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Posted: Thu, 25 Nov 2004, 5:30pm Post subject: Squeak's Bad Beat of the Day #3
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Straight
Joined: 23 Nov 2004
Posts: 136
WPP: 320
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My first thought after looking at this is that I should have pushed much harder preflop. I was at least a 90% favorite to win this one....
***** Hand History for Game 1222235360 *****
NL Hold'em Trny:7437040 Level:1 Blinds (10/15) - Thursday, November 25, 17:19:51 EDT 2004
Table 2 - Table(146036) Table #2 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: Briar1108 ( $1000 )
Seat 2: hungtrano2 ( $1000 )
Seat 3: Bertobad ( $1000 )
Seat 4: favenn ( $1000 )
Seat 5: hebert428 ( $1000 )
Seat 6: tomota01 ( $1000 )
Seat 7: Jompis ( $1000 )
Seat 8: Squeak2k2 ( $1000 )
Seat 9: GAISfan ( $1000 )
Seat 10: schmidtter ( $1000 )
Trny:7437040 Level:1
Blinds (10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Squeak2k2 [ Ks Kh ]
schmidtter could not respond in time.(disconnected)
schmidtter folds.
tomota01: come on, i want to eat turkey
Briar1108 calls [15].
hungtrano2 folds.
Bertobad folds.
favenn calls [15].
hebert428 folds.
tomota01 calls [15].
Jompis calls [15].
Squeak2k2 raises [40].
GAISfan calls [35].
Squeak2k2: i ate early
Briar1108 calls [35].
favenn calls [35].
tomota01 calls [35].
Jompis folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4d, 9h, 5s ]
Squeak2k2 bets [100].
GAISfan raises [300].
Briar1108 folds.
favenn folds.
tomota01 folds.
Squeak2k2 raises [600].
favenn: balls
GAISfan calls [400].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8c ]
Squeak2k2 is all-In.
GAISfan is all-In.
** Dealing River ** [ 9s ]
Squeak2k2 shows [ Ks, Kh ] two pairs, kings and nines.
GAISfan shows [ 9c, Qc ] three of a kind, nines.
Player Squeak2k2 finished in 20 place
GAISfan wins 2165 chips from the main pot with three of a kind, nines. |
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Posted: Thu, 25 Nov 2004, 6:41pm Post subject:
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LAME HUMOR THAT MAKES FISH LAUGH
Joined: 28 Sep 2004
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Location: This room is a good place to be
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Posted: Mon, 29 Nov 2004, 2:35pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 15 Oct 2004
Posts: 1476
WPP: 135
Location: moral high ground
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I hate KK.
That's about how I would have played it, although you are right, it would have been better to put in a bigger preflop raise. The problem is that most people don't respect a 2x - 3x preflop raise, especially the fish that swim around early in the tournament. And especially if they are in the big blind, they feel they can't just fold when they already have 15 in there. Not sure what the buy in is for this one, but I am guessing it was a relatively low buy in based on the hilarious guy calling you with a pair of 9's with a weak kicker. I mean, what did he think you had? J9? This is obviously a guy to buddy list or at least take a note on. Seriously, I don't even understand how people like this can be playing poker unless they are brand spanking new and haven't learned a lesson yet.
Just seeing this makes me feel sick because KK has killed me recently. |
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Posted: Mon, 29 Nov 2004, 2:43pm Post subject:
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Flush
Joined: 07 Sep 2004
Posts: 522
WPP: 83
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| This can't really be considerd a bad beat, you handed the guy the hand. Early in a tourney you need to raise to get these people out of the hand, you may get no action but its better then losing and knocking yourself out. |
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Posted: Mon, 29 Nov 2004, 3:27pm Post subject: Re: Squeak's Bad Beat of the Day #3
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Full House
Joined: 15 Oct 2004
Posts: 1476
WPP: 135
Location: moral high ground
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| Squeak2k2 wrote: |
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4d, 9h, 5s ]
Squeak2k2 bets [100].
GAISfan raises [300].
Briar1108 folds.
favenn folds.
tomota01 folds.
Squeak2k2 raises [600].
favenn: balls
GAISfan calls [400].
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Rad,
Come on? I don't think the pot was exactly handed to him. Look at this flop betting.... If you are in GAISfan's position, what would you do with a pair of 9's and a Q kicker? Would you not be concerned that just maybe Squeak2k2 has an overpair? Or maybe hit trips on something? I know it's easy to say that knowing what Squeak actually had, but come on, look at the betting. Even if it wasn't played 100% perfectly preflop, this guy got lucky on the river, no question. |
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Posted: Mon, 29 Nov 2004, 4:34pm Post subject: Re: Squeak's Bad Beat of the Day #3
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Full House
Joined: 11 Oct 2004
Posts: 1116
WPP: 67
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| FlyingSaucerAttack wrote: | | Squeak2k2 wrote: |
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4d, 9h, 5s ]
Squeak2k2 bets [100].
GAISfan raises [300].
Briar1108 folds.
favenn folds.
tomota01 folds.
Squeak2k2 raises [600].
favenn: balls
GAISfan calls [400].
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Rad,
Come on? I don't think the pot was exactly handed to him. Look at this flop betting.... If you are in GAISfan's position, what would you do with a pair of 9's and a Q kicker? Would you not be concerned that just maybe Squeak2k2 has an overpair? Or maybe hit trips on something? I know it's easy to say that knowing what Squeak actually had, but come on, look at the betting. Even if it wasn't played 100% perfectly preflop, this guy got lucky on the river, no question. |
I have to agree with flying sauces on this one, yes its true that the bet pre flop could have been bigger but the guy got lucky on the river no question about it.
-anto |
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Posted: Mon, 29 Nov 2004, 4:39pm Post subject:
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Flush
Joined: 07 Sep 2004
Posts: 522
WPP: 83
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| yeah he got lucky on the river, but preflop determined this hand, after the guy caught his kicker as top pair he wasn't gonna fold out. |
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Posted: Mon, 29 Nov 2004, 4:44pm Post subject:
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Strike 3
Joined: 07 Jul 2004
Posts: 3289
WPP: 119
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| I hate KK, so badly that I tend to overbet it. I would've pushed to as much as 100 preflop. |
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Posted: Mon, 29 Nov 2004, 5:31pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 11 Oct 2004
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| Radashack wrote: | | yeah he got lucky on the river, but preflop determined this hand, after the guy caught his kicker as top pair he wasn't gonna fold out. |
Isnt this the reason people slow play top pair, so someone can hit TP and continue betting even though they are beat??...
I think this was pretty unlucky because the guy was beat and pott comitted, he just got lucky on the river Rad, its as simple as that.
Slowplaying cowboys isnt advisable, but he should have come on top anyways
-anto |
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Posted: Mon, 29 Nov 2004, 5:35pm Post subject:
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LAME HUMOR THAT MAKES FISH LAUGH
Joined: 28 Sep 2004
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Location: This room is a good place to be
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There was no missplay here. He lead him on a bit and got all the money in as the favorite. If you can't gamble as the favortie, when can you?
It just sucks to be Squeak when all the cards have fallen.
-'rilla |
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Posted: Mon, 29 Nov 2004, 6:13pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 08 Oct 2004
Posts: 1349
WPP: 59
Location: Oklahoma City, OK
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You raised preflop to 40 yea chips are early he has 9c qc its suited. Shoulda raised bigger imo. Gotta get out the draws.
I mean 3 others called your raise pre flop. Gotta raise bigger. |
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Posted: Tue, 30 Nov 2004, 1:32pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 25 Mar 2004
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I find it hard to find the right raise amt for AA/KK at the first few levels. You bet 100 probably no callers. I agree with flying and elanto - for the most part a bad beat. I would have bet a bit more, maybe 50-75 unless I had a read on the table and thought I could get called for more than that
In general, I'll either raise more OR be more willing to lay down a big hand after the flop if I semi-slowplay it(not applicable to this hand obviously). |
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Posted: Tue, 30 Nov 2004, 1:42pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 14 Oct 2004
Posts: 1791
WPP: 58
Location: PEANUT BUTTER JELLY TIME
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| Are we all reading the same hand history? Squeak2k2 got this guy to put all his money in when the guy was drawing to 5 outs with 1 card to come, how is this anything but good play? |
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Posted: Tue, 30 Nov 2004, 1:44pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 08 Oct 2004
Posts: 1349
WPP: 59
Location: Oklahoma City, OK
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| TylerK wrote: | | Are we all reading the same hand history? Squeak2k2 got this guy to put all his money in when the guy was drawing to 5 outs with 1 card to come, how is this anything but good play? |
Preflop I thought was horrible Flop good Turn good unlucky on river. |
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