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Posted: Sat, 28 Jun 2008, 8:15am Post subject: Software detrimental?
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Flush
Joined: 02 Oct 2007
Posts: 560
WPP: 216
Location: England
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The benefits of tools like Poker Tracker and HUDs have been covered many times. My concern is that can they actually inhibit your poker development - such as hand reading, picking up tells/betting patterns, and climbing through the higher levels of thinking?
I'm still relatively new, been playing for about a year, but haven't developed much in these areas and don't want to become reliant on software before I have gained some skills of my own.
Info would be appreciated. |
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Posted: Sat, 28 Jun 2008, 5:26pm Post subject:
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Flush
Joined: 04 Sep 2007
Posts: 306
WPP: 145
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I'm at about the same stage as you, so I don't exactly have a deep understanding about what it takes to get "there" (wherever that is that you want to go with poker), but I expect that the software will do more harm than good for people who are lazy and expect to look at some numbers, then know what to do.
I think that as long as we treat all these stats that we have as just a piece of the puzzle we will be fine.
Of course there are times (hopefully just while we still suck) where that piece of the puzzle is more clear than most other pieces that we've identified, so this is where we rely on stats too much.
Just keep looking for the other pieces! |
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Posted: Sat, 28 Jun 2008, 6:54pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 15 Sep 2005
Posts: 3545
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Location: Collecting $eV
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| I have a real hard time remembering preflop action and it's almost impossible when multi-tabling. So knowing they're a 10/8 nit as opposed to a 75/0 station makes a huge difference. Being able to review HH also helps. The rest of the stats you can safely ignore. |
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Posted: Sun, 29 Jun 2008, 1:18am Post subject:
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Straight Flush
Joined: 18 Aug 2004
Posts: 7971
WPP: 67
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| answer depends a lot on stakes and amount of tables. at this point in your career I would guess you are better off without the HUD. I never used one until I started playing more than 4 tables. |
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Posted: Sun, 29 Jun 2008, 7:51am Post subject:
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Two Pair
Joined: 25 Jun 2008
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WPP: 111
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I dont use either as I prefer to go with reads and betting patterns.
If you play lots of tables then they must be a good tool though. |
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Posted: Mon, 30 Jun 2008, 7:45am Post subject:
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Flush
Joined: 02 Oct 2007
Posts: 560
WPP: 216
Location: England
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| Thx for the replies guys. For the record, I don't multi table more than 2 at a time. |
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Posted: Mon, 30 Jun 2008, 8:08am Post subject:
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Royal Flush
Joined: 12 Dec 2003
Posts: 18762
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Location: I'll Do You Like A Truck
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PT stats are important for picking out rocks, who would otherwise go under the radar.
Can you tell the differene between a 15/5 and a 20/15? Very different players and with all your attention focused on the 40/Xs it's easy to lose track of them. |
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Posted: Mon, 30 Jun 2008, 11:05pm Post subject:
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Flush
Joined: 02 Oct 2007
Posts: 560
WPP: 216
Location: England
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| Fnord wrote: | | PT stats are important for picking out rocks, who would otherwise go under the radar. |
Lol, at my level, a rock would stick out like a sore thumb! I can't even assign ranges due to the ludicrous hands that are played. Just yesterday, with 2 all ins already announced on a board on 10K7, a guy with Q10 threw his chips into the mix. |
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