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Posted: Sat, 30 Sep 2006, 7:58am Post subject: Read the News, Puked.
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4-of-a-Kind
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Posted: Sat, 30 Sep 2006, 8:08am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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I'm awestruck by the continued assault on the ideals this country was built upon. I felt sick to my stomach as well. I'm with ya. I hear ya. I feel ya. Let's get someone in office who feels the governments role is to protect our freedoms, not take them away.
On second thought, let's ban gambling, because people are being too "gambly", which is immoral in some way. Oh ya, but it's ok if the goverment gets you into it. It's not unhealthy for KENO tards to hang out at Store 24 for eight hours staring as little yellow pixel balls miss their "government sanctioned" quickpick predetermined. |
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Posted: Sat, 30 Sep 2006, 11:46am Post subject:
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Straight Flush
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the only thing this does is stop direct wire transfers from your bank account/credit card to the offshore sites. this bill does nothing to stop transfers to third party companies such as neteller and firepay. all you have to do is go through a third party account, and everything is the same as it was. im sure most of us do this as it is.
the only thing that will hurt is if/when the major sites block US accounts. |
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Posted: Sat, 30 Sep 2006, 12:19pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush
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Please address all cheques to Miffed_22001@hotmail.co.uk and i will deposit for you all
That is all (i understand playing isnt actually illegal right, just depositing?) |
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Posted: Sat, 30 Sep 2006, 12:27pm Post subject:
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did you read the other thread? Because the language is pretty strong regarding ALL offshore transfers...Not just credit cards but specifically the nettellers or whatever - this is hardcore guys -
What im wondering though is maybe this will turn into the alcohol prohibition thing, and hopefully last a lot less time - That didn't work then, why would it work now? There are SO many online poker players, the PokerAlliance - it just seems we really do have quite a force behind us...
im pissed because i have been killing the game for the past month or so - and last night i won 12 buy ins (including the Bonus) - after a couple years of mediocrity, I find FTR and actually learn the game...this is such bullshit - As unintelligent as it is, FUCK the Frist guy - piece of shit...i know that was ignorant, this just seems really stupid -
What is the chance we can just get a Canadian online provider? I live like 2 hours away from Vancouver, BC - Maybe I can try to get a canadian online provider -
i don't know - this sucks though.... |
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Posted: Sun, 01 Oct 2006, 2:17am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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Posted: Sun, 01 Oct 2006, 3:15am Post subject:
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| Bode-ist wrote: | the only thing this does is stop direct wire transfers from your bank account/credit card to the offshore sites. this bill does nothing to stop transfers to third party companies such as neteller and firepay. all you have to do is go through a third party account, and everything is the same as it was. im sure most of us do this as it is.
the only thing that will hurt is if/when the major sites block US accounts. |
just to double-clarify, this is incredibly incorrect. this bill is attempting to get banks to stop transactions with places like neteller. |
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Posted: Sun, 01 Oct 2006, 3:42am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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I don't mean any offense by this because I'm sure you guys are well-meaning, but some of the comments here are really misleading and not helpful at all -- and this isn't just directed at Bode-ist; a lot of people have been doing this. It's a personal peeve of mine when people talk with authority on a subject when they really don't have much of a clue about it. No one here knows what's going to happen to Neteller and Firepay, and no one here knows which poker sites will continue to allow US customers, and no one here knows whether ISP's will try to ban gambling-related traffic. There's a ton of confusion right now about what the actual consequences will be and misinformation will only make things worse. If you're not an expert, please stop acting like one.
| Rondavu wrote: | | I'm awestruck by the continued assault on the ideals this country was built upon. I felt sick to my stomach as well. I'm with ya. I hear ya. I feel ya. Let's get someone in office who feels the governments role is to protect our freedoms, not take them away. |
Well, by itself, banning online gambling is a lot less outrageous than many of the other things this country has done recently. I still can't believe that the United States government actually tortured people systematically. That being said, this bill obviously hits a lot closer to home for many of us, and makes it a lot harder to ignore the assault on our freedoms, which many of us have been doing, unfortunately. Getting rid of the Bill Frists that infest our government seems like such a hopeless task, but hopefully this will at least inspire people to try a little harder.
That's all I have to say about this now, I'm going to be taking a break from poker until we know more about the financial and legal details of the situation. |
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Posted: Sun, 01 Oct 2006, 12:12pm Post subject:
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I don't understand how the bank can stop transactions with Neteller leagally, Greed maybe you know better.
So the US is just going to blatantly limit transactions because they have jurisdiction over interstate Commerce? Is that allowed?
And what can the WTO do to stop this? |
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Posted: Sun, 01 Oct 2006, 3:55pm Post subject:
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| Phantaroth wrote: | | I don't understand how the bank can stop transactions with Neteller leagally. |
they just made a law saying they can do it legally.
i'm not gonna speculate much about what will happen. the government can really do a hugely wide range of things. as little as determining that it is too hard for banks to block transactions like this, and things stay completely normal, all the way to determining that any foreign bank that allows americans to deposit/withdraw from a gambling website is banned from interacting with american banks. |
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