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TerryToma
Post Posted: Sun, 24 Sep 2006, 2:33am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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these position stats are nuts.. my $$ is coming from unusual places.. button not working out too well. only 13k stats though

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Post Posted: Sun, 24 Sep 2006, 11:16am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Wow, those position stats look really weird to me. They seem to be just backwards of what someone would consider 'normal.' Mike Caro would probably say you're doing something wrong (remember his famous quote: "If God were looking down on a poker table, he'd see the money flowing toward the button"). On the otherhand, it's tough to argue with your results. Weird.

FWIW, my own position stats for both ring and tourneys are heavily biased toward the button and then fall off the earlier I get-- right up to the point where I lose money in the BB and SB. My poker mentor says that it's the stats of a normal winning player. His own stats (couple hundred thousand hands) are very similar.

Can someone explain to me what's going on with Terry and why he's winning?
-Mark "...acknowledged newbie..."
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Post Posted: Sun, 24 Sep 2006, 1:46pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Bugeye wrote:
Wow, those position stats look really weird to me. They seem to be just backwards of what someone would consider 'normal.' Mike Caro would probably say you're doing something wrong (remember his famous quote: "If God were looking down on a poker table, he'd see the money flowing toward the button"). On the otherhand, it's tough to argue with your results. Weird.

FWIW, my own position stats for both ring and tourneys are heavily biased toward the button and then fall off the earlier I get-- right up to the point where I lose money in the BB and SB. My poker mentor says that it's the stats of a normal winning player. His own stats (couple hundred thousand hands) are very similar.

Can someone explain to me what's going on with Terry and why he's winning?
-Mark "...acknowledged newbie..."


he hasn't got nearly enough hands to make position stats useful (1,5k hands at each position is nothing, really)
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Post Posted: Sun, 24 Sep 2006, 1:50pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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TerryToma wrote:
these position stats are nuts.. my $$ is coming from unusual places.. button not working out too well. only 13k stats though


I actually disagree, they look right to me -- look at your vpip and pfr in the button compared to other positions, and now look at your W$SD: the places you're winning 50% or above you're far more successful (duh). This probably has more to do with say raising PPs in all positions, having more uniform raising requirements than "normal" in those positions, and that helps because clearly your button raises aren't getting a ton of respect, and if that's the case, you're not going to be able to take it down as often as you might normally.
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Post Posted: Sun, 24 Sep 2006, 2:55pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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The graph is sick!! Nice run man, keep it up!
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Post Posted: Sun, 24 Sep 2006, 5:41pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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terry, i will be taking my life soon if you don't hit a downswing lol.
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Post Posted: Mon, 25 Sep 2006, 1:08am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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martindcx1e wrote:
terry, i will be taking my life soon if you don't hit a downswing lol.


Ok, i hit a downswing just for you. Ran into a set v my overpair, and flush v higher flush. Oh yeah called down without odds a couple of hands too Smile. Watching the WSOP on ESPN2 got me off my game a bit.

Now back to my normal style.

My current bankroll is $8037. Just cleared 100$ Bonus from hollywood, and made 12$ + Bonus.

check out
http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=400161#400161

to join the discussion on my 15k hands at 100NL, and let me know your thoughts on a potential move up to 200NL.

graph on first page updated.
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Post Posted: Mon, 25 Sep 2006, 1:20am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Terry,

My stats are almost identical e.g. VPIP, PFR, c/bets, att to steal blinds etc. but my winrate is far lower than yours.

What do you think I could do to improve my winrate? Push or overbet the pot every time I believe I am ahead? I know this is not a Q&A but maybe I am missing something very obvious from my game?

P.S. And YES, I do believe that you should move up limits!
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Post Posted: Mon, 25 Sep 2006, 1:26am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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silu_nz wrote:
Terry,

My stats are almost identical e.g. VPIP, PFR, c/bets, att to steal blinds etc. but my winrate is far lower than yours.

What do you think I could do to improve my winrate? Push or overbet the pot every time I believe I am ahead? I know this is not a Q&A but maybe I am missing something very obvious from my game?

P.S. And YES, I do believe that you should move up limits!


oh yeah, i dont mess around with a big hand.. i bet every time. i tried slow playing a set today in a limped pot (ugh i never do either), and i know i would have won a stack had i just raised preflop.. instead it was a 6way pot from sb with Q74.. people get curious as to what i have when i bet strong.. i dont mind if i win it right their either. i also bet my draws as well, but not raise.
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Post Posted: Mon, 25 Sep 2006, 10:45am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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terry, do you bet your draws as heavy as your made hands?
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Post Posted: Mon, 25 Sep 2006, 10:51am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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martindcx1e wrote:
terry, do you bet your draws as heavy as your made hands?


on the flop, yes.
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Post Posted: Tue, 26 Sep 2006, 12:06am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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up 4.5 buyins today. still at 100NL clearing the monster 500$ 10x Bonus at PokerRoom. pretty crazy day, hitting a lot of gutshots and backdoor flushes. ran 24/10 (ugh). flopped a ton of straights, had a couple all in nut str8s with rivered fh, that happens though. i have 1550$ in PokerRoom right now, once i get that to 2k ill move up to 200NL for a test run. played a bit slaggy today.

i also played a cheap 5$ sit n go home game with some classmates. was quite fun. i played almost every flop and worked on my hand reading. the guys werent too bad of players at all.. had a lot of fun and made poker fresh again for me. it was getting a bit stale this afternoon. i have to keep myself thinking/engaged in every hand. it helps my reads, lets my subconscious work. if im passive and thinking about something else, my edge is gone and my play is -ev.
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Post Posted: Tue, 26 Sep 2006, 12:15am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Almost as bad as that idiot redgrape
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i hate you with a passion Terry... Smile
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Post Posted: Tue, 26 Sep 2006, 1:13am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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i nominate terry for president
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Post Posted: Tue, 26 Sep 2006, 1:30am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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wait till you go a whole month without winning
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Post Posted: Tue, 26 Sep 2006, 1:35am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Renton wrote:
wait till you go a whole month without winning


ugh, no thanks. makes me not want to move up! Wink 100NL is very steady right now. statements like that scare me because of your march to 10k was so fast and steady that it worries me a bit to see Smile..

i have been running very consistent.. i tend to push the limits of depositing a bit, for example i deposit $1k to $1.1k each reload, knowing i can put more $$ in from neteller if need be. luckily i havent had to redeposit more than once due to this.
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Post Posted: Tue, 26 Sep 2006, 1:39am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Renton wrote:
wait till you go a whole month without winning

seriously, it seems like you're building up some bad bad karma man lol. hope it's not true though.
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Post Posted: Tue, 26 Sep 2006, 11:50pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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watched the WSOP and was pumped to play the party Bonus, but once the adrenaline wore off i crashed mentally. not enough sleep lately. ended down 1.5 buyins.

i did add up my yearly total. its crazy how i was so pumped about 45$ in the first few months.

+15k for the year, most of which has come in the last 6 weeks.
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Post Posted: Thu, 28 Sep 2006, 12:13am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Welp nothing tilts me like a bad internet connection.

I donked off a couple of stacks vs real loose players. Also pushed all in KK vs AA, got sucked out all in on flop KKQ when i had AK. Definitely hitting a bit of a downswing, down 4 or 5 buyins in the last couple of days. Having pokeracehud and PokerTracker problems, wife out of town, behind on deadlines.. ugh.. i need to take some time off from poker at this point. Im basically even for the last 4 days, which is somethign im not quite used to heh.

Ill make sure to post the tilty hands so i can go over them and be accountable. I tend to play better when I keep everyone updated and also spend more time posting HHs, talking about hands. Otherwise im just playing on autopilot, which is -ev.

here ya go, tell me what you think of these hands, and how i should have played them.
http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=44180&highlight=
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Post Posted: Thu, 28 Sep 2006, 10:30pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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hey guys

i hit my head 2 days ago at work, most of these hands were since then. i have had some weird feelings/neurological symptoms and went to the ER. Head CT was normal, doctor diagnosed me with a concussion, so my brain is bruised/swollen. So playing idiot hands like this is a symptom of it. Im taking a few days off till i start thinking 100% again.

seriously.

but ill be ok, and should be back to normal in a few days. never had a concussion before. anyone have this before?
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Post Posted: Thu, 28 Sep 2006, 10:47pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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WORST EXCUSE EVER. It's ok to play some hands badly, everyone does it, even people on redonkulous 200 buy-in upswings. You don't have to go get a CT scan after every bad session Smile

Seriously though, take care of yourself, and you'll be back killing 100NL in no time.
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Post Posted: Sat, 30 Sep 2006, 11:45am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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welp its been fun.

im cashing out until the dust settles. yeah i could continue to play for a while but my heart just isnt in it right now. i dont want to risk my earnings. the current 500$ Bonus at PokerRoom doesnt expire till around thanksgiving. so i have plenty of time later to play.
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well, posted my current thoughts about whats after poker here:

http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=404247#404247

i was pretty upset last night, but im ok today. i had a bad feeling that this would happen months ago, so its not too much of a shock..
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Post Posted: Sat, 14 Oct 2006, 2:43am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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now that things are taking shape, i was thinkin about restarting at Full Tilt with Rakeback. they have a lot of advertizing so perhaps they will get a lot of fish in. my favorite sites are all closing their doors (hollywood, PokerRoom, party, Empire, Paradise)

not sure what is going to happen next, but poker is definitely a unique pastime, my friends are playing WoW, and i cant get in to that.

so i might get 1k back into my neteller and then into FullTilt to start a new adventure at 50NL. i havent played in 2 weeks so im sure im a bit rusty, plus it might take a while getting used to Full Tilt.
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Post Posted: Sat, 14 Oct 2006, 3:49am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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TerryToma wrote:
now that things are taking shape, i was thinkin about restarting at Full Tilt with Rakeback. they have a lot of advertizing so perhaps they will get a lot of fish in. my favorite sites are all closing their doors (hollywood, PokerRoom, party, Empire, Paradise)

not sure what is going to happen next, but poker is definitely a unique pastime, my friends are playing WoW, and i cant get in to that.

so i might get 1k back into my neteller and then into FullTilt to start a new adventure at 50NL. i havent played in 2 weeks so im sure im a bit rusty, plus it might take a while getting used to Full Tilt.

terry, full contact is moving to a different network, and starting sunday they'll have a $500 reload going. if you never played there they have a $500 sign-up as well. since they'll be moving networks i'm sure the bonuses will be respected should they move in the middle of one. just a heads-up in case you didn't know.
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Post Posted: Sat, 14 Oct 2006, 12:27pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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martindcx1e wrote:
TerryToma wrote:
now that things are taking shape, i was thinkin about restarting at Full Tilt with Rakeback. they have a lot of advertizing so perhaps they will get a lot of fish in. my favorite sites are all closing their doors (hollywood, PokerRoom, party, Empire, Paradise)

not sure what is going to happen next, but poker is definitely a unique pastime, my friends are playing WoW, and i cant get in to that.

so i might get 1k back into my neteller and then into FullTilt to start a new adventure at 50NL. i havent played in 2 weeks so im sure im a bit rusty, plus it might take a while getting used to Full Tilt.

terry, full contact is moving to a different network, and starting sunday they'll have a $500 reload going. if you never played there they have a $500 sign-up as well. since they'll be moving networks i'm sure the bonuses will be respected should they move in the middle of one. just a heads-up in case you didn't know.


good point. what sort of clearance rate is FCP running? i dont have an account there, perhaps i should wait until they switch over so i can get a Rakeback deal going. i also read somewhere that i can upgrade my Absolute account to a Rakeback account..
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Post Posted: Sat, 14 Oct 2006, 12:56pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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TerryToma wrote:
martindcx1e wrote:
TerryToma wrote:
now that things are taking shape, i was thinkin about restarting at Full Tilt with Rakeback. they have a lot of advertizing so perhaps they will get a lot of fish in. my favorite sites are all closing their doors (hollywood, PokerRoom, party, Empire, Paradise)

not sure what is going to happen next, but poker is definitely a unique pastime, my friends are playing WoW, and i cant get in to that.

so i might get 1k back into my neteller and then into FullTilt to start a new adventure at 50NL. i havent played in 2 weeks so im sure im a bit rusty, plus it might take a while getting used to Full Tilt.

terry, full contact is moving to a different network, and starting sunday they'll have a $500 reload going. if you never played there they have a $500 sign-up as well. since they'll be moving networks i'm sure the bonuses will be respected should they move in the middle of one. just a heads-up in case you didn't know.


good point. what sort of clearance rate is FCP running? i dont have an account there, perhaps i should wait until they switch over so i can get a Rakeback deal going. i also read somewhere that i can upgrade my Absolute account to a Rakeback account..

ok full contact is part of Ongame. it's negreanu's site (www.fullcontactpoker.com). you can have TWO bonuses going at a time there. their bonuses clear at 9 points for every Bonus dollar, and they expire in 90 days. sooo if you deposit right now for the $500 sign-up then you can also reload on sunday for the $500 reload and have 90 days to get both done which, if you're playing at least 50NL, should very doable. that should be a nice going away present from Ongame.
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Post Posted: Sun, 15 Oct 2006, 12:29am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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welp

signed up with Full Tilt with Rakeback.. + 600$ Bonus. i was only able to deposit 750$ (i had withdrawn entire bankroll) due to my instacash limit. I have read that Full Tilt pays this instacash fee, which is pretty sweet. i was hoping to deposit 1k so i could be legit rolled for 50NL. I havent played in 2 weeks. and i am exhausted after 350 hands. oh yeah, and i have only cleared 8$ of the Bonus, seems a bit slower than a 10x PokerRoom skin.

ended +1 buyin though, here was my worst hand, this guy had me confused with his overbet on the turn, he is very loose player, 53/12 or something, and he was under my skin from a few hands earlier we had together. I really thought he was trying to by the pot and didnt have even a pair (i had him on AK/AQ)

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $96.95
UTG+1: $112.85
MP1: $31.70
MP2: $45.95
MP3: $17.40
CO: $22.20
Button: $64.65
SB: $58.65
Hero: $50

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is BB with 8Heart AHeart
2 folds, MP1 raises to $1.5, 3 folds, Button calls, SB folds, Hero calls.

Flop: 6Heart 8Diamond 7Spade ($4.75, 3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets $4, Button folds, Hero calls.

Turn: TDiamond ($12.75, 2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 is all-in $26.2, Hero calls.

River: 6Club ($65.15, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $65.15)


Results:
Final pot: $65.15
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Ouch...the obvious draw completes and he pushes?
99 is certainly in his raising range...he would have to be really moronic/maniacal to push there without the goods...I would think most anything else goes into check turn call/fold river mode after that turn card...hell even 77 is in his raising range and probably takes the free river card...
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i dont like playing this hand OOP ,i dont like the call on the flop , i think c/r is the better play here ..on the turn easy fold , he could have had jj+ shit even AT beats u ..
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make less hero calls out of position
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Post Posted: Sun, 15 Oct 2006, 5:20am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Welcome back to poker, you grindin' monster.

Villain raised preflop in the hand. You flop TPTK, a great hand in theory, but this particular hand is not that strong because of flop texture. Your top pair is only a pair of 8's, meaning any higher pp has you virtually crushed. Aside from that there is three to a straight on the board. Unlike some other posters, I do like the flop call, as it lets Villain know that you aren't going to let him push you around (whether you have it or not, he doesn't know).

The turn brings 4 to a straight, making any 9 a straight. Honestly at this point with the massive overbet I don't think Villain is as likely to have the straight as a set or overpair, as the bet seems to want to drive out any further action. Either way I think betting 2x the pot makes this hand an easy laydown.

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Thanks for your comments.

he had T8.

I knew he didnt have the str8, i was thinking he had something like AK/AQ. Of course I should have folded. Havent had a bad hand like that since.

Played another 40 minutes, up another buyin. running 23/12. Im guessing that would be 20/10 if it were 10 person rather than 9. I am doing a lot more blind stealing because Full Tilt is very rocky. I enjoy rocky places better, though. Predictable players are good. Basically cbetting, and folding to opposition.

In personal life, got another dog. Almost exactly the same as my 2 year old dog, male papillion. Time to learn how to potty train again!..

bankroll - $850, playing 50NL on Full Tilt (yeah i know im underolled)
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played tired today, donked off my winnings, then came back after a nap and did better.. yet another example of making sure to play under optimal conditions.. also im not up to 8 tabling at the moment, 6 tabling is the way to go for me, until i get used to Full-Tilt software.

go bears!
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Post Posted: Tue, 17 Oct 2006, 10:27pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Hey Terry--

Just curious-- how many Full Tilt points do you clear per hand at 50NL? I've been playing 10PL/NL and I seem to clear ~0.2 points per hand played (I've only played about 1,200 hands at FT so far). Since the rake is 10% at 10NL, I'm curious as to whether you clear points/bonus much faster at the higher stakes where they rake the usual 5%.
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drtofu66 wrote:
Hey Terry--

Just curious-- how many Full Tilt points do you clear per hand at 50NL? I've been playing 10PL/NL and I seem to clear ~0.2 points per hand played (I've only played about 1,200 hands at FT so far). Since the rake is 10% at 10NL, I'm curious as to whether you clear points/bonus much faster at the higher stakes where they rake the usual 5%.


played ~1500 hands. cleared ~35$ in Bonus.

down a buy in today. the learning curve is hitting me hard Smile i turned off avatars and am getting more used to the software. making better reads now.


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I have been way to loose lately, even for me. im going to focus on getting the stats down to 20/10 at full ring and thinking more during the hands. i can feel my brain get back into poker shape. the players at FT are quite a bit more aggressive than PokerRoom, most AFs are >1. Lots of c/r or reraising the flop with TP. Didnt see that too much at the old place.


My fun hands for today:

same villain both hands.. guy was quite laggy at 46/13. i knew he had a boat on the turn, so i just pushed hand 1. hand 2, he was thinking for quite some time, i say "fold" in chat and then he calls with AKs.. JTo hand 1. the thing is, that these were actually my thinking hands as well. the rest of the day i had been more on autopilot and steadily losing $$.


******* Hand 1 ********

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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
9 players
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Stack sizes:
TerryToma: $73.70
UTG+1: $5
MP1: $14.25
MP2: $11.35
MP3: $38.45
CO: $168.75
Button: $20
SB: $3
BB: $20

Pre-flop: (9 players) TerryToma is UTG with QDiamond QClub
TerryToma raises to $2, 4 folds, CO calls, 3 folds.

Flop: 3Club 3Diamond TSpade ($4.75, 2 players)
TerryToma bets $4, CO raises to $8, TerryToma raises to $16, CO calls.

Turn: TClub ($36.75, 2 players)
TerryToma checks, CO checks.

River: QSpade ($36.75, 2 players)
TerryToma bets $59, CO raises to $118, TerryToma calls all-in $0.7.
Uncalled bets: $58.3 returned to CO.

Results:
Final pot: $156.15


******* Hand 2 ********

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $38.80
UTG+1: $96.10
MP1: $18.75
MP2: $19.50
MP3: $22
TerryToma: $149.85
Button: $11.80
SB: $20.05
BB: $19.50

Pre-flop: (9 players) TerryToma is CO with ASpade AClub
UTG folds, UTG+1 raises to $3.5, 3 folds, TerryToma raises all-in $149.85, 3 folds, UTG+1 calls all-in $92.6.
Uncalled bets: $53.75 returned to TerryToma.

Flop: 6Heart QClub KClub ($1.5, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $192.95)


Turn: QSpade ($1.5, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $192.95)


River: JSpade ($1.5, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $192.95)


Results:
Final pot: $1.5
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Post Posted: Wed, 18 Oct 2006, 2:46am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Wow, you're progress is amazing Shocked Sorry to clog up the topic with such a simple question, but how did you get the graph that you update in your first post with No. of hands vs Winnings?
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ray wrote:
Wow, you're progress is amazing Shocked Sorry to clog up the topic with such a simple question, but how did you get the graph that you update in your first post with No. of hands vs Winnings?

Google PokerGrapher.
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+5 buyins today, bankroll ~1k now. So im officially rolled for 50NL. I'll probably start a new thread in poker etc. when i get some motivation.
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Why a new thread? For a new start? Smile

I can split any part of this thread for you if you want. Or I can move it. Just let me know if you want either of those things.
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Post Posted: Thu, 19 Oct 2006, 12:30pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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terry, i noticed you were up 5 buy-ins for the day. does most of that come from double ups with stuff like sets or is a lot of it smaller and medium pots that add up at the end?
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martindcx1e wrote:
terry, i noticed you were up 5 buy-ins for the day. does most of that come from double ups with stuff like sets or is a lot of it smaller and medium pots that add up at the end?


the usual, AA/KK preflop/flop. then str8's, sets, flushes, fh.

one hand i won big tripled up with 79 flopped top 2 vs 3 other semishorties. another hand i flopped a set on monotone board, guy slowplayed flopped nutflush let me hit my full house and got a stack there.
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Looking back at your original post..haven't you completed all the goals? It might be time for some new ones Smile
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Setzy wrote:
Looking back at your original post..haven't you completed all the goals? It might be time for some new ones Smile


good point. gotta think of my goals. right now im just fighting to get back to where i was (100NL).
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played 700 hands today, up 7$ + Bonus ha. just wasnt getting good cards. if would have played without thinking i would have been down 2+ stacks.

check out:
http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=412456#412456
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Post Posted: Sun, 22 Oct 2006, 4:19am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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basically break even today...

got sucked out on by shorties, no biggie.. chased a few draws that didnt hit... i did play a 20/8.5 game today. so i tightenend up there. a few thinking hands where i had tptk and second barrels had me thinking a bit. i just need to play more during peak hours, with a sharp and clear mind. i have been playing big sessions late at night on Full Tilt, and i get a bit fatigued. also that place is a rock garden. i might get set up at Bodog, since it has about as many players as Full Tilt, but from what i hear, way more fish. too many shorties and multitabling nits at Full Tilt (at least at 3am on sat night).

bankroll is $1120.
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TerryToma wrote:
basically break even today...

got sucked out on by shorties, no biggie.. chased a few draws that didnt hit... i did play a 20/8.5 game today. so i tightenend up there. a few thinking hands where i had tptk and second barrels had me thinking a bit. i just need to play more during peak hours, with a sharp and clear mind. i have been playing big sessions late at night on Full Tilt, and i get a bit fatigued. also that place is a rock garden. i might get set up at Bodog, since it has about as many players as Full Tilt, but from what i hear, way more fish. too many shorties and multitabling nits at Full Tilt (at least at 3am on sat night).

bankroll is $1120.

In my experience FT is the rockiest of all. Stars is still rocky compared to Ongame but I think it's softer than FT. Bodog is pretty nice but 3 tables gets pretty annoying.
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martindcx1e wrote:

In my experience FT is the rockiest of all. Stars is still rocky compared to Ongame but I think it's softer than FT. Bodog is pretty nice but 3 tables gets pretty annoying.


I agree. I need to move some of my $$ over to Bodog. possibly 5 table FT and 3 table Bodog. WPEX could be interesting as well.

heres some hands from the last 2 days for HH.
http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=413586#413586
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TerryToma wrote:
martindcx1e wrote:

In my experience FT is the rockiest of all. Stars is still rocky compared to Ongame but I think it's softer than FT. Bodog is pretty nice but 3 tables gets pretty annoying.


I agree. I need to move some of my $$ over to Bodog. possibly 5 table FT and 3 table Bodog. WPEX could be interesting as well.

heres some hands from the last 2 days for HH.
http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=413586#413586

I just finished a really old $50 Stars Bonus and moved 1/2 my roll to WPEX. I'm now playing Bodog & WPEX. Bodog is pretty sweet with the bottomless Bonus and horrible players. No PT though so get used to no HUD! WPEX could definitely use some traffic. There's usually 0 50NL full ring games, maybe 1 or 2 25NL full ring games, and 1 100NL full ring game. There's also usually ~2 5-max games of each of those running as well. Playing a mix of 10NL & 25NL there yields about $5/hr in Rakeback.

Also...are you against playing at Stars or are you staying at FT b/c of the Bonus?

Also...here are some nice examples of what you'll find at Bodog...
http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/forum/poker-45167.htm
http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/forum/poker-45263.htm
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