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Posted: Mon, 10 Jul 2006, 6:25pm Post subject: Reasons why 2pair should beat 3 of a kind.
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High Card
Joined: 10 Jul 2006
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Location: East Rocksbury, South Dakota
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Throughout my poker career i have often been reminded that three of a kind beats 2pair. But why i ask you? Listed below are the reasons that i believe the rules of the game we love, and the one that i dominate at, poker, should be altered to allow 2pair to beat 3 of a kind.
1. The first and most obvious of reasons is that any given 2 pair is composed of 4 cards where the 3 of a kind is composed of only 3 cards. Therefore if we take that as 3/4=75% which we subtract from 100% and get 25%. Simply put, 2 pair is worth an average of 25% more than 3 of a kind. Therefore it should be ranked higher.
2. The win rate of 2pair over any given 20,000 hands is nearly 16.5% higher than the win rate of 3 of a kind. Far more hands are won with 2 pair than are won with 3 of a kind. If over a 200 hand session you are dealt two pair 3% of the hands and we divide this by its wins rate over 3 of a kind(16.5), we get 0.18181818>. And for the 3 of a kinds we divide the aproximately 1.5% of the time we get 3 of a kind by the same 16.5 difference we get 0.090909>. As you can clearly see, the long run overall worth of 2 pair is more than double that of 3 of a kind! We have been accepting the mathematical error of 3 of a kind beating 2pair for all these years and i am the first to discover it and do the math for myself. If this does not convince you that 2pair should beat 3 of a kind then continue reading my other reasons below.
3. If we were to play every hand to the river, (which I do not recommend but can be used as a profitable strategy in higher stakes games) we would see that we get 2pair nearly 16.5 percent more than 3 of a kind making it that much more valuable and clearly showing why it should be ranked higher than 3 of a kind.
4. This is not as much of a reason as it is making my point. Think of how much we value 3 of a kind. We like it so much we give it additional nick-names such as "trips" or "a set". Now that we all understand why 2pair should beat 3 of a kind, i would like to propose that we hand over those nick-names to 2pair. From now on when we flop 2pair we will say "o good, i flopped a set" and when you river your high-ranked 2pair you can shout out that your "trips" again denied someone with 3 of a kind of a pot.
Any comments or thoughts on my discovery or congradulatory messages are welcomed. I would like to hear your thoughts.
-RoyalStraight
-The highest hand i poker! |
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Posted: Mon, 10 Jul 2006, 6:29pm Post subject:
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Straight
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| are you high? no, seriously, are you? |
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Posted: Mon, 10 Jul 2006, 6:39pm Post subject:
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Flush
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Location: working myself up to FTR fullhouse status while not giving 1 solid piece of advice
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thats pretty funny - i have to disagree, but you make some interesting arguments...not good, but interesting  |
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Posted: Mon, 10 Jul 2006, 6:44pm Post subject:
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3-of-a-Kind
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Posted: Mon, 10 Jul 2006, 6:57pm Post subject:
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Flush
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| I think he didnt pass the blunt at lunch, FIEND. |
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Posted: Mon, 10 Jul 2006, 7:08pm Post subject:
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LAME HUMOR THAT MAKES FISH LAUGH
Joined: 28 Sep 2004
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| i think the merits of straights over flushes should be discussed |
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Posted: Mon, 10 Jul 2006, 7:25pm Post subject:
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OLD MAN RIVER
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| We should have a contest to identify the jokester. My money's on Lukie. |
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Posted: Mon, 10 Jul 2006, 7:30pm Post subject:
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Straight
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LOL  r u an idiot? |
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Posted: Mon, 10 Jul 2006, 8:38pm Post subject:
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Flush
Joined: 01 Jan 2006
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Location: Philly, Pa
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| a500lbgorilla wrote: | | i think the merits of straights over flushes should be discussed |
i agree. |
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Posted: Mon, 10 Jul 2006, 8:48pm Post subject:
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Almost as bad as that idiot redgrape
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| the reason three of a kind is better than two pair: It's less probable. Nuff said. |
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Posted: Mon, 10 Jul 2006, 10:32pm Post subject:
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Full House
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| Queen high should be the best hand. |
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Posted: Mon, 10 Jul 2006, 10:54pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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| IowaSkinsFan wrote: | | the reason three of a kind is better than two pair: It's less probable. Nuff said. | I don't know, his math is pretty convincing... |
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Posted: Mon, 10 Jul 2006, 10:59pm Post subject:
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Eats babies
Joined: 28 Feb 2006
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| Warpe has the smartest response to this I think. it's a rofliculous statement at the least but the OP could be a friggin genius. |
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Posted: Mon, 10 Jul 2006, 11:16pm Post subject:
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3-of-a-Kind
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a bit off topic but did anyone read his other post where he says, and i quote
"I chose RoyalStraoght for my name becaue it is the highest hand ranking in poker" |
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Posted: Mon, 10 Jul 2006, 11:51pm Post subject:
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Eats babies
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People???? people???? get a sense of humor..... LOOK at the thread. you don't have to be brain surgeon to know when someone is fuckin wit' ya. here's the bets.
1) Lukie... a 2:1 favorite and quite funny in his own right. And loves to be an OP
2) Po$$e$$ed a 25:1 underdog, but possible because he can be funny even without sarcasm.
3) Midas06 a 4:1 possibility if he was drinking that night.
4) Muxy a 3:1 good bet. He gets bored easy and is Canadian. We love humour.
5) BigRed 8:1 a bit of a stretch because bigred's humour is mostly poking back, not the original zings. But some of the funniest one line posts on FTR.
This is your line up, place your bets......................................... |
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Posted: Tue, 11 Jul 2006, 12:07am Post subject:
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3-of-a-Kind
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| Trainer_jyms wrote: | People???? people???? get a sense of humor..... LOOK at the thread. you don't have to be brain surgeon to know when someone is fuckin wit' ya. here's the bets.
1) Lukie... a 2:1 favorite and quite funny in his own right.
2) Po$$e$$ed a 25:1 underdog, but possible because he can be funny without sarcasm.
3) Midas06 a 4:1 possibility if he was drinking.
4) Muxy a 3:1 good bet. He gets board easy and is canadian. We love humour.
5) BigRed 8:1 a bit of a stretch because bigred's humour is mostly poking back, not the original zings. But some of the funniest one line posts on FTR.
This is your line up, place your bets......................................... | Possesed, dont even know who he is but that 25 to 1 pay off would sure boost the bankroll if it was him |
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Posted: Tue, 11 Jul 2006, 8:54am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 15 Sep 2005
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| Trainer_jyms wrote: | People???? people???? get a sense of humor..... LOOK at the thread. you don't have to be brain surgeon to know when someone is fuckin wit' ya. here's the bets.
1) Lukie... a 2:1 favorite and quite funny in his own right. And loves to be an OP
2) Po$$e$$ed a 25:1 underdog, but possible because he can be funny even without sarcasm.
3) Midas06 a 4:1 possibility if he was drinking that night.
4) Muxy a 3:1 good bet. He gets bored easy and is Canadian. We love humour.
5) BigRed 8:1 a bit of a stretch because bigred's humour is mostly poking back, not the original zings. But some of the funniest one line posts on FTR.
This is your line up, place your bets......................................... |
1) Lukie - would be risking mod status, even if he did it I don't think we'll find out
2) Po$$e$$ed - I would easily take 25:1 odds. He's random as hell and likes to finger the system from behind. My pick
3) Midas06 - see #1
4) Muxy - Hasn't been making crazy long posts for a long time, long shot
5) BigRed - I agree |
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Posted: Tue, 11 Jul 2006, 11:01am Post subject: Re: Reasons why 2pair should beat 3 of a kind.
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4-of-a-Kind
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| RoyalStraight wrote: | | 1. The first and most obvious of reasons is that any given 2 pair is composed of 4 cards where the 3 of a kind is composed of only 3 cards. Therefore if we take that as 3/4=75% which we subtract from 100% and get 25%. Simply put, 2 pair is worth an average of 25% more than 3 of a kind. Therefore it should be ranked higher. |
Yes, but 4/3=133% and if we subtract 100% from that we get 33%. It is clear that this hints that 3 of a kind should be higher.
| Quote: | | 2. The win rate of 2pair over any given 20,000 hands is nearly 16.5% higher than the win rate of 3 of a kind. Far more hands are won with 2 pair than are won with 3 of a kind. If over a 200 hand session you are dealt two pair 3% of the hands and we divide this by its wins rate over 3 of a kind(16.5), we get 0.18181818>. And for the 3 of a kinds we divide the aproximately 1.5% of the time we get 3 of a kind by the same 16.5 difference we get 0.090909>. As you can clearly see, the long run overall worth of 2 pair is more than double that of 3 of a kind! We have been accepting the mathematical error of 3 of a kind beating 2pair for all these years and i am the first to discover it and do the math for myself. If this does not convince you that 2pair should beat 3 of a kind then continue reading my other reasons below. |
The 1.5% and 3% numbers are made up, making any and all conclusions futile.
| Quote: | | 3. If we were to play every hand to the river, (which I do not recommend but can be used as a profitable strategy in higher stakes games) we would see that we get 2pair nearly 16.5 percent more than 3 of a kind making it that much more valuable and clearly showing why it should be ranked higher than 3 of a kind. |
We get 1pair even more.. so 1pair should be the highest paying hand evah? |
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Posted: Tue, 11 Jul 2006, 11:08am Post subject:
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Two Pair
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Stupid post.
I dont think it is anyone like Muxy, Po$$ or Lukie. IMHO i think the OP is probably is serious. |
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Posted: Tue, 11 Jul 2006, 11:14am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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| WhiteFingers wrote: | | IMHO i think the OP is probably is serious. |
I think it's abundantly clear that he isn't. If you aren't convinced by his "arguments", then read his suggestion #4.. |
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Posted: Tue, 11 Jul 2006, 11:19am Post subject:
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Straight Flush
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| jackvance wrote: | | WhiteFingers wrote: | | IMHO i think the OP is probably is serious. |
I think it's abundantly clear that he isn't. If you aren't convinced by his "arguments", then read his suggestion #4.. |
i think his suggestion #4 just backs up the fact that this is indeed the worst post ever
y/n? |
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Posted: Tue, 11 Jul 2006, 11:26am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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Posting under alternate accounts isn't really my style. More like 1000 to 1 for me. I'd just post this under my name with a LOLOL!!!! at the end.
Good post though, I got a good laugh.
Another reason is that it's in the beginner's circle. I rarely venture out of my community forum and only do when the community forum is low on activity. |
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Posted: Tue, 11 Jul 2006, 11:27am Post subject:
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Eats babies
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The silence is defining.
This thread is in need of highjack. I have not had a losing night since purchasing PT. What autorate do you use?How do you guys feel about PAHUD vs. Gametime+? PokerStars now has resizable tables. And downloadable themes. |
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Posted: Tue, 11 Jul 2006, 11:50am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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| Bode-ist wrote: |
i think his suggestion #4 just backs up the fact that this is indeed the worst post ever
y/n? |
y |
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Posted: Tue, 11 Jul 2006, 12:17pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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| Bode-ist wrote: | i think his suggestion #4 just backs up the fact that this is indeed the worst post ever
y/n? | n
it's too funny |
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Posted: Tue, 11 Jul 2006, 12:21pm Post subject:
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Straight
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| I got my hopes up when I saw the possiblity of a straight v flush argument. Now I have to actually do some work! Damn you all! |
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Posted: Tue, 11 Jul 2006, 12:24pm Post subject:
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3-of-a-Kind
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i think this is clearly the best or the worst post ever (not that i've been here long enough for my opinion to mean much)
it's such a load of random bullshit but it made me laugh.
btw ru checkin out my kick ass avatar, ya u are |
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Posted: Tue, 11 Jul 2006, 12:55pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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| jameseyb wrote: | | I got my hopes up when I saw the possiblity of a straight v flush argument. | This one is obvious. There are more outs for a flush than an OESD. You can't even argue against that.
That's why I only play suited cards, connected cards are -eV. |
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Posted: Tue, 11 Jul 2006, 12:58pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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| jameseyb wrote: | | I got my hopes up when I saw the possiblity of a straight v flush argument. Now I have to actually do some work! Damn you all! |
I wanted to post about that too.. because when I started playing poker I actually thought straight>flush.. and it cost me a rather big pot to figure out it was the other way around. But I let some program simulate 250k hands and this came out:
straight flush .05%
four of a kind .17%
full house 2.53%
Flush 3%
Straight 4.6%
Three of a kind 4.85%
2p 23.67%
Pair 43.73%
So I guess they're all adequately placed in order of likelyhood.
(except high card.. it happens 17.4% so it should beat 2p!!!!) |
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Posted: Tue, 11 Jul 2006, 7:09pm Post subject:
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3-of-a-Kind
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| Bode-ist wrote: | | jackvance wrote: | | WhiteFingers wrote: | | IMHO i think the OP is probably is serious. |
I think it's abundantly clear that he isn't. If you aren't convinced by his "arguments", then read his suggestion #4.. |
i think his suggestion #4 just backs up the fact that this is indeed the worst post ever
y/n? |
I've decided no. I thought it was funny. But if this was actually a legitimate post then no doubt it would be the worst post ever |
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Posted: Tue, 11 Jul 2006, 7:41pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush
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| i think folding should win, then lukie would be rich. |
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Posted: Tue, 11 Jul 2006, 8:57pm Post subject:
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11 OF DIAMONDS
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| a500lbgorilla wrote: | | i think the merits of straights over flushes should be discussed |
YEAH!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Posted: Tue, 11 Jul 2006, 10:11pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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| BowlinPinTim wrote: | | I've decided no. I thought it was funny. But if this was actually a legitimate post then no doubt it would be the worst post ever | Unintentional comedy is still comedy |
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Posted: Wed, 12 Jul 2006, 12:04am Post subject:
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| a500lbgorilla wrote: | | i think the merits of straights over flushes should be discussed |
Woooooooooooooow.... are you shitting me? straights aren't better then flushes? god.. I just found a leak in my game |
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Posted: Wed, 12 Jul 2006, 3:06am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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funny, I was just going to start a thread like this discussing why full houses should beat 4 of a kind. You even stole my reasoning!!!
GODAMNIT SON OF A BITCH ACHACHACHACHACHACH!!! (i pity anyone who understands this) |
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Posted: Wed, 12 Jul 2006, 4:03am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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| Trainer_jyms wrote: | People???? people???? get a sense of humor..... LOOK at the thread. you don't have to be brain surgeon to know when someone is fuckin wit' ya. here's the bets.
1) Lukie... a 2:1 favorite and quite funny in his own right. And loves to be an OP
2) Po$$e$$ed a 25:1 underdog, but possible because he can be funny even without sarcasm.
3) Midas06 a 4:1 possibility if he was drinking that night.
4) Muxy a 3:1 good bet. He gets bored easy and is Canadian. We love humour.
5) BigRed 8:1 a bit of a stretch because bigred's humour is mostly poking back, not the original zings. But some of the funniest one line posts on FTR.
This is your line up, place your bets......................................... |
haha, classic
what's an OP (assuming that it isnt original poster, which wouldn't make sense in this ^^^ context. |
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Posted: Wed, 12 Jul 2006, 5:04am Post subject:
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Full House
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| why is an ace the highest card anyway? I've always hated that. fucking aces. |
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Posted: Wed, 12 Jul 2006, 5:07am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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| I wouldn't type tha tmuch |
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Posted: Wed, 12 Jul 2006, 6:00am Post subject:
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11 OF DIAMONDS
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| Greedo017 wrote: | | why is an ace the highest card anyway? I've always hated that. fucking aces. |
Pocket 1's ftw. |
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Posted: Wed, 12 Jul 2006, 6:44am Post subject:
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Full House
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| oh, and his location reminds me, south dakota is the worst state ever. and its not even close. make places to eat along your highways goddamnit! minnesota also! your states are gay! |
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Posted: Wed, 12 Jul 2006, 8:31am Post subject:
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Straight
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Nothing like a bit of xenophobia to make the day go faster! I dislike people for things a bit more complex than just the lack of eating establishments on their road networks.
That said, i've also hated peopel for far less, and those do seem like legitimate reasons! |
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Posted: Wed, 12 Jul 2006, 9:14am Post subject:
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LAME HUMOR THAT MAKES FISH LAUGH
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I have no idea why so freaking many have posted under this IP, it's the first time I've ever seen this. |
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Posted: Wed, 12 Jul 2006, 10:06am Post subject:
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Eats babies
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| Somebody is either a clever soul or there is a glitch. My money is on the glitch. But I've been wrong before. Is this a situation with providers flipping IP's to different customers, if it isw it's still freaky that this many would get the same IP at one forum. same state, city, house, room??? |
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Posted: Wed, 12 Jul 2006, 10:13am Post subject:
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LAME HUMOR THAT MAKES FISH LAUGH
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| it's a .proxy.aol.com ip address. |
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4-of-a-Kind
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| jameseyb wrote: | Nothing like a bit of xenophobia to make the day go faster! I dislike people for things a bit more complex than just the lack of eating establishments on their road networks.
That said, i've also hated peopel for far less, and those do seem like legitimate reasons! |
{EDIT: I made a list, then decided it needed it's own thread} |
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Posted: Wed, 12 Jul 2006, 10:17am Post subject:
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Eats babies
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A O L IS THE DEBBLE
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4-of-a-Kind
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I have no idea why so freaking many have posted under this IP, it's the first time I've ever seen this. |
how do u do this sir |
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Posted: Wed, 12 Jul 2006, 3:27pm Post subject:
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LAME HUMOR THAT MAKES FISH LAUGH
Joined: 28 Sep 2004
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Posted: Wed, 12 Jul 2006, 4:25pm Post subject: Re: Reasons why 2pair should beat 3 of a kind.
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High Card
Joined: 01 Feb 2006
Posts: 13
WPP: 218
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| RoyalStraight wrote: |
2. The win rate of 2pair over any given 20,000 hands is nearly 16.5% higher than the win rate of 3 of a kind. Far more hands are won with 2 pair than are won with 3 of a kind. If over a 200 hand session you are dealt two pair 3% of the hands and we divide this by its wins rate over 3 of a kind(16.5), we get 0.18181818>. And for the 3 of a kinds we divide the aproximately 1.5% of the time we get 3 of a kind by the same 16.5 difference we get 0.090909>. As you can clearly see, the long run overall worth of 2 pair is more than double that of 3 of a kind! We have been accepting the mathematical error of 3 of a kind beating 2pair for all these years and i am the first to discover it and do the math for myself. If this does not convince you that 2pair should beat 3 of a kind then continue reading my other reasons below.
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I bet that more money is won with 2 pair than with 4 of a kind.
Therefore the logic flows:
More Money Won = Higher Ranked Poker Hand
2 Pair Money Won > 4 Of a Kind Money Won
2 Pair Ranked as Higher Poker Hand!
Based on the above logic are the New Rankings?
2 Pair
3 of a kind
Straight
Flush
Full House
Four of a Kind
Straight Flush
Pair
High Card
Damn, my head is hurting again.
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Posted: Wed, 12 Jul 2006, 4:38pm Post subject:
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Straight
Joined: 13 Jul 2005
Posts: 151
WPP: 106
Location: Gaylord, MI
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| i think straights should beat flushes, cause a flush draw gives ya 9 outs...but a straight draw only 8, and sometimes even 4. i think straights should beat royal flushes too. i mean sure, a royal flush is a straight...but come on, screw that. i think the straight and the flush in a royal flush should cancel each other out and so the hand would become worthless. |
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