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Posted: Fri, 15 Dec 2006, 3:25pm Post subject: ShortStacked Begineers Picks
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3-of-a-Kind
Joined: 15 Dec 2006
Posts: 53
WPP: 64
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We'll I'm new here, but I've been reading what you have guys have been posting. I'm here to post what I'm doing. I'd also like mention that with the position I have myself in and what I'm doing is EXTREMELY HIGH-RISK. I have a horrible bank roll. I start myself off with $20 and now I've managed to get myself up to $59.
I understand you should only bet with 0.5% to 5% of your bankroll however I bet with 10%-50% of my bank roll at one time. This is why I'm partly here to learn and post as to what I'm doing.
I'm also a moneyline type of guy. Currently my money is in sportsbetting.com. I'm looking to change to pinnacle as they seem to have better odds for me. I'm also going to say that I dont want to make gambling a passive income more of a fun thing to do. Thats why when I transfer to pinnacle I will take $30 out of my total with $20 being my initial deposit. Made $10 yeah! As for my begining hobby in this I'm happy. A penny earned is a penny made to me right now. Not into high stakes yet, but I'd love to get there with my profited bankroll.
I'm also curious to hear what others have to say about what I've done. Maybe some thoughts on why it works/doesnt work. My betting patterns tend to be conservative and I make the occasion risky bet. I would not recommend doing as I do as maybe I've gotten lucky. But if you chose to follow my picks don't get mad if you lose some.
Ill post my picks later today after my last final.
Cavaliers(Cleveland) -360
Nuggets(Denver) -150
1-1 nuggets didn't pull threw like I thought they would. |
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Posted: Sat, 16 Dec 2006, 12:33pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush
Joined: 05 Jul 2006
Posts: 4923
WPP: 81
Location: Pwnsylvania
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Welcome to the forum!!
Other than that I don't have much to say other than if you want to get respect for yourself and your picks from the other people in SB forum that you should properly BR yourself and not write contradictory posts as the one above. No pick is conservative if it's for 1/2 your roll. Im assuming that's what you did on last night's games, 10 bucks on each. Haven't seen the results of those games but it's typically a better practice in the NBA to m/l the underdogs not the favorites.
Good luck and welcome again
'spenda |
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Posted: Sat, 16 Dec 2006, 1:09pm Post subject:
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3-of-a-Kind
Joined: 15 Dec 2006
Posts: 53
WPP: 64
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Thanks for the reply. I'm actually using $5s as my standard bet. I won one of the two last night, which is bad, but apparently the nuggets couldnt hold them.
Pistons(Detroit) -1.5
Suns(Phoenix) -140
Mavericks(Dallas) -360
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Posted: Sat, 16 Dec 2006, 1:28pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 02 Mar 2006
Posts: 3322
WPP: 85
Location: practicing mindfulness
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There can be value in playing moneyline favorites, but with such a small roll you won't be making much money. I mean, tonight you're betting $5 on Dallas to win $1.38, right? I'm not saying you don't have an edge on that bet, I have no idea, just that you're risking a large portion of your BR to win a tiny bit of money.
Have you thought about Bonus whoring (casino & poker) to increase your roll so that you can afford to make $5 plays? In any case, BOL to you.
BTW, I really like the Pistons tonight. I'll be on that too. |
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Posted: Sat, 16 Dec 2006, 7:38pm Post subject:
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3-of-a-Kind
Joined: 15 Dec 2006
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WPP: 64
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| zook wrote: | There can be value in playing moneyline favorites, but with such a small roll you won't be making much money. I mean, tonight you're betting $5 on Dallas to win $1.38, right? I'm not saying you don't have an edge on that bet, I have no idea, just that you're risking a large portion of your BR to win a tiny bit of money.
Have you thought about Bonus whoring (casino & poker) to increase your roll so that you can afford to make $5 plays? In any case, BOL to you.
BTW, I really like the Pistons tonight. I'll be on that too. |
Yes I do realize the value of playing moneyline favorites. Sadly like you see with the dallas game tonight you don't win a lot, but I've found I tend to win more than lose so I'm not stopping that. You are correct I wont be making much money either. I'm not here to strike it rich just here to keep building the BR, safely ( if gambling can even be called that).
I have heard of Bonus whoring I just figured it was a lot easier to do with poker than sports betting, but I'll look into that link. Thank you.
Edit: on the Bonus whoring subject how is that done? Just jump from site to use till I use up the Bonus then move to another one? The link you gave me just goes to the poker bonuses?
I also like the pistons tonight. I've been watching your picks and they seem to be pretty stable. I just don't have as much money as you to put up to six games a night. Thanks for the suggestions. |
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Posted: Sat, 16 Dec 2006, 7:53pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 02 Mar 2006
Posts: 3322
WPP: 85
Location: practicing mindfulness
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| Sorry, that link is automatic every time you type "Bonus" at this site. If I type it with a zero, then no link: B0nus. Yeah, I meant poker Bonus whoring, not Sportsbook Bonus whoring. Sportsbook bonuses are a lot harder to clear than poker bonuses. You do play online poker, right? Hard to imagine you'd end up at this site if you didn't. |
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Posted: Sat, 16 Dec 2006, 8:04pm Post subject:
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3-of-a-Kind
Joined: 15 Dec 2006
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WPP: 64
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| zook wrote: | | Sorry, that link is automatic every time you type "Bonus" at this site. If I type it with a zero, then no link: B0nus. Yeah, I meant poker Bonus whoring, not Sportsbook Bonus whoring. Sportsbook bonuses are a lot harder to clear than poker bonuses. You do play online poker, right? Hard to imagine you'd end up at this site if you didn't. |
So Id deposit my money into a site and the move it all over to my cash account using poker? Then I withdraw and do it over again? |
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Posted: Sat, 16 Dec 2006, 8:28pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 02 Mar 2006
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Location: practicing mindfulness
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| You'd stop betting sports for awhile and play poker or blackjack instead until you build your roll up enough to bet sports comfortably (risking 1-2%). You'd deposit as much $ as you're comfortable gambling with at a poker/casino site, play until you clear the Bonus, then cash out, deposit at a different site, rinse, repeat. I'm not up on on the best bonuses at the moment, but casino bonuses usually clear faster. If you're a decent poker player though, you can make money in addition to the Bonus by grinding away at the microlimit tables. FTR has some good info on poker bonuses (I think Prima might be best right now?) and casinobonuswhores.com and beatingbonuses.com are decent sites but always read the Terms & Conditions at the websites before you deposit and make sure they match what the sites tell you. euphoricism has a thread in the Poker Etcetera forum in which he talks about some casino whoring. And I think bigspenda's done some recently too. |
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Posted: Sun, 17 Dec 2006, 2:13pm Post subject:
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3-of-a-Kind
Joined: 15 Dec 2006
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WPP: 64
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Parlay (2 Teams)
Broncos(Denver) -150
Chargers(SanDiego) -400
Lakers(LA) -235
well 1-1 for the night. Lakers couldn't stop the momentum that WASH. threw down that night, but they did try hard. |
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Posted: Mon, 18 Dec 2006, 9:08pm Post subject:
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3-of-a-Kind
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Mavericks(Dallas) -175
Wizards(Washington) -175
1-1 apparently the wizards couldn't handle nuggets team without there better players even after the destruction over LA. Shows the inconsistency in the team. |
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Posted: Mon, 18 Dec 2006, 9:21pm Post subject:
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Starfleet's Finest
Joined: 23 Feb 2005
Posts: 2081
WPP: 113
Location: The University of TEXAS at Austin
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| If you're going to bet on NFL favorites, just lay the points. The points matter so few times, it's ridiculous. Rather than get your measly payout tha tyou got on DEN and SD, you could have gotten +275 at reduced juice with BetTrojan or +260 with any other book. |
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Posted: Tue, 19 Dec 2006, 2:52am Post subject:
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3-of-a-Kind
Joined: 15 Dec 2006
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| ensign_lee wrote: | | If you're going to bet on NFL favorites, just lay the points. The points matter so few times, it's ridiculous. Rather than get your measly payout tha tyou got on DEN and SD, you could have gotten +275 at reduced juice with BetTrojan or +260 with any other book. |
Thanks for pointing that out. I'm starting to notice that more and more the teams either win big or not at all especially with the favorites.
also right now my current goal is to hit $250 and then move to pinnacle as sportsbetting is a crappy bookie. |
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Posted: Tue, 19 Dec 2006, 3:36am Post subject:
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Straight Flush
Joined: 05 Jul 2006
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Location: Pwnsylvania
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| $250, what's your roll at? That could be a long grind if you're gonna be m/l favorites forever. |
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Posted: Tue, 19 Dec 2006, 9:04pm Post subject:
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3-of-a-Kind
Joined: 15 Dec 2006
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| bigspenda73 wrote: | | $250, what's your roll at? That could be a long grind if you're gonna be m/l favorites forever. |
my roll is at 60 right now. I've tripled it in two months. Hopefully it keeps going up. Luckily I'm also a patient man.
This is for 12/21
Pistons(Detroit) +3
Kings(Sacramento) -180 |
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Posted: Fri, 22 Dec 2006, 11:51am Post subject:
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3-of-a-Kind
Joined: 15 Dec 2006
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Blazers(Portland) -165
Lakers(LA) +130
5.00/9.77
Jazz(Utah) -280
Pacers(Indiana) -135
Spurs(SanAntonio) -400
Wizards(Washington) +10.5 (-105)
note to self to never do parlays esp. not three team ones. |
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Posted: Sat, 23 Dec 2006, 7:18pm Post subject:
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3-of-a-Kind
Joined: 15 Dec 2006
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Hawks(Atlanta) +10.5
Warriors(GoldenState) +6
agreed with zook
Warriors(GoldenState) +200 hopefully this ill be covered by the line if they lose by 6 or less
Pacers(Indiana) -190 |
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Posted: Sun, 24 Dec 2006, 3:23am Post subject:
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3-of-a-Kind
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Colts(Indianapolis) -440
Bengals(Cincinnati) +145
0-4 this night wasn't good. |
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Posted: Sun, 24 Dec 2006, 4:08am Post subject:
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Straight Flush
Joined: 05 Jul 2006
Posts: 4923
WPP: 81
Location: Pwnsylvania
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| running BR total would be nice Short |
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Posted: Sun, 24 Dec 2006, 6:12pm Post subject:
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3-of-a-Kind
Joined: 15 Dec 2006
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| bigspenda73 wrote: | | running BR total would be nice Short |
alright will do. I'll start that in '07 with my spreadsheet that I plan on doing too.
Lakers(LA) +1 (-115)
If the laker's don't win I'm going back to poker to get some more winnings. |
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Posted: Mon, 25 Dec 2006, 11:55pm Post subject:
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3-of-a-Kind
Joined: 15 Dec 2006
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Well guys. The lakers didn't pull out today as I thought they would. This left my BR at $21.57. I cashed out. I realize I'm probably not very respected here, but I still like this as it allows me to talk to myself.
I have some Bonus whoring I did at Bodog, I just need to play some more poker to get my poker points up. Hopefully I can move some money around and get back into this.
At one point my BR hit $72.45. The lowest it went was $21.57 where I cashed out a dollar ahead.
I think I have $40 that I can put back into this soon. At least I hope so. I realize that my BR isn't too big but I can't say I've ever lost in my streaks. Sadly I don't last seasons as I refuse to go negative.
With my next run I'll also post my YTD record which this time around I didn't.
Happy Holidays! |
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Posted: Tue, 26 Dec 2006, 12:03am Post subject:
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Straight Flush
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Short, I really do not know what to tell you. It's hard to build a bankroll betting m/l favorites. First of all, you played that Lakers line way too soon. You picked it over a day in advance. So much can change. Had you waited you might have come across Lee's post on the wicked line movement in the game. Tell you this, when Lee goes "WTF" I listen.
I'll admit I do not know much about sportsbetting but I have properly bankrolled myself and am up about 25 units overall. I would suggest next time you start back up that you analyze these games better, look at public money, line moves, public perception, etc...
By putting in the time and effort and not just looking at a game and going "hey, that looks good to me" you earn the respect it seems you would like. |
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Posted: Tue, 26 Dec 2006, 5:15pm Post subject:
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3-of-a-Kind
Joined: 15 Dec 2006
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| bigspenda73 wrote: | Short, I really do not know what to tell you. It's hard to build a bankroll betting m/l favorites. First of all, you played that Lakers line way too soon. You picked it over a day in advance. So much can change. Had you waited you might have come across Lee's post on the wicked line movement in the game. Tell you this, when Lee goes "WTF" I listen.
I'll admit I do not know much about sportsbetting but I have properly bankrolled myself and am up about 25 units overall. I would suggest next time you start back up that you analyze these games better, look at public money, line moves, public perception, etc...
By putting in the time and effort and not just looking at a game and going "hey, that looks good to me" you earn the respect it seems you would like. |
I'm not here to earn respect so much as earn money. But obviously if your earning money your probably respected. I have been looking at covers.com and now I'm try to familiarize myself with all the new stuff to this. I just need to learn how to understand the information.
I always bet early because I figured that the public doesn't know whats best. They just bet on whatever they want. The bookie then changes there odds if one gets too much. IE the public favors one side. That doesn't mean that the team will win or lose anymore than before so I just assumed the public movement doesn't mean much. I'm still unsure how it should? Are you saying you rely and trust the publics decisions?
right now I'm working with "play money'. I'm just writing down my bets and seeing the results. Trying to learn more and figure out the whole statistical side to all of this. |
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Posted: Tue, 26 Dec 2006, 5:44pm Post subject:
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Starfleet's Finest
Joined: 23 Feb 2005
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Location: The University of TEXAS at Austin
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Hey shortstacked. Sorry I haven't had a chance to reply too much in your threads. Don't get too down; we all run into rough patches. And if it's better for your pysche to cash out, then by all means do so. Better to keep the money you earned than lose money, right? 
As far as learning, DON'T GO TO COVERS!!! That is one of the worst places I know of to learn. They feed you blatant misinformation and their articles are (to say the least) pieces of crap. Honestly, I sometimes think that they post things to encourage their users to lose (as they work off of affiliate fees). DO NOT LEARN SPORTSBETTING AT COVERS!!!
As for betting early, that's up to everyone's discretion. Personally, I find I get completely owned on all my 'first impulses', picking like a sorry 20-30% (indeed it would probably be better to fade my 'early leans'  ). However, maybe picking early works for you. I know at least a few handicappers w | |
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