation
when he bets the turn he doesn't have a big pocket pair that often because he'd try to get to showdown and check it back
so he's either completely full of it or has you crushed
hand 3: you can't check for pot control OOP rofl |
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Posted: Wed, 01 Apr 2009, 10:44am Post subject:
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Straight
Joined: 26 Jul 2008
Posts: 145
WPP: 76
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| texa8 wrote: | | H2: 2 aces obviously makes it less likely that villian has one so i dont mind betting the flop here but if villian calls then is willing to bet 2/3 pot on the turn im letting it go... | The problem is two aces doesn't make it more likely you'll get called by worse than what he has. We're not betting because we think he doesn't have the ace, we should be betting because we're getting value from a hand we beat - in this case I can't see anything less that calls us, especially considering he raised in EP and you 3bet him. |
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Posted: Wed, 01 Apr 2009, 2:42pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
Posts: 3037
WPP: 73
Location: Not Giving In
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| ATOTHEC101 wrote: | hand 1: snap call
hand 2: whats villains af? ag freq? Over how many hands? without reads betting the flop then check folding the turn is ok I guess. If he also checks the turn bet river for value.
hand 3: Don't check turn, bet $4.60, as played call river. |
This. I bet flop in hand 2 smaller like ridiculously small to keep his range wider. |
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