Renton's 400NL 6max Videos

Renton recorded a session of 400NL in two parts and submitted it recently to our Poker Video Library. Check out the videos, please be sure to rate them in your review and post further comments in this topic.

$400 NL 6-Max 2-Table with Renton 1
$400 NL 6-Max 2-Table with Renton 2

sweet

looking forward to it.

When were these videos recorded?

i disagree w/ over 50% of the decisions made in this video, i wouldnt recommend anyone watch it for educational value.

sorry if im coming off as a dick but i have to speak my mind.

I'd take that as a compliment.

Haven't watched the vids yet though.

nutsinho should do a vid it'd be way better than this joker.

There were a lot of calls/raises/moves that I didn't agree with here. The biggest one I could think of was the "value" raise on the river against a donk on the K9Qxx board with AQ. I thought that was terrible.

i have made a video, ill make another.

i agree we shouldn't be trashing on anyone making videos, and i thought that i had posted that the effort was appreciated. i dont generally do it for free but i will since i think i screwed up and want to correct my mistake, so i'll go back through it and comment on the what i disagree w/ and why.

also i apologize to renton for my comments w/out providing reasoning.

constructive criticism appreciated

fwiw i didn't make the videos for the education of others but for my own.

1. not isolating UTG limper w/ ATo in BB after folded around to him.
2. T8o in BB i thoguht was played very well
3. Not 3betting nanonoko w/ ATo OTB when nano is in UTG+1 .. ."3betting for value means hes gonna be 4betting w/ worse hands" --- LOL SO 5BET ALL IN FOR VALUE IF THATS YOUR READ!!!!!!!!!
Nanonoko 24 tables... he doesnt have time to make good postflop decisions, attack attack attack him, renton dont be afraid lol, its not like hes good.
4. let 57o go after nanonoko opened .. ok obv not a mistake but my point is, attack this fool, come after him, dont let him run over the table.
5. flatting AQo to a 3bet oop ... really bad. if u "dont give his range much credit" THEN 4BET. now you say "maybe he has an AK" its like u keep changing your read during the hand, you have to make a plan and go with it man .. this hand was butchered really badly. if yo uare calling preflop, it means you are calling to slowplay/trap ... but then yuo decide to bet because you hit your nut flop. like u say "i have no idea what his range is" this is why you 4bet or fold preflop. this is the point i really stopped paying attention to a lot of the video because of the fact that it shows clearly you dont know why you're doing what you're doing. (let me make it clear that im not saying you dont know what youre doing, that isnt the case at all, i definitely think you are a winner at these games based on just awtching this w/out knowing anything about u and seeing 15 min of u play, but what im claiming here is very different).
6. good 3bet on nano w/ A4s.
7. u overestimate nano's opening range ... hes playing like 21/18, u say "i have to tighten up and play less hands since nano is at the table" ... this is 100% not true. u have the mindset that he is going to play table captain and that you are going to let him, instead u should take the lead and come after him a ton.
8. i like the 28s lead on the 74T flop but you have to plan on triple barrelling cuz he's gonna call 2 barrels w/ weak hands like bottom and middle pr. when u bet then u give up, thats a huge leak imo cuz u should expect at least 1 call majority of the time.
9. A6o no dont ever check the K92 board. you were pf aggressor, C-BET HES GONNA FOLD 70% OF THE TIME!!! good play.
10. u say u have trouble w/ playing oop and dont understand. basically it's pretty simple, you need to be betting and making larger bets in general the majority of the time. when you check, you give a smart player such a huge advantage. for example. say you check bottom pair after being the pf aggressor and i cold call u ip, then you check the flop to me. if i think you aren't a trappy player and an aggressive player. i know i can triple barrel you profitably 100% of the time w/ any 2 cards cuz u cant call unless u r ready to make a hero call, plus i might improve to the best hand anyways, so basically all you are doing is giving up when you check. u really need to use your pf aggression to your favor and plan on double barrelling a lot of good cards. your main mistake seems to be that you don't plan out your hands, you just play them for value, which i do think you do well.
11. A2o on Q33hh board, you led cuz u thoguht u had the best hand, u should expect the donk to call u w/ any 2, the turn card was a T. THISI S A GREAT SPOT TO DOUBLE BARREL!! KEEP BETTING, youve shown him twice now that you are willing to fire one barrel, but will give up if u miss, its clear to see that it would be extremely profitable to cold call and float you often.
12.KK in sb OMG you have to bet out at this A high flop because you said you cant know what his limp call means. you should know that it means HES WEAK. when you check call you give him the opportunity to take away the pot because YOU look weak. lead the flop and expect to get a fold often, or a call from a 2nd pr type hand or drawing hand that will now check behind turn and river fairly often. it gives you the opportunity to take down the pot much more often and not get bluffed off the worst hand. in position you seem to play pretty well, but oop your play is just so weak, i guess that was my main problem w/ the video and why i stopped watching half way through the 1st part.

if this wasnt enough analysis or if any disagree plz post comments.

also, just in general terms for the integrity of the forums, i think you need someone that is willing to get flamed for disagreeing w/ advice or what a "good" video might be. without it, you end up getting the reputation of just being the place where people can come to get positive feedback rather than reality based feedback. it's an important part of the community.

its the same reason as to why i like gabe : )

renton's a big boy, he can take criticism

and i wouldn't be so quick as to think marshall's bad at the game. he's not the best and has some peculiar or maybe just seeming inconsistent or even maybe just evolving ideas, but they're at least good enough to provide some measure of value. and thats totally standard. ive noticed more specifically over time how some of rentons ideas have changed, so its not like that doesn't happen

I thought it was fairly obvious Renton was posting as much for help/feedback as he was instructing. I've only really watched about 10 mins so far and he's already made that clear.

BJSAUST: i deserved what i got, and i acknowledged and apologized for my mistake, and fixed it. this isnt about me anyways, it's about the video, if you read my posts here you'd see i understand everything you're pointing out.

and on another note, i should be called out when i make claims like the one i did.

i didnt realize it wasnt instructional until renton posted that.

I'm sure there's a proper place for technical problems, but I can't find it. So is it just me or does anyone else have problems with continual buffering (every 1 or 2 seconds) Anyway round this or do I have to just pause it for a few hours?

This happens on all the vids btw.

Thanks in advance

I don't care much for either table he's playing in the first video. The table action has position on him. If I was 4 tabling, both tables would be a canidate to leave.

edit1: Also, I hated the Q9o open fold from the SB against a donk. You have good high card strength and he sucks at poker. You should see a flop here at least.

edit2: TAKE THE OPEN SEAT ON TABLE 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nit with position, donk 2 seats to your right. Like ZOMG!

edit3: Bet a lot when checked to on the button.

edit4: You're getting crap for action because your openers keep the donks out of the pots and the other seats are nits. Then again, that can be ok if you feel like playing small pot poker for a couple hours...

edit5: Q9o > 36s against loose/horrible players.

edit6: I check/cal the AJ hand all the way. I don't think he's ever checked behind HU. Against players that make lots of small bets like that, be happy and showdown goodish hands.

edit7: A7o unraised pot top pair I like a check here because the button will auto-bet.

edit 8: AJs I 3-bet the flop. No way I put him on a strong hand. He might be tight, but he's also fairly aware and certainly defends the blinds with more than just pairs? You have fold equity here.

The AQ river value raise against the fish in video 2 was horrible. I found it interesting that while you were doing it and talking out loud to yourself you couldn't really come up with any worse hands he could call you with. Thanks for sharing btw.

I still think his worst play was not taking a seat change...

I only watched part 1 so far, my initial thought is you really didnt adjust to the donk to your left on the 2nd table. Forget his name, had numbers, playing like 60% of hands. Floated like 90% of c-bets OOP and then lead turn and you folded every single time. The time you took a stand was the time he lead flop instead of checking to you which is like a big sign screaming "Hey, heres a read for you!".

i'm surprised at how much hate the AQ hand is getting. He definitely DEFINITELY calls with worse hands.

That said the raise is still to thin, but imo its far from "terrible."

seriously stop saying the AQ hand is retarded. his raise size was too big but not raising is leaving money on the table FOR SURE.

I totally agree with nutsinho excellent point. Marshall is the worst ever: he's even worse than the spice girls. nutsinho can you teach me everything you know in return for being your loyal fan?

PS. the guys range in the AQ hand probably doesn't include jokers in the hole - so raising less is fine.

carroters is definitely my new favorite poster.

renton i really like your play, i have been having a good amount of succes in the MTT's but i am trying to transfer over to cash games prob starting small around .10/.25 or .25/.50 before play some mid stake games. I would like someone to mentour me a little bit while i start play at low limit games. I watched your videos and like your play and reads. please get back to me. thanks man

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