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Posted: Fri, 23 Jun 2006, 8:54am Post subject:
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Strike 3
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england has a solid squad for sure
did you see joe cole's goal in the sweden game
holy shit
now that owen is out we will probably be seeing crouch play that position
they will beat equador with ease |
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Posted: Fri, 23 Jun 2006, 8:57am Post subject:
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3-of-a-Kind
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| Staresy wrote: | England will luckbox their way through and we'll all get to hear about how you are going to win the world cup and how you're "the best side ever".
Quick question - do people think the media hype up the England team as a method of drumming up (more) support or do you think they genuinely believe the team are as good as they are being made out to be? |
This England team are (on paper) a first-rate world-class team. The midfield in particular can probably be argued as the best in the world.
However, between the strange tactics from the management and the perceived attitude of the players they bewilder and frustrate me everytime I watch them!!
(Not just this team either - but every team since the early to mid- eighties with only a couple of games going against this flow.)
As for the media- hype. I try not to read any newspapers regarding England because of the utter shite spewed forth from a bunch of sensationalistic bunch of tossers! 
Sorry but journalists really do my 'ed in.
Anyway, Staresy, aren't you Welsh?
If the Welsh national side actually made the WC finals I'm sure we'll all be made very aware of how well they do.
A touch of sour grapes perhaps?  |
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Posted: Fri, 23 Jun 2006, 9:01am Post subject:
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3-of-a-Kind
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| PO$$E$$ED wrote: | england has a solid squad for sure
did you see joe cole's goal in the sweden game
holy shit
now that owen is out we will probably be seeing crouch play that position
they will beat equador with ease |
Po$$e$$ed, thank you for your optimism.
Unfortunately, I have had it beaten in to me for a long time that ANY team England should beat "with ease" will be "hard-working", "well organized" and probably beat us on penalties.  |
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Posted: Fri, 23 Jun 2006, 9:02am Post subject:
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Strike 3
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England aren't playing well enough to win the World Cup.
However, luck is a factor in World Cups, and teams generally improve as they go on, so we still have a chance. |
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Posted: Fri, 23 Jun 2006, 11:57am Post subject:
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Full House
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| Phew72 wrote: | Anyway, Staresy, aren't you Welsh?
If the Welsh national side actually made the WC finals I'm sure we'll all be made very aware of how well they do. |
WE'll never make it to the World Cup Finals. We will be teased with some brief optimism during qualifying, but we have just come to accept the fact that we will never make it there!
Even if we did, I don't think we would hear about how well we'd do, we would receive some condescending and patronising load of bollocks about how "brave" we were and could "little" Wales actually pick up a world cup point after completing the unbelievable feat of actually qualifying. Seriously - have u heard the tossers on ITV over the African teams?
I actually quite like your response Phew72, it is quite refreshing to meet an England fan who has a realistic appraisal of what England are actually capable of. I happen to agree with you that England actually have a solid team on paper (it pains me to say it!) but they fail to apply some of the most simple concepts necessary at international football - the first of which is keeping the ball for long periods and making the other team chase it round the pitch. |
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Posted: Fri, 23 Jun 2006, 12:05pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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World Cup refs for the WIN!!111!!!
I have never seen such a shitty goddamn job in a major international finals in my life. They might as well staple the yellow to their jersey and just point to it instead of being bothered reaching into their pocket for it. |
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Posted: Fri, 23 Jun 2006, 1:59pm Post subject:
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Strike 3
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| The referees have been top class in my opinion, except Graham Poll's nightmare yesterday. |
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Posted: Fri, 23 Jun 2006, 2:29pm Post subject:
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LAME HUMOR THAT MAKES FISH LAUGH
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| dwarfman wrote: | | The referees have been top class in my opinion, except Graham Poll's nightmare yesterday. |
then this game sucks. Every thing is a freaking foul or worse. Some of these dives are pretty absurd. |
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Posted: Fri, 23 Jun 2006, 5:35pm Post subject:
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Strike 3
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| the refereeing has been horrendous all around, except for several games |
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Posted: Fri, 23 Jun 2006, 6:24pm Post subject:
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Full House
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Anyone see the refereeing in the Ukraine vs Tunisia game??
I am cheering for Ukraine but the ref won that game for us. He didn't call the handball we commited on Tunisia's free kick, and he gave Shevchenko a penalty kick after an obvious dive. |
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Posted: Sat, 24 Jun 2006, 1:57am Post subject:
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Strike 3
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playing world cup soccer on miniclip.com
thought it would be funny to change the names of
Rooney to Dwarfman
The black dude to Boost
and beckham to Muxy
and the keeper to rilla. |
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Posted: Sat, 24 Jun 2006, 2:59am Post subject:
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| AHiltz wrote: | World Cup refs for the WIN!!111!!!
I have never seen such a shitty goddamn job in a major international finals in my life. They might as well staple the yellow to their jersey and just point to it instead of being bothered reaching into their pocket for it. |
So I take it you missed the outstanding job the refs did in the last Superbowl then? |
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Posted: Sun, 25 Jun 2006, 1:10pm Post subject:
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| god, that was awful. I fancy we'll be destroyed vs Holland or even chokers portugal. |
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Posted: Sun, 25 Jun 2006, 5:37pm Post subject:
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Strike 3
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I retract my previous statement regarding referees.  9 vs 9, lol.
Also England played a lot better against Ecuador, still nowhere near the top, but that was a huge improvement. |
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Posted: Sun, 25 Jun 2006, 6:13pm Post subject:
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Strike 3
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Posted: Mon, 26 Jun 2006, 10:06am Post subject:
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3-of-a-Kind
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| Staresy wrote: | | ...we would receive some condescending and patronising load of bollocks about how "brave" we were and could "little" Wales actually pick up a world cup point after completing the unbelievable feat of actually qualifying. Seriously - have u heard the tossers on ITV over the African teams? |
The only reason Wales don't reach the WC finals is down to a lack of world-class quality throughout the whole squad and having to compete in the European qualifying region. You certainly have (and had) your fair share of class strikers and midfield players (Earnshaw, Giggs, Rush, Bellamy, etc.)
There are several countries who qualify for the finals that only get there because their qualifying region is lacking in decent opposition (*cough* USA *cough*  )
| AHiltz wrote: | World Cup refs for the WIN!!111!!!
I have never seen such a shitty goddamn job in a major international finals in my life. They might as well staple the yellow to their jersey and just point to it instead of being bothered reaching into their pocket for it. |
| a500lbgorilla wrote: | | dwarfman wrote: | | The referees have been top class in my opinion, except Graham Poll's nightmare yesterday. |
then this game sucks. Every thing is a freaking foul or worse. Some of these dives are pretty absurd. |
| PO$$E$$ED wrote: | | the refereeing has been horrendous all around, except for several games |
This has been (and I think always will be) a problem with the World Cup finals. FIFA lay down draconian rules and guidelines for the referees to follow, so they have very little option but to book people at every opportunity. Then Sepp Blatter has the nerve to blame the referees after they have followed his rules. pffft....
(Graham Poll's cock-up aside - looking forward to hearing fans appreciation during his Premiership matches next season. Should be a few choice songs.) |
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Posted: Mon, 26 Jun 2006, 4:39pm Post subject:
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One Pair
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| bigred wrote: | | More fans please. |
As requested... Babes of the World Cup
Is it me or does number 82 look like a ´moneyshot´ from the Hulk? |
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Posted: Mon, 26 Jun 2006, 11:47pm Post subject:
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I know absolutely nothing about soccer, but I just might have to start watching!!
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Posted: Tue, 27 Jun 2006, 7:17am Post subject:
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Full House
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| I was watching england vs. ecuador in Stuttgart, what a boring game. About refereeing, I am a soccer ref myself and in general especially in the group matches refereeing was really good but its gone down recently. Pathetic penalty kick aussies vs. italy. Too few red cards (yes that is right, one or two more should've been given) holland vs portugal etc. At least for what I have seen the assistant referees have been amazingly good. |
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Posted: Tue, 27 Jun 2006, 4:18pm Post subject:
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Posted: Fri, 30 Jun 2006, 12:42pm Post subject:
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OLD MAN RIVER
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Posted: Fri, 30 Jun 2006, 1:01pm Post subject:
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Strike 3
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Posted: Fri, 30 Jun 2006, 1:06pm Post subject:
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Posted: Fri, 30 Jun 2006, 4:13pm Post subject:
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Posted: Fri, 30 Jun 2006, 4:43pm Post subject:
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*sigh*
such an open draw now, yet you know england wont beat the portugeese tomorrow |
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Posted: Fri, 30 Jun 2006, 5:35pm Post subject:
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Strike 3
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| portugal shall prevail tomorrow |
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Posted: Sat, 01 Jul 2006, 2:06am Post subject:
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Strike 3
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Posted: Sat, 01 Jul 2006, 2:41am Post subject:
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Strike 3
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argentina lost because of three reasons
1-pekerman
2- bad luck
3- jens lehmann |
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Posted: Sat, 01 Jul 2006, 8:08am Post subject:
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Straight Flush
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| PO$$E$$ED wrote: | argentina lost because of three reasons
1-pekerman
2- bad luck
3- jens lehmann | wrong
they substituted riqulme and make it clear they were playing for a draw with at least half an hour left. |
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Posted: Sat, 01 Jul 2006, 9:02am Post subject:
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Strike 3
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| ... still a huge mistake from Pekerman in my opinion to not bring Messi on. There's a player who can kick-start swift counter-attacks and can really close a game out. |
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Posted: Sat, 01 Jul 2006, 9:47am Post subject:
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Straight Flush
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| dwarfman wrote: | | ... still a huge mistake from Pekerman in my opinion to not bring Messi on. There's a player who can kick-start swift counter-attacks and can really close a game out. | yeah, by putting cambiasso on instead of messi he left his team with no forward counter-attack threat to an awful german defence while suggesting that his team could hold out for the one-nil win.
Eriksson does it too which is why england wont win shit either playing in such a way. Obviously later stage games are always only going to be 1-0 games or penalty shootouts etc but playing negative footbal just asks for trouble. |
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Posted: Sat, 01 Jul 2006, 10:16am Post subject:
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Strike 3
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| Miffed22001 wrote: | | dwarfman wrote: | | ... still a huge mistake from Pekerman in my opinion to not bring Messi on. There's a player who can kick-start swift counter-attacks and can really close a game out. | yeah, by putting cambiasso on instead of messi he left his team with no forward counter-attack threat to an awful german defence while suggesting that his team could hold out for the one-nil win.
Eriksson does it too which is why england wont win shit either playing in such a way. Obviously later stage games are always only going to be 1-0 games or penalty shootouts etc but playing negative footbal just asks for trouble. |
Agreed. I've always said that attack is the best form of defense... you simply cannot sit back when leading 1-0, there has to be some kind of pro-active football. |
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Posted: Sat, 01 Jul 2006, 11:53am Post subject:
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Strike 3
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Dwarfy's England first half analysis:
Hargreaves: Fantastic, best player on the pitch.
Terry: Solid but lost concentration when he was booked.
Lampard: Poor, giving the ball away too much.
Ferdinand: Needs to stop playing those stupid long balls. |
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Posted: Sat, 01 Jul 2006, 12:33pm Post subject:
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Strike 3
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come on portugal
still 45 min left in this game, including extra-time
go home england |
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Posted: Sat, 01 Jul 2006, 12:36pm Post subject:
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Strike 3
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| the english don't have enough heart or guile to beat the Portuguese |
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Posted: Sat, 01 Jul 2006, 12:40pm Post subject:
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Strike 3
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| no owen, rooney or beckham, and 1-man down, england's chances are looking grim |
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Posted: Sat, 01 Jul 2006, 12:54pm Post subject:
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Strike 3
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Posted: Sat, 01 Jul 2006, 1:45pm Post subject:
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Strike 3
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| Owen Hargreaves alone did not deserve to lose that match. He is a hero. |
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Posted: Sat, 01 Jul 2006, 1:46pm Post subject:
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Strike 3
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sweet victory
gg England gg |
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Posted: Sat, 01 Jul 2006, 1:54pm Post subject:
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| PO$$E$$ED wrote: | sweet victory
gg England gg | |
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lol @ rooney
hes a badass and a dumbass! |
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| He is a savage footballer though I'll give him that. |
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Posted: Sat, 01 Jul 2006, 2:15pm Post subject:
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Strike 3
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| rooney will pay the price for losing his head in today's match |
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Allez les bleus !
Enough said. |
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Posted: Sun, 02 Jul 2006, 12:11am Post subject:
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Full House
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| ok i have a question. when france scored their goal against brazil, why was their guy not offsides? |
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Posted: Sun, 02 Jul 2006, 1:36am Post subject:
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Strike 3
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| Greedo017 wrote: | | ok i have a question. when france scored their goal against brazil, why was their guy not offsides? |
because when zidane's foot made contact with the ball henry was still in front of the last defender |
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Posted: Sun, 02 Jul 2006, 5:49am Post subject:
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Full House
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| ah ok, so its when its kicked that determines it, not when its received? what if he started ahead of the last defender when it was kicked then ran back? |
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Posted: Sun, 02 Jul 2006, 6:08am Post subject:
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Strike 3
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| Greedo017 wrote: | | ah ok, so its when its kicked that determines it, not when its received? what if he started ahead of the last defender when it was kicked then ran back? |
It is when the ball is played.
Examples... in this picture, number 10 on the red team is offside, assuming number 11 plays the ball now.
In this picture, number 9 is not offside, assuming number 11 plays the ball now.
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Posted: Sun, 02 Jul 2006, 9:12am Post subject:
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| damn! when did Andy Gray sign up to FTR?!?! |
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