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Posted: Sat, 23 Dec 2006, 11:28am Post subject: The 80/20 rule applies to sexual orientation?
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Full House

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"i hold a firm belief that 100% heterosexuality and 100% homosexuality are both minorities in the big picture. i think sexuality has a scale and most people fall somewhere in the middle of it. i'd say my sexual attraction is about 50/50 ..... which i also think is rareish. most people i've met fall somewhere in the 70-80% liking one sex range.
i also think americans in general (esp american males) are very resistant to that belief."
I didn't write the above paragraph. I'd say I'm in the defined "majority" (prefer girls of course!). I like girls very very much. But I'm also a dancer, and we all know about them...
So do you guys agree? 100% heterosexual or homosexual is a relatively rare phenomenon? |
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Posted: Sat, 23 Dec 2006, 11:41am Post subject:
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EAT BUGS

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| so does that mean i probably like 20% of guys? |
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Posted: Sat, 23 Dec 2006, 12:39pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

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| Ewww... I'm gonna have to start ignoring every fifth guy I meet. |
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Posted: Sat, 23 Dec 2006, 3:12pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 06 Jan 2005
Posts: 1742 WPP: 168
Location: Somewhere fucking up the youth of America
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| is this just some kind of slick way to try to sleep with me? |
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Posted: Sat, 23 Dec 2006, 3:39pm Post subject:
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11 OF DIAMONDS

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| i just cant see 20% of myself snuggling with a man in bed |
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Posted: Sat, 23 Dec 2006, 4:01pm Post subject:
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Full House

Joined: 07 Jan 2006
Posts: 1011 WPP: 103
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| givememyleg wrote: | | i just cant see 20% of myself snuggling with a man in bed |
Qft!! |
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Posted: Sat, 23 Dec 2006, 4:42pm Post subject:
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Almost as bad as that idiot redgrape

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I think this isn't true, I think it's a misconception because...
1. People like to say they are "Bi" for attention.
2. The mainstream seems to enjoy Bi-ness and show it whenever possible.
3. There are a lot of people I know (Guys and Girls) who aren't attracted to the same sex in the slightest. |
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Posted: Sat, 23 Dec 2006, 5:53pm Post subject:
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One Pair

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most people will have a prefrence, but it is definitly a product of social conditioning and enviroment.
Social conditioning: the romans didnt have gays and str8's they had givers and takers - as long as you weren't a 'taker' you could 'give' it to anything and still be match.
enviromental factors: in the same way, lifers in jail who may have been bikers or homophobic jamacan rap stars on the outside, have relationships and fall in love with guys in jail. |
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Posted: Sat, 23 Dec 2006, 10:29pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

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| I'm like 1/99. 1 for women of course. |
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Posted: Sat, 23 Dec 2006, 10:42pm Post subject:
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Eats babies

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I would be willing to bet that the adamant 100%er's are probably closer to the 80/20 or more your refering to. I'D also would be willing to bet that the most secure males, (like bigred) would push the boundaries of, and be much closer to 100% of heterosexuality. I'm willing to bet that it's the fear of their true feelings that make some of the most hateful and homophobic guys act and say what they do.
I say "I'd be willing to bet", because I have no proof of this and It's a poker forum.
On the other end, every women in the world, even the most hetero, all have a "I would never but if I did, she would be it" girl. Usually Angelina Jolie, or Jennifer Anniston. |
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Posted: Sat, 23 Dec 2006, 11:16pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush

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| Quote: | | On the other end, every women in the world, even the most hetero, all have a "I would never but if I did, she would be it" girl. Usually Angelina Jolie, or Jennifer Anniston. |
could you know less about women? |
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Posted: Sun, 24 Dec 2006, 1:50am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

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| After such hot statements from you boys, I'm like .5/99.5 |
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Posted: Sun, 24 Dec 2006, 2:08am Post subject:
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Full House

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Posted: Sun, 24 Dec 2006, 2:50am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

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Location: Somewhere fucking up the youth of America
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| so does this mean I'm actually gay? |
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Posted: Sun, 24 Dec 2006, 3:11am Post subject:
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Straight Flush

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| Pokernub wrote: | most people will have a prefrence, but it is definitly a product of social conditioning and enviroment.
Social conditioning: the romans didnt have gays and str8's they had givers and takers - as long as you weren't a 'taker' you could 'give' it to anything and still be match.
enviromental factors: in the same way, lifers in jail who may have been bikers or homophobic jamacan rap stars on the outside, have relationships and fall in love with guys in jail. |
Source? |
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Posted: Sun, 24 Dec 2006, 3:34am Post subject:
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Full House

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| salsas coming out of the internet closet party? |
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Posted: Sun, 24 Dec 2006, 11:08am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

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| I don't think the margin is 80/20, probably closer to 97/3, but I agree. |
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Posted: Sun, 24 Dec 2006, 11:20am Post subject:
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Straight Flush

Joined: 22 Jun 2005
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| spoonitnow wrote: | | I don't think the margin is 80/20, probably closer to 97/3, but I agree. |
you just like em fat  |
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Posted: Sun, 24 Dec 2006, 12:05pm Post subject:
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One Pair

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| vqc wrote: | | Pokernub wrote: | most people will have a prefrence, but it is definitly a product of social conditioning and enviroment.
Social conditioning: the romans didnt have gays and str8's they had givers and takers - as long as you weren't a 'taker' you could 'give' it to anything and still be matcho.
enviromental factors: in the same way, lifers in jail who may have been bikers or homophobic jamacan rap stars on the outside, have relationships and fall in love with guys in jail. |
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Dunno, what i wrote is simplified, there are hundreds of texts/artworks from the period to support the view. I sutudied latin for six years, i can assure you this was more or less true in Rome across the board before the christian thing started, although status played a role in defining what was acceptable. Either way, the Romans didnt have homosexuality as it was though mature men would be aroused bt young smooth bodies
http://www.oup.com/us/catalog/general/subject/ClassicalStudies/AncientHistory/Roman/?view=usa&ci=9780195125054
If your intrested thats a good statring point
If your finding this hard to belive then dont look into the Spartans of ancient Greece. You wouldn't belive it! |
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Posted: Sun, 24 Dec 2006, 8:29pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush

Joined: 24 Jan 2005
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| Pokernub wrote: | | vqc wrote: | | Pokernub wrote: | most people will have a prefrence, but it is definitly a product of social conditioning and enviroment.
Social conditioning: the romans didnt have gays and str8's they had givers and takers - as long as you weren't a 'taker' you could 'give' it to anything and still be matcho.
enviromental factors: in the same way, lifers in jail who may have been bikers or homophobic jamacan rap stars on the outside, have relationships and fall in love with guys in jail. |
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Dunno, what i wrote is simplified, there are hundreds of texts/artworks from the period to support the view. I sutudied latin for six years, i can assure you this was more or less true in Rome across the board before the christian thing started, although status played a role in defining what was acceptable. Either way, the Romans didnt have homosexuality as it was though mature men would be aroused bt young smooth bodies
http://www.oup.com/us/catalog/general/subject/ClassicalStudies/AncientHistory/Roman/?view=usa&ci=9780195125054
If your intrested thats a good statring point
If your finding this hard to belive then dont look into the Spartans of ancient Greece. You wouldn't belive it! |
Just found it interesting enough to want to find more info on it.
Not that I didnt believe you.
Thanks for the link. |
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Posted: Mon, 25 Dec 2006, 9:42am Post subject:
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One Pair

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no problem.
anyone further interseted read this book:
http://www.amazon.com/Plutarch-Sparta-Penguin-Classics/dp/0140444637
The Spartans were the most feared warriors in all of ancient greece, were buggered from childhood, and regarded women as only there for reproduction.
As hardcore warriors, they had a propencity for cool quotes like "A spartan does not ask 'how many are they' but 'where are they?' " |
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Posted: Wed, 27 Dec 2006, 8:15am Post subject:
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Full House

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Posted: Wed, 27 Dec 2006, 10:07pm Post subject:
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Full House

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it's not so much that you're a certain degree of homo or hetero, but that you like certain things that often correlate with one orientation.
like some dudes are unattracted to other dudes, yet they like anal stimulation. because our lay classification of orientation is a little off, some will say those dudes are representing a degree of homosexuality when they're really not. |
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Posted: Wed, 27 Dec 2006, 11:41pm Post subject:
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Full House

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i'd fuck the ass of the wufuugy avatar
does that make me gay? |
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Posted: Thu, 28 Dec 2006, 12:10am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

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| flomo wrote: | i'd fuck the ass of the wufuugy avatar
does that make me gay? |
like 80/20 gay |
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Posted: Thu, 28 Dec 2006, 9:02am Post subject:
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Full House

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| bigred wrote: | | flomo wrote: | i'd fuck the ass of the wufuugy avatar
does that make me gay? |
like 80/20 gay |
QFT lol |
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Posted: Fri, 29 Dec 2006, 10:36pm Post subject:
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LAME HUMOR THAT MAKES FISH LAUGH

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| I've done a lot of gay things in my day and i don't think im anywhere near 80/20 gay. |
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Posted: Sat, 30 Dec 2006, 1:35pm Post subject:
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{NSFW - nipple}

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| flomo wrote: | i'd fuck the ass of the wufuugy avatar
does that make me gay? |
Now would be an ideal time for wufuugy to change his avatar to that pic of spoonitnow in the FTR thong.
I voted no. I know I'm a 100% hetero, and that's coming from a guy that regularily waxes his balls. Tough call if guys are in the minority for the 100% hetero thing. There's so much "tough guy" stuff out there it's hard to tell what guys are ever telling the truth about anything. I do believe the majority of girls are not 100% though from what I've heard/seen over the years. |
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Posted: Sun, 31 Dec 2006, 12:22pm Post subject:
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Full House

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| a500lbgorilla wrote: | | I've done a lot of gay things in my day and i don't think im anywhere near 80/20 gay. |
you are more like 60/40 |
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Posted: Mon, 01 Jan 2007, 9:27am Post subject:
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LAME HUMOR THAT MAKES FISH LAUGH

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| flomo wrote: | | a500lbgorilla wrote: | | I've done a lot of gay things in my day and i don't think im anywhere near 80/20 gay. |
you are more like 60/40 |
Just becuase every other lonely night I just end up crawling in bed with bigred doesn't really make me gay. bigred is outside the 80/20 rule. |
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Posted: Sat, 13 Jan 2007, 9:58pm Post subject:
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Full House

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For years the estimate was 2%.
The GayLesbian community was pushing for a 10% published number for a couple decades.
My suspicion is that pressure on social desensitization toward homo/bisexuality and fetishism is leading to experimentation in our populace, and subsequently irreversable imprinting by individuals onto odd sexual options.
My belief is that many people go through a pubescent period when they will stick it into anything, or stick anything inside themselves. And with so many absent or unjudgemental 'enlightened' parents, more children have the opportunity to do just that. That being the case, I have no doubt the 20% figure will eventually be reached .
That Roman outlook may expose some truth. Perhaps there's still just 2-4% gays and lesbians, and also a growing percentage of 'givers' and 'takers' who are unable to restrain themselves from new sexual stimulation options, and have no obvious social reason to restrain themselves from experimentation. And there's always the small percentage of lonely people that will "take" just because at least somebody finally likes them.
Prediction for new options over the next 30 years: children and animals. You read it here first. I figure if a culture can't find a reason to stick to the opposite sex, it may be hard pressed to find a defensable reason to stick to adult humans. That's another discussion. |
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Posted: Sun, 14 Jan 2007, 7:45am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

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eeeeee do you vote republican?
In my experience, 10% of people who define themselves as gay or mostly gay feels about right. Having said that, I was reading New Scientist recently and it was something like 19% of men and 33% of women said they had some homosexual feelings.
As for the original post, I think 80/20 is too close, and 97/3 is maybe closer, but the basic premise I think is true for the great majority of ostensibly straight people.
i also think americans in general (esp american males) are very resistant to that belief.
This thread has certainly proved that  |
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Posted: Sun, 14 Jan 2007, 7:53am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

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And with so many absent or unjudgemental 'enlightened' parents, more children have the opportunity to do just that
Hang on a second, wtf? So when you were courting in your teenage days you got your dad to vet your prospective girlfriends? Or did you, like everyone else, smuggle them into your bedroom for a fumble, or smooch in the bushes, or make out on the coat pile at parties?
Call me old-fashioned, but I'd say it's pervier by far to do your teenage experimentation in front of your folks. But maybe you can explain how this works. |
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Posted: Sun, 14 Jan 2007, 2:19pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

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| I bumped into a girl by accident yesterday, I think that means I'm 1/99 again. |
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Posted: Wed, 24 Jan 2007, 8:00am Post subject:
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One Pair

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| eeeee wrote: | For years the estimate was 2%.
The GayLesbian community was pushing for a 10% published number for a couple decades.
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lol...
sorry, i know this is site has a US bias, but i still am amazed people have this attitude. Some kind of left over anti commie Christian idiocy, where people convince themselves that homosexuals are on some kind of recruitment drive (LOL).
Although i must agree with your analysis in part (although the mistake you make is beliving that the "fuck anything" potential of a human male lasts only in pubety) i think its really sad when people have views like yours as if they have a gay son for example (reacent genetic research makes it likley that male homosexuality is primarily attribuitible to a gene which when held by women makes then significatly more fertile so you can always hold on to the notion that it "wasnt mah gene" if it makes you sleep easier) they will forever be hoping that their son will "get better", whereas in reality he is just being himself.
lol join the gays! join us now! We are pushing for an arbitary value to be promoted as a baseline! JOIN US TODAY YOU KNOW YOU LIKE BUMSEX |
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Posted: Wed, 24 Jan 2007, 10:29am Post subject:
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Flush

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| Yeah, homosexuality sure does lead to beastiality, those gay god-less bastards! how dare they engage in an acvitiy they enjoy that doesn't harm anyone else without asking the government or eeee's permision! COME TO THINK OF IT, WE SHOULD BAN POKER WHILE WERE AT IT! DAMN HETHENS! |
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Posted: Wed, 24 Jan 2007, 12:07pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

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| If I fancy women, does that mean I'm on a slippery slope to boning female animals? Cos that wouldn't be gay, right? |
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Posted: Wed, 24 Jan 2007, 12:09pm Post subject:
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Flush

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| Pffffffffffffffft.... NO ! ONLY GAYS DO THAT! |
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Posted: Wed, 24 Jan 2007, 12:19pm Post subject:
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One Pair

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| biondino wrote: | | If I fancy women, does that mean I'm on a slippery slope to boning female animals? Cos that wouldn't be gay, right? |
But if you want to fuck a dog, it seems only sensible to go for a bitch and otherwise you run the grave risk of dipping your dipstick in some dog shit. |
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Posted: Wed, 24 Jan 2007, 12:56pm Post subject:
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Eats babies

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| And yet Courtee berates me for using some harsh tones with morons asking stupid questions, but this, this is fine. This is much better for the NooB's |
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Posted: Wed, 24 Jan 2007, 1:21pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

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| Are you agreeing with eeeee's bigotry, TJ? We're making fun of a homophobe, not attacking some poor newbie's poker mistakes. |
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Posted: Wed, 24 Jan 2007, 1:38pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

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| I saw a very attractive squirrel on my way to campus yesterday but I don't know if it's a guy or a girl. Am I gay? |
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4-of-a-Kind

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| By eeeee's logic, you must be gay, because a hearty, upstanding, redblooded hetero stud wouldn't consider looking at animals that way. |
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4-of-a-Kind

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| By eeeee's logic, you must be gay, because a hearty, upstanding, redblooded hetero stud wouldn't consider looking at animals that way. |
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Posted: Wed, 24 Jan 2007, 6:28pm Post subject:
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i rarely, if ever, get pms

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| Hi - as a shemale, I am in the 100% of liking one sex range - it just depends which sex. |
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Posted: Wed, 24 Jan 2007, 7:07pm Post subject:
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One Pair

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well, im not a shemale but i can put my flaccid member into my butt
am i gay? |
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Posted: Wed, 24 Jan 2007, 7:54pm Post subject:
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i rarely, if ever, get pms

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| I dunno - but you are on your way to becoming shemale. Using duct tape to keep it there is just a pre-op shemale. |
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Full House

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I can't help it. I was born like this. But don't worry, I'm only about 3% of the population. Just don't leave your children or animals with me.
Throw tomatoes here --->  |
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4-of-a-Kind

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| I can't get a squirrel pregnant, right? |
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Posted: Thu, 25 Jan 2007, 7:28pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

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you're small enough to have sex with a squirrel?
wtf I thought you were large and in charge? |
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