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Posted: Sat, 15 Dec 2007, 9:05pm Post subject: [40bb] Session review with Eupho
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4-of-a-Kind
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I hope someone reads this, as I explain my thought process in every hand, and I could really use thoughts on them. Theres not a whole lot of in-depth stuff to cover here and no real brutal hard decisions to make, so you can skim these pretty quick. Please do.
I obviously deleted the original text file so I cant look up stats on people, so I guess we'll assume villains are all unknowns. It probably doesn't really matter much, our hands really play themselves a lot.
Note: This is every hand (except a few that i missed, i know theres like three) that I shoved my stack in. Not all of them went to showdown, but the majority certainly did.
Hand #1
I usually just bet and hope to get called here on the turn. But I think a c/rai is better. If he's a bluffer, let him bluff. If hes calling lightly, he'll bet when he hit. Its obvious he doesnt have the Q, so I gotta give him rope to hang himself.
River is interesting. A slightly under half-pot bet which I'm not sure I like as it looks too much like I'm begging for a call. Of course at this point villain either has a hand and he'll call or he doesnt and he folds. So I should probably make a real bet. It worked out, though
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BB: $56.60
UTG: $10.00
MP: $34.05
CO: $56.80
Button: $36.20
SB: $10.90
Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q , Q
Hero raises to $1.50, MP folds, CO folds, Button calls $1.50, SB folds, BB folds.
Flop: ($3.35) Q , 4 , 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $2, Button calls $2.
Turn: ($7.35) A (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.
River: ($7.35) 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $3, Button raises to $6, Hero raises to $6.50 (all in), Button calls $0.50.
Final Pot: $20.35
Results:
Hero shows Qs, Qh (a full house, Queens full of Fours).
Button shows 8d, 4d (three of a kind, Fours).
Outcome: Hero wins $19.35.
($1.00 Rake)
Hand #2
Standard. Villain rarely has a J, he *might* have an 8, but he's in the SB. More likely he was calling drawing near dead on the flop hoping to bluff me off my hand. Which is retarded because I have no money behind, but they do it *A LOT* anyway. But with a 3rd J up there gig is up. Might have been better to c/rai? Thoughts?
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UTG: $25.50
CO: $9.05
Button: $24.90
SB: $23.85
BB: $10.00
Preflop: Hero is BB with Q, A
UTG folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB calls $0.15, Hero raises to $1.50, SB calls $1.25.
Flop: ($3.00) J, J, 8 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2, SB calls $2.
Turn: ($7.00) J (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $6.50 (all in), SB folds.
Final Pot: $7.00
Results:
Hero mucks Qs, As.
Outcome: Hero wins $6.65.
($0.34 Rake)
Hand #3
This is a standard move for me, supported by the math which you can find in one of Fnords posts about Stack-to-Pot ratios (might be in the halfstacking thread, now I cant remember) so anyway you'll see this shove a lot. Basically if my stack is 2x pot on the flop (and i tailor my bet sizes so that it is) I will shove with overcards into one opponent particularly when the board is dry and I expect to have a bit of folding equity.
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UTG: $66.10
MP: $29.20
CO: $24.65
Button: $15.20
SB: $12.35
BB: $10.10
Preflop: Hero is BB with J, A
UTG calls $0.25, MP folds, CO folds, Button calls $0.25, SB calls $0.15, Hero raises to $2, UTG folds, Button calls $1.75, SB folds.
Flop: ($4.50) T, 3, 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $8.10 (all in), Button folds.
Final Pot: $4.50
Results:
Hero mucks Jd, Ah.
Outcome: Hero wins $4.30.
($0.20 Rake)
Hand #4
I hate AJ. A lot. In *theory*, I'm winning due to the fundamental theory of poker (if you look at his hand at the bottom you can see villain should have reraised me pre, because he just won't flop a hand very often) so I think this is +EV for me. In theory when villain misses here I take the pot, and he misses a huge % of the time.
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CO: $10.30
Button: $22.00
SB: $24.40
BB: $10.50
UTG: $40.15
MP: $24.75
Preflop: Hero is CO with J, A
UTG folds, MP folds, Hero raises to $1.25, Button folds, SB calls $1.15, BB calls $1.
Flop: ($3.75) 3, 5, A (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $3.75, SB calls $3.75, BB folds.
Turn: ($11.25) 2 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $5.30 (all in), SB calls $5.30.
River: ($21.85) Q (2 players)
Final Pot: $21.85
Results:
Hero shows Jc, As (a pair of Aces).
SB shows Qc, Ac (two pair, Aces and Queens).
Outcome: SB wins $20.80.
($1.05 Rake)
Hand #5
Standard. Theres almost no one I would consider folding AK to at these stakes.Trunc'd the hand history because coinflips aren't important.
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Button: $25.00
SB: $11.85
BB: $24.55
UTG: $55.15
MP: $40.05
CO: $12.20
Preflop: Hero is CO with A, K
MP raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $2.75, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, MP raises to $40.05 (all in), Hero calls $9.45 (all in).
Final Pot: $24.74
Results:
UTG doesn't show.
MP shows Jh, Js ().
Hero shows Ac, Kd ().
Outcome: ($24.74 Rake)
Hand #6
Basically same hand as above. Trunc'd
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BB: $9.40
UTG: $39.10
MP: $30.70
CO: $25.70
Button: $15.90
SB: $8.70
Preflop: Hero is BB with K, A
UTG folds, MP raises to $0.85, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, Hero raises to $2.90, MP raises to $11.75, Hero calls $6.50 (all in).
Final Pot: $18.90
Results:
Hero shows Kh, Ac ().
MP shows Qs, Qd ().
Outcome: ($18.90 Rake)
Hand #7
Shitty spot on the turn as I think I'm behind here somewhere around 99.9% of the time. But I dont think i have a choice but to go with it.
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SB: $30.55
BB: $14.50
UTG: $21.40
MP: $25.35
CO: $9.60
Button: $32.40
Preflop: Hero is CO with T, J
UTG folds, MP folds, Hero raises to $1.25, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls $1.
Flop: ($2.60) 7, K, 2 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2.60, BB calls $2.60.
Turn: ($7.80) J (2 players)
BB bets $4.25, Hero raises to $5.75 (all in), BB calls $1.50.
River: ($19.30) 2 (2 players)
Final Pot: $19.30
Results:
BB shows 2s, 2h (four of a kind, Twos).
Hero shows Ts, Js (two pair, Jacks and Twos).
Outcome: BB wins $18.35.
($0.94 Rake)
Hand #8
Blind steals and blind defense are *tough* *tought* *tough* short stacked. You have no folding equity, and villains tend to play back at you a LOT. I think I'm failing miserably at them. In any case, on the turn villains play just doesnt make much sense to me, so I go. I was wrong, sorta. His play really did make no sense.
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Button: $9.35
SB: $33.50
BB: $27.80
UTG: $28.10
MP: $10.25
CO: $20.25
Preflop: Hero is Button with 7, 7
UTG folds, MP folds, CO folds, Hero raises to $1.25, SB calls $1.15, BB folds.
Flop: ($2.75) 4, J, 4 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.
Turn: ($2.75) J (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2, SB raises to $8.75, Hero calls $6.10 (all in).
Final Pot: $18.95
Results:
Hero shows 7d, 7h (a full house, Fours full of Jacks).
SB shows Kd, Kc (a full house, Fours full of Kings).
Outcome: ($18.95 Rake)
Hand #9
Standard. Don't fold overpairs. Ni han.
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CO: $10.00
Button: $42.20
SB: $27.55
BB: $28.10
UTG: $10.25
MP: $20.25
Preflop: Hero is CO with 9, 9
UTG raises to $0.75, MP folds, Hero calls $0.75, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds.
Flop: ($1.85) 2, 4, 5 (2 players)
UTG bets $9.50 (all in), Hero calls $9.25 (all in).
Final Pot: $20.35
Results:
Hero shows 9d, 9s ().
UTG shows Jh, Jd (two pair, Jacks and Fours).
Outcome: ($20.35 Rake)
Hand #10
super standard.Note the 5x PFR, which is my standard PFR.Note that villains are still set camping me even though I have no money behind and they have no implied odds.. It sucks when they hit, but i firmly believe I'm making a lot of money off of the huge numbers of set farming microstakers. Theres just tons of them and they are -EV against me. Its gotta be +EV for me then :p
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MP: $22.25
CO: $26.45
Button: $28.50
SB: $24.90
BB: $43.00
UTG: $11.55
Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, A
Hero raises to $1.25, MP folds, CO folds, Button calls $1.25, SB folds, BB calls $1.
Flop: ($3.85) 6, Q, 4 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $3.85, Button folds, BB calls $3.85.
Turn: ($11.55) J (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $6.45 (all in), BB calls $6.45.
River: ($24.45) 4 (2 players)
Final Pot: $24.45
Results:
BB shows 8h, 8s (two pair, Eights and Fours).
Hero shows Ad, Ah (two pair, Aces and Fours).
Outcome: Hero wins $23.25.
($1.20 Rake)
Hand #11
Standard as well, but I always die a little inside doing it. I dont flip good.
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BB: $25.25
UTG: $5.15
CO: $9.95
Button: $42.95
SB: $25.00
Preflop: Hero is CO with Q, Q
UTG folds, Hero raises to $1.25, Button folds, SB raises to $4, BB folds, Hero raises to $9.95 (all in), SB calls $5.95.
Flop: ($20.15) 7, A, 5 (2 players)
Turn: ($20.15) 4 (2 players)
River: ($20.15) 6 (2 players)
Final Pot: $20.15
Results:
Hero shows Qc, Qd (a pair of Queens).
SB shows Ad, Kd (a pair of Aces).
Outcome: SB wins $19.15.
($1.00 Rake)
Hand #12
Not really an AI, but villain is even shorter than I am so i thought I should include it. Flop bet is standardish. Turn bet is standard. River is standard.
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UTG: $71.05
MP: $24.65
CO: $40.35
Button: $5.50
SB: $8.30
BB: $14.75
Preflop: Hero is BB with 8, 9
UTG folds, MP folds, CO folds, Button calls $0.25, SB calls $0.15, Hero checks.
Flop: ($0.75) 6, 7, 4 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.75, Button calls $0.75, SB folds.
Turn: ($2.25) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $2.25, Button calls $2.25.
River: ($6.75) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $6, Button calls $2.25 (all in).
Final Pot: $11.25
Results:
Button doesn't show.
Hero shows 8h, 9c (a straight, Nine high).
Outcome: ($11.25 Rake)
Hand #13
Turn is a majorly shittastic card, he either has me beat or hes folding to a bet, so I think betting is pointless. River is kinda scary too but theres nothing I can do about it.
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UTG: $25.45
MP: $10.15
CO: $25.50
Button: $33.60
SB: $62.85
BB: $22.00
Preflop: Hero is MP with J, J
UTG folds, Hero raises to $1.25, CO folds, Button folds, SB calls $1.15, BB calls $1.
Flop: ($3.75) T, J, Q (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $3, SB folds, BB calls $3.
Turn: ($9.75) K (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.
River: ($9.75) K (2 players)
BB bets $3, Hero raises to $5.90 (all in), BB calls $2.90.
Final Pot: $21.55
Results:
Hero shows Jc, Jd (a full house, Jacks full of Kings).
BB mucks Ac, 3d.
Outcome: Hero wins $20.50.
($1.05 Rake)
Hand #14
Standard. Villains love to donk pot with TP hands against me. Like "OMG PLEASE FOLD". Then you shove... and they call anyway.
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SB: $20.00
BB: $43.60
UTG: $25.00
MP: $25.00
CO: $8.40
Button: $25.15
Preflop: Hero is CO with A, A
MP folds, Hero raises to $1.25, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls $1.
Flop: ($2.60) 2, 5, 8 (2 players)
BB bets $2.25, Hero raises to $7.15 (all in), BB calls $4.90.
Turn: ($16.90) 4 (2 players)
River: ($16.90) Q (2 players)
Final Pot: $16.90
Results:
BB shows 6d, 8s (a pair of Eights).
UTG doesn't show.
Hero shows Ac, As (a pair of Aces).
Outcome: Hero wins $16.10.
($0.80 Rake)
Hand #15
Standard. I get in some interesting spots with pocket pairs that probably border on -EV. I really need to think on. If I have a 40bb stack... can I really call a 4x PFR? Its exactly 10x, and I'm 8:1 to flop a set... but do I get paid enough? I think I do... maybe.. IDK. Spots like this where I limp after a limper are +EV, until someone raises after me. And then I probably start taking the worst of it, and it becomes a question of how much overlay there is. IDK. Maybe I'm leakinghere. Thoughts?
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Button: $10.80
SB: $91.55
BB: $22.40
UTG: $34.15
CO: $30.05
Preflop: Hero is Button with 7, 7
UTG calls $0.25, CO folds, Hero calls $0.25, SB calls $0.15, BB raises to $1.25, UTG folds, Hero calls $1, SB calls $1.
Flop: ($4.00) 6, 7, 8 (3 players)
SB checks, BB bets $4, Hero raises to $9.55 (all in), SB folds, BB calls $5.55.
Turn: ($23.10) 6 (2 players)
River: ($23.10) K (2 players)
Final Pot: $23.10
Results:
Hero shows 7c, 7d (a full house, Sevens full of Sixes).
BB shows As, Ac (two pair, Aces and Sixes).
Outcome: Hero wins $21.95.
($1.15 Rake)
Hand #16
Another trunc'd flip.
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BB: $27.30
UTG: $30.40
CO: $26.55
Button: $9.60
SB: $27.05
Preflop: Hero is Button with Q, Q
UTG folds, CO raises to $0.85, Hero raises to $3, SB folds, BB calls $2.75, CO raises to $26.55 (all in), Hero calls $6.60 (all in), BB folds.
Final Pot: $22.30
Results:
CO shows Ad, Kh ().
Hero shows Qs, Qd ().
Outcome: ($22.30 Rake)
Hand #17
another trunc'd flip
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CO: $34.45
Button: $11.65
SB: $23.55
BB: $9.90
UTG: $3.20
Preflop: Hero is BB with K, A
UTG folds, CO folds, Button calls $0.25, SB raises to $1, Hero raises to $3.50, Button folds, SB raises to $10.75, Hero calls $6.40 (all in).
Final Pot: $20.05
Results:
SB shows Qs, Qc ().
Hero shows Ks, Ac ().
Outcome: ($20.05 Rake)
Hand #18
Shitty spot. If I had KQ this would be an insta insta insta call. But KT is pretty bad. I figure since the board is drawish, villains play seems overtly strong like he really wants me to fold, that this is OK. I dont think I can ever really fold top pair against the blinds. It just seems like a bad idea because people seem to love to play chicken in blind situations, and as fnord said, I've thrown out the steering wheel.
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CO: $9.85
Button: $40.35
SB: $40.25
BB: $23.30
UTG: $13.45
MP: $26.30
Preflop: Hero is CO with T, K
UTG folds, MP folds, Hero raises to $1, Button folds, SB folds, BB calls $0.75.
Flop: ($2.10) J, 3, K (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2.10, BB raises to $22.30 (all in), Hero calls $6.75 (all in).
Final Pot: $19.80
Results:
Hero shows Ts, Ks ().
BB shows Ad, Kc (a pair of Kings).
Outcome: ($19.80 Rake)
Hand #19
Getting to the edge of EV here with JJ. I dont think I have a whole lot of choice in the matter, but its still a crappy feeling, heh.
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MP: $34.80
CO: $11.00
Button: $31.40
SB: $26.95
BB: $9.30
UTG: $4.70
Preflop: Hero is BB with J, J
UTG calls $0.25, MP raises to $1.30, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, Hero raises to $3.60, UTG folds, MP raises to $11.15, Hero calls $5.70 (all in).
Final Pot: $18.95
Results:
MP shows Qh, Ad ().
Hero shows Jd, Js ().
Outcome: ($18.95 Rake)
Hand #20
Owned.
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Button: $10.05
SB: $28.25
BB: $49.10
UTG: $10.00
MP: $15.95
CO: $26.95
Preflop: Hero is Button with K, K
MP calls $0.25, CO raises to $1.25, Hero raises to $3.50, SB folds, BB folds, MP folds, CO raises to $14, Hero calls $6.55 (all in).
Final Pot: $20.70
Results:
Hero shows Kc, Kh ().
UTG doesn't show.
CO shows Jc, Jh ().
Outcome: ($20.70 Rake)
Hand #21
This doesnt really need to be here, but for sake of completeness. I wasnt AI, villain was. Note again shitty players trying to set camp me, then throwing good money after bad. Holla.
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Button: $43.20
SB: $10.75
BB: $26.85
UTG: $10.25
CO: $4.80
Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, A
Hero raises to $1.25, CO calls $1.25, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds.
Flop: ($2.85) 9, 5, 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $2.85, CO raises to $3.55 (all in), Hero calls $0.70.
Turn: ($9.95) Q (2 players)
River: ($9.95) 5 (2 players)
Final Pot: $9.95
Results:
Hero shows Ah, Ac (a full house, Fives full of Aces).
CO shows 6c, 6d (a full house, Fives full of Sixes).
Outcome: Hero wins $9.50.
($0.44 Rake)
Hand #22
Blind steals and I just do not get along. This one worked out for me, and I'm thankful the guy only minraised me pre. Any larger and i think I have to fold. IDK. I really need help in blind steal / defense situations, so if someone has words of wisdom, please share.
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UTG: $24.05
CO: $7.25
Button: $9.70
SB: $23.10
BB: $39.80
Preflop: Hero is Button with K, Q
UTG folds, CO folds, Hero raises to $1.25, SB raises to $2.25, BB folds, Hero calls $1.
Flop: ($4.75) 2, K, T (2 players)
SB bets $2, Hero raises to $7.45 (all in), SB calls $5.45.
Turn: ($19.65) 5 (2 players)
River: ($19.65) A (2 players)
Final Pot: $19.65
Results:
Hero shows Kc, Qc (a pair of Kings).
SB shows Qh, Qs (a pair of Queens).
Outcome: Hero wins $18.70.
($0.94 Rake)
Hand #23
And more super standard. I'm not sure my 3bet shove is the greatest, but I figure villain might be drawing on this wet board, and I dont want to give him a free cheap ride when shitty players seem to LOVE to pay too much for draws. So shoveadoodles it is.
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MP: $41.15
CO: $14.45
Button: $19.65
SB: $24.85
BB: $10.35
UTG: $14.25
Preflop: Hero is BB with 3, 9
UTG folds, MP folds, CO calls $0.25, Button folds, SB folds, Hero checks.
Flop: ($0.60) 7, 9, 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.60, CO raises to $2, Hero raises to $10.10 (all in), CO calls $8.10.
Turn: ($20.80) 6 (2 players)
River: ($20.80) 3 (2 players)
Final Pot: $20.80
Results:
CO shows 8c, 9s (two pair, Nines and Threes).
Hero shows 3d, 9c (a full house, Threes full of Nines).
Outcome: Hero wins $19.80.
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Posted: Sat, 15 Dec 2007, 9:43pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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Hand 1: River is only important street here imo. I think it's fine, albeit I'd likely play a larger bet on the river.
Hand 2: I feel rather uncertain about this one. I don't know of any better hands we push off of a hand with our turn bet, so maybe check and consider a call on the river?
Hand 3: Standard I think.
Hand 4: Theorem not theory. Standard I think also.
Hand 5: Easy call.
Hand 6: Again, easy call.
Hand 7: Call > shove here I think.
Hand 8: As played I fold to raise on turn. Nothing makes this raise that you beat imo. Personally I'd value bet flop.
Hand 9: Standard
Hand 10: Standard
Hand 11: Standard
Hand 12: Dunno why you even post some of these
Hand 13: Standard -- you're correct about the turn
Hand 14: Standard wtf I'm bored
Hand 15: If I counted it right, you're getting slightly over 12:1 on your stack and current pot which makes the call fine against this raise out of the blinds I think. P.S. It's 7.5:1, not 8:1 
Hand 16: Standard
Hand 17: Standard
Hand 18: I couldn't find a fold here.
Hand 19: Easy call given the pot size.
Hand 20: Brag
Hand 21: Another easy lame AA hand
Hand 22: Standard
Hand 23: Standard |
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Posted: Sun, 16 Dec 2007, 3:54am Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 03 Mar 2005
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WPP: 85
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| Hand 2: Why can't villain have (and call with) a small/mid pair? |
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Posted: Sun, 30 Dec 2007, 3:06pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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| sejje wrote: | | Hand 2: Why can't villain have (and call with) a small/mid pair? |
He can but it's kind of irrelevant. |
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Posted: Sun, 30 Dec 2007, 4:05pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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guess i'll take a stab and see how far/close i am with others.
hand 1: bet turn. as played river bet size is fine.
hand 2: looks fine.
hand 3: horrible raise preflop, i'd rather do it with 65s.
hand 4: standard
hand 5: standard
hand 6: standard only cuz you're so short
hand 7: standard
hand 8: cbet.
hand 9: 3bet preflop.
hand 10: standard.
hand 11: standard.
hand 12: meh
hand 13: i like
hand 14: standard
hand 15: raise preflop. rest standard
hand 16: standard only cuz you're so short
hand 17: standard only cuz you're so short
hand 18: reads would be helpful here.
hand 19: standard only cuz you're so short
hand 20: why did you even post this hand?
hand 21: or this one?
hand 22: looks ok, i call the flop cbet a lot and go from there.
hand 23: looks ok. |
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Posted: Sun, 30 Dec 2007, 4:09pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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euph, you should really post some hands where you DON'T get it all in. as a short stack, when all the money goes in the middle, you're never really that far behind once you take ranges vs ranges and stacks vs stacks.
you should filter for pots where it was around 20-30bb and see how you do there. |
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Posted: Sun, 30 Dec 2007, 5:44pm Post subject:
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| |~|ypermegachi wrote: | euph, you should really post some hands where you DON'T get it all in. as a short stack, when all the money goes in the middle, you're never really that far behind once you take ranges vs ranges and stacks vs stacks.
you should filter for pots where it was around 20-30bb and see how you do there. |
Who's that chick in your avatar? |
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Posted: Sun, 30 Dec 2007, 6:23pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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| spoonitnow wrote: | | |~|ypermegachi wrote: | euph, you should really post some hands where you DON'T get it all in. as a short stack, when all the money goes in the middle, you're never really that far behind once you take ranges vs ranges and stacks vs stacks.
you should filter for pots where it was around 20-30bb and see how you do there. |
Who's that chick in your avatar? |
maria ozawa. NSFW if you google her. |
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Posted: Mon, 31 Dec 2007, 2:14pm Post subject:
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Royal Flush
Joined: 12 Dec 2003
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WPP: 81
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8: Bet the flop and call a shove.
9: Not standard
12: I shove the turn, I think your bet sizes are tipping hand strength too often.
13: I would shove the turn here as well |
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Posted: Mon, 31 Dec 2007, 2:19pm Post subject:
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Royal Flush
Joined: 12 Dec 2003
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Location: I'll Do You Like A Truck
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