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benthehen
Post Posted: Wed, 29 Sep 2004, 2:32am    Post subject: Silly question Reply with quote
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Is it possible to win a showdown with a 9 high?
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SteveO
Post Posted: Wed, 29 Sep 2004, 5:51am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Is this a puzzle assuming that neither you or opponent has a card higher than 9 AND the board has no card higher than 9? If that is the case, I don't think you can because one of you will pair or fill in a straight on the low board.

Eg. You have 92 your opponent has 72
Board is 3458? You either complete the straight or pair one of you.

However if the board pairs you would win in the above example you win with a better kicker but the winning hand woud be a "pair" not "high card."


However, if you play the board and there are cards higher than 9 you can with w/ a 9 high.
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Post Posted: Wed, 29 Sep 2004, 5:55am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Another silly question. What's the worst hand you can win a showdown with heads-up?
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DrNoChance
Post Posted: Wed, 29 Sep 2004, 6:07am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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10 high perhaps?

23457 board, T8 beats 98 heads up?
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Post Posted: Wed, 29 Sep 2004, 6:18am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Actually, one of the guys from my home games was up in AC last week for the US championships. In a side game, he won an $1100 pot with 9 high. I dont have all the precise details, but I do beleive him.
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Fnord
Post Posted: Wed, 29 Sep 2004, 6:34am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Board: 2AAKK

Player1: 23
Player2: 24

The 4 plays...
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stuck
Post Posted: Wed, 29 Sep 2004, 9:20am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Fnord wrote:
Board: 2AAKK

Player1: 23
Player2: 24

The 4 plays...


But that's not 4 high, that's a 4 kicker
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Post Posted: Wed, 29 Sep 2004, 9:26am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Post Posted: Wed, 29 Sep 2004, 1:32pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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fnord's question was:

"What's the worst hand you can win a showdown with heads-up?"
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LeFou
Post Posted: Thu, 30 Sep 2004, 10:55am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Not sure what Fnord's getting at:

The worst headup hand is 23, but of course you can win with it. Anyone want to rephrase?

9 high win doesn't seem possible

1: 23
2: 24

Board would have to be
5689T
or
5789T
in order not to have a pair or straight

A nine high split could happen
1:23
2:23

B: 45789
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Krapp
Post Posted: Thu, 30 Sep 2004, 1:26pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Fnord wrote:
Another silly question. What's the worst hand you can win a showdown with heads-up?


I guess the worst possible hand to win with would be a 10-high. You would need to hold
Five of Clubs Three of Spades

and the board would need to be
Ten of Diamonds Nine of Spades Eight of Hearts Seven of Diamonds Four of Clubs

The opp would need to hold
Three of Hearts Two of Spades
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benthehen
Post Posted: Fri, 01 Oct 2004, 3:20am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I thought it was impossible to win with a nine high, but it is possible. I think there is only one case of it, so this is what Steve's friend had (except for the suit).

Player 1:
Nine of Clubs Six of Diamonds

Player 2:
Nine of Hearts Five of Hearts

Board:
Two of Hearts Three of Clubs Four of Spades Seven of Clubs Eight of Spades

Yeah I like wasting my time over useless facts...
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Post Posted: Wed, 27 Oct 2004, 8:42pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Wow i never even thought of that. I guess the worst possible hand in holdem would be 2-3-4-5-7-8-9 (all seven cards)
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Humphrind
Post Posted: Thu, 28 Oct 2004, 7:00am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Related question:

What's the lowest nut hand possible?
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melinda27
Post Posted: Thu, 28 Oct 2004, 11:43am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Humphrind wrote:
Related question:

What's the lowest nut hand possible?


QQ?

23 78 Q board


this is of course assuming the question isnt referring to like you have a pair of 2's and flop quad 2's, or you have 23 of diamonds and flop the straight flush.
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Post Posted: Thu, 28 Oct 2004, 11:55am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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melinda27 wrote:

QQ?

23 78 Q board


this is of course assuming the question isnt referring to like you have a pair of 2's and flop quad 2's, or you have 23 of diamonds and flop the straight flush.


i think this is probably the lowest nut hand. you can't have a pair, because any pocket pair beats you. can't have 2 pair because it's possible they have trips. so for the lowest nut hand trip Qs is pretty good haha.
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elanto
Post Posted: Thu, 28 Oct 2004, 1:26pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Wow, I would have never believed that the worst hand in poker is a nine high. I was more surprissed on the worst nut flush, never really thought that out, but I really think that the worst nut hand is a set of queens, then your absolutely sure you have the best hand if th board comes ou

23 78 Q

and you have pocket queens. No hand can beat you..

Now i have a question.. Whats the worst hand in Omaha Hi/Low
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Buxx
Post Posted: Tue, 02 Nov 2004, 12:59am    Post subject: Worst OmahaHL hand Reply with quote
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thats a tough one, the hand that ends up being the worst is actually a pretty good hand. Jack high. 2345 with a 789TJ board.

The worst starting hand is of course, quad deuces, save that one for holdem.

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