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Posted: Tue, 27 Oct 2009, 7:04pm Post subject:
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Full House
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Just because Brock isn't as good as everybody thinks? I look forward to the day that he fights somebody who isn't tailor made for him or doesn't have a dreadful gameplan
And this thread's main action is me posting stuff |
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Posted: Wed, 28 Oct 2009, 6:48am Post subject:
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Full House
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Urijah Faber telling a story about fighting for his life. He could be lying, I dunno. Could also be true, I want to believe because if true it's pretty sweet. Starts at 1:55
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOQLg7Kc8So |
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Posted: Wed, 28 Oct 2009, 9:00am Post subject:
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| Luke999 wrote: | | ps: any videos of Fedor vs good counterstrikers, just curious because he seems to leave himself rather open on the attack |
Against Crocop. Additionally, at the time Crocop was the #2 HW in the world, the most feared HW striker by far and one of the top 3 most feared strikers in MMA.
Other notable strikers he has dispatched are Semmy Schilt and Mark Hunt, not to mention how much Tim Sylvia's striking was hyped while he was in the UFC.
Also the Urijah Faber story is true if it's the one I'm thinking about where he was running from those guys in Bali. He's also got a really hot sister and there are regularly pictures of them seen together in seemingly inappropriate scenarios at parties and such. Here she is in the middle ldfo.
Also if we start down the omfg Fedor at 205 path this thread is going to go to shit. Take that shit to Sherdog. |
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Posted: Wed, 28 Oct 2009, 12:26pm Post subject:
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Posted: Wed, 28 Oct 2009, 2:08pm Post subject:
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agree, hence why i facepalmed
fight was super de duper close, 48-47 shogun, but him losing was the best thing that could've happened because now people will care if he wins. him winning would've been disaster because he's not huge yet in mainstream MMA. given the state of the 205 division in UFC, and with this situation...yeah, it makes sense.
also, anthony johnson vs. josh koscheck @ UFC 106, co-main event. granted, probably not your standard co-main...but goddamn two contenders in what should be a very competitive fight. excited. |
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Posted: Wed, 28 Oct 2009, 8:07pm Post subject:
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Full House
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| That wasn't a post about who landed what shots, but about what was given by one of the judges as being an important aspect of why they scored for Machida i.e. control of the fight. Those gifs are examples of what they were referring to, and it was something entirely missed by most of the audience. As to who had better shots in those gifs, I don't know. It's very hard to tell. So much of the fight was so close it's splitting hairs trying to assess who was better. But, when you read the explanations for the judging according to the rules, it's much more clear about why they gave the fight to Machida. Nobody's talking about how he stuffed the takedowns and was awarded the points for those exchanges, or how he reversed Shogun's offense on many occasions. |
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Posted: Sun, 01 Nov 2009, 9:33pm Post subject:
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Full House
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best halloween costume
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Posted: Sun, 01 Nov 2009, 10:44pm Post subject:
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| wufwugy wrote: | | Cecil Peoples is a fucking idiot. |
I agree. |
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Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 2:30am Post subject:
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Full House
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| He may be. Problems like this arise due to having extremely vague judging criteria, and judges are able to fall into one plausible line of thinking over another |
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Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 3:06pm Post subject:
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Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 7:56pm Post subject:
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Posted: Mon, 02 Nov 2009, 9:24pm Post subject:
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Posted: Thu, 05 Nov 2009, 4:29am Post subject:
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| So I got owned by Heath Herring last night playing 1/2 @ Luxor and Mandalay Bay. We played for about 6 hrs together and I simply didn't play very well. |
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Posted: Fri, 06 Nov 2009, 9:55am Post subject:
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Straight
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| Is the Fedor fight on Sky? If not how can I view it from the UK. |
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Posted: Fri, 06 Nov 2009, 7:41pm Post subject:
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Posted: Sat, 07 Nov 2009, 12:54am Post subject:
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Posted: Sat, 07 Nov 2009, 1:22am Post subject:
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Yeah I don't mind paying for it, it's like $6.99 for the match live stream?
For us UK people its on 1am Sunday morning right? |
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Posted: Sat, 07 Nov 2009, 1:31am Post subject:
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Full House
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| I haven't had to pay when watching some stuff on those. Maybe it's diff for UK. I have no clue what time it's on for you guys |
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Posted: Sun, 08 Nov 2009, 12:15am Post subject:
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Posted: Sun, 08 Nov 2009, 12:25am Post subject:
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| I tried telling my wife how big of a badass Fedor is, but I don't think she understands, even though he won |
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Posted: Sun, 08 Nov 2009, 12:35am Post subject:
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Woah that was sick, too many people seemed to underestimate Rogers striking ability pre match, when it's was his only way to win, he was never going to out wrestle Fedor.
Sick chin (or nose) should I say Fedor has, to take those blows and not lose. |
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Posted: Sun, 08 Nov 2009, 3:44am Post subject:
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Rogers did a little better than I expected, but he would have been Coleman'd if it wasn't for the cage blocking the armbar, and have looked exactly like a normal Fedor fight
Can't wait to watch again cuz drinking with buddies doesn't give much indication about how it really went down |
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Posted: Sun, 08 Nov 2009, 4:01am Post subject:
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| fedor is have heavy hands |
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Posted: Sun, 08 Nov 2009, 4:46am Post subject:
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On second viewing, I can't believe how awesome that KO was. Fucking brilliant. I knew Fedor was coming into this with the boxing gloves on, and he fucking wrapped that up
Ubereem gonna be a hard match. |
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Posted: Sun, 08 Nov 2009, 5:04am Post subject:
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Just look at this thing. HWs don't see strikes that sick |
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Posted: Sun, 08 Nov 2009, 8:20am Post subject:
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| I didn't know jpeg's could be animated, wtf. |
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Posted: Sun, 08 Nov 2009, 12:48pm Post subject:
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| last night was the first MMA fights i've ever watched. i was really bored after the second to last fight, but fedor made up for it with one punch. i might have to start watching this shit now. |
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Posted: Mon, 09 Nov 2009, 3:30am Post subject:
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Stupid fucking cage. Why don't they just fight in a phone booth so we can be sure to entirely negate technical superiority
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Posted: Mon, 09 Nov 2009, 4:52am Post subject:
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Posted: Mon, 09 Nov 2009, 8:06am Post subject:
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| wufwugy wrote: | Stupid fucking cage. Why don't they just fight in a phone booth so we can be sure to entirely negate technical superiority
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Yeah I thought he had him here. He took those 3 shots rather well considering his nose was already fucked.
Guess will need decent amount of cage adaption for situations like that. Seems to be a ton of talk on "how easy Bret pinned him on the cage" and how somebody like Brock would do this then takedown far too easy and GnP. Over speculation IMO |
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Posted: Mon, 09 Nov 2009, 9:05am Post subject:
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Posted: Mon, 09 Nov 2009, 8:05pm Post subject:
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| Luke999 wrote: | | wufwugy wrote: | Stupid fucking cage. Why don't they just fight in a phone booth so we can be sure to entirely negate technical superiority
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Yeah I thought he had him here. He took those 3 shots rather well considering his nose was already fucked.
Guess will need decent amount of cage adaption for situations like that. Seems to be a ton of talk on "how easy Bret pinned him on the cage" and how somebody like Brock would do this then takedown far too easy and GnP. Over speculation IMO |
Fedor did show that he has good feel for the cage. This move wasn't all cage, but he definitely used it correctly
And about Brock's GnP. Very overrated. Wait till he gets through the several other very tough fights for him in UFC before thinking that he's gonna outclass Fedor. In order to GnP, Brock has to actually open up, and Fedor has shown that that's the exact opposite anybody wants to do when in his guard. Against Mir, Brock showed okay GnP. It was very unorthodox, which turned out to be super effective, but it was also didn't display much strength in dynamics. I honestly think it's more likely that Brock could catch Fedor standing than GnP him to a TKO. But we'll have to see how Brock does after a few more fights. He is still pretty green given the scope of things
Speaking of which, Dana/Zuffa have a hard on for keeping Brock on top as long as possible. In doing so they give him the easiest legitimate fights they can, and Carwin shouldn't be too much of an exception. They don't want Nog to fight him because he has all those miracle subs, and a UFC Nog champ does a lot to undermine their division's strength vs Fedor. IMO, Dana think Cain's got the best chance to beat Nog (which may actually be true), and Lesnar vs Cain for the belt is huge win for UFC since it makes Dana's Mexican guy look the best.
So I predict we won't even see Lesnar fight somebody who would give him very huge problems (like JDS) till like 2011. However, if Nog beats Cain then there's an interesting matchup, but I do think that Lesnar shouldn't lose that with the right gameplan. And Cain could expose Lesnar's gas tank if he really is a work horse. |
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Posted: Mon, 09 Nov 2009, 8:14pm Post subject:
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About Fedor's nose. He was cut late in training, and some people were saying that his nose was even red as he was entering the cage. Rogers just reopened a cut
Looks to me like Fedor has a granite chin though. The jab that cut him landed pretty well, but didn't even phase him in the slightest. And when asked about the suplex from Randleman, Fedor said "I train to fall from various heights"
Speaking of the suplex from the sky
http://www.youtube.com/user/wufwugy#p/f/9/tqDHClu1WiE |
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Posted: Mon, 09 Nov 2009, 8:42pm Post subject:
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Reminded me of this but I couldn't find the gif until just now:
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Posted: Mon, 09 Nov 2009, 9:25pm Post subject:
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| Imma wanna see Hendo sign with SF just so he can KTFO Shields. Great fight for Mousasi too |
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Posted: Mon, 09 Nov 2009, 9:42pm Post subject:
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i know tha kimbo slice isnt what people think but i would like to see him fight brock lesnar. they both are stand up fighters and i think they would beat the crap out of each other  |
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Posted: Mon, 09 Nov 2009, 10:23pm Post subject:
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Posted: Mon, 09 Nov 2009, 10:25pm Post subject:
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| jaycism wrote: | | i know tha kimbo slice isnt what people think but i would like to see him fight brock lesnar. they both are stand up fighters and i think they would beat the crap out of each other |
Kimbo is a piece of fucking shit.
In before why don't posts in the community forum count you retarded piece of things I shouldn't say or I'll get banned. |
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Posted: Mon, 09 Nov 2009, 11:26pm Post subject:
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| Since it's brought up, I would quite like to see Kimbo vs Brock. Not because it's a good fight, but because I want Kimbo's career to end, and I never wanna see his pubic beard and MMA within a mile of each other |
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Posted: Mon, 09 Nov 2009, 11:35pm Post subject:
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| Just watched some good videos of Anderson Silva and Cung le, i read cung le is back in december for a fight, would be nice to watch, loved his fight vs shamrock |
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Posted: Tue, 10 Nov 2009, 12:22am Post subject:
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Posted: Tue, 10 Nov 2009, 6:45am Post subject:
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Just want to say that under some circumstances, I think that a fighter should not be allowed to be saved by the bell. One of them is when a sub is sunk and hes on the brink of passing out. Post-fight, Shields even admitted it was sunk deep, and sounded like he wasn't gonna get out of it. Ten more fucking seconds and he woulda been dreaming sheep. There's something wrong when tiny time limit technicalities negate that. Mayhem won that fight IMO
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Posted: Tue, 10 Nov 2009, 7:33am Post subject:
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| Being saved by the bell is a regular feature of contact sports. When you arbitrarily move the time limits you're potentially opening up a real can of worms. |
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Posted: Tue, 10 Nov 2009, 8:28am Post subject:
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Well, choosing to treat the time limits the way we do is arbitrary itself. In boxing, if you get knocked down, you can't be saved by the bell. It's not much different to provide a set of very strict guidelines that the ref would interpret and adhere to with regards to exigent circumstances. Getting locked in a sub at the buzzer where you will pass out in a few seconds isn't any different than getting KO'd at the buzzer, but still having to get to your feet in ten seconds
I guess I have this silly notion about wanting MMA to be less of a point scoring match, and more of a real fight |
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Posted: Tue, 10 Nov 2009, 10:15am Post subject:
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Posted: Tue, 10 Nov 2009, 10:43am Post subject:
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Lmfao esp when he shakes his head "burger king is for me" |
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spoonitnow: so fedor tested positive for steroids
ms.chelie: omg he did?
spoonitnow: lol no
ms.chelie: lol
ms.chelie: shut up
spoonitnow: his winnie the pooh looking ass
ms.chelie: lol |
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Posted: Wed, 11 Nov 2009, 1:59am Post subject:
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| wufwugy wrote: | Well, choosing to treat the time limits the way we do is arbitrary itself. In boxing, if you get knocked down, you can't be saved by the bell. It's not much different to provide a set of very strict guidelines that the ref would interpret and adhere to with regards to exigent circumstances. Getting locked in a sub at the buzzer where you will pass out in a few seconds isn't any different than getting KO'd at the buzzer, but still having to get to your feet in ten seconds
I guess I have this silly notion about wanting MMA to be less of a point scoring match, and more of a real fight |
i don't think youre quite right.
in MMA, if you get rocked, you can't get saved by the bell, either. that is to say: Fighter A knocks Fighter B down; round ends; Fighter B staggers around the ring; ref stops fight. MMA fights have been ended between rounds because the ref believes the fighter cannot continue. In your boxing example—and the MMA example—there isn't a theoretical continuation of the round. The round has ended.
Moreover, providing referees with that type of discretion is just asking for more trouble. E.g. Fighter A can finish any fight with 100% certainty from half guard if given 10 seconds; there are 5 seconds left in the round; Fighter A lands in half guard; is it really fair to have the ref extend the round? What if Fighter A finishes with 51% certainty? If Mayhem hadn't finished within 10 seconds then what? Why not 10 more?
I'd like MMA to be more like a real fight too. If it were up to me I'd allow knees from all positions, soccer kicks, and one 15 minute round. |
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Posted: Wed, 11 Nov 2009, 2:01am Post subject:
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| spoonitnow wrote: | spoonitnow: so fedor tested positive for steroids
ms.chelie: omg he did?
spoonitnow: lol no
ms.chelie: lol
ms.chelie: shut up
spoonitnow: his winnie the pooh looking ass
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imo |
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The best series of shoops in the history of forever
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