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crime002000
Post Posted: Wed, 15 Feb 2006, 10:06pm    Post subject: Quads--How do i get the rest? What would he have here Reply with quote
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Joined: 18 Oct 2005
Posts: 33
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Location: Vancouver BC
Villain sat down like 2 hands ago...no reads. After his CR, I fu=igured maybe 77...how would I get the rest...just call turn, and bet river out?

PokerStars Game #3987676209: Hold'em No Limit ($3/$6) - 2006/02/15 - 23:59:02 (ET)
Table 'Semphyra' Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: 28slick ($128 in chips)
Seat 2: vacationfund ($181.25 in chips)
Seat 3: Joe V3 ($673 in chips)
Seat 4: NYC_CHOD ($889 in chips)
Seat 5: _-=x/JDM\=-_ ($392.50 in chips)
Seat 6: crime002000 ($788.15 in chips)
Seat 7: goose58 ($651 in chips)
Seat 9: CASHRUS ($461.75 in chips)
_-=x/JDM\=-_: posts small blind $3
crime002000: posts big blind $6
zoilykey: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to crime002000 [4c 4h]
goose58: folds
CASHRUS: folds
28slick: folds
vacationfund: calls $6
Joe V3: folds
NYC_CHOD: folds
_-=x/JDM\=-_: calls $3
crime002000: checks
*** FLOP *** [4d 2s 7c]
_-=x/JDM\=-_: checks
crime002000: checks
vacationfund: bets $18
_-=x/JDM\=-_: raises $31 to $49
crime002000: calls $49
vacationfund: folds
*** TURN *** [4d 2s 7c] [4s]
_-=x/JDM\=-_: checks
crime002000: bets $60
_-=x/JDM\=-_: raises $108 to $168
crime002000: raises $246 to $414
_-=x/JDM\=-_: folds
crime002000 collected $467 from pot
crime002000: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $470 | Rake $3
Board [4d 2s 7c 4s]
Seat 1: 28slick folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: vacationfund folded on the Flop
Seat 3: Joe V3 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: NYC_CHOD (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: _-=x/JDM\=-_ (small blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 6: crime002000 (big blind) collected ($467)
Seat 7: goose58 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: CASHRUS folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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Galapogos
Post Posted: Wed, 15 Feb 2006, 10:56pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Ok I'm just a low level guy still but I like lurking in this particular forum. First I don't think he has 7's because you have to be a damn good player to lay down the best full house on this board. Who really fears quads in his spot? I think he just has a pocket over pair. Nothing too big, maybe 8's or 9's?

And if you want to get more money out of him why work so fast? You have the hand won with one card to go. Instead of inducing an all-in on the turn why not just call him? You have position anyway. So if he doesn't make a move on the river you can at least value bet him to get a little more cash from him.
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dj newman
Post Posted: Wed, 15 Feb 2006, 11:03pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Joined: 29 Dec 2005
Posts: 210
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There is no way he has 77 here, you would have stacked him with that. He is worried about you having a 4 for trips. I am guessing he has an overpair or A7. A spade may kill any action on the river, but I doubt it. I believe he has $233 of his stack in a pot of $490 and about $160 left....call his raise on the turn and hopefully he bets into you on the river....if not push.
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Bmxicle
Post Posted: Wed, 15 Feb 2006, 11:55pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Posts: 944
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Location: Vancouver
double check raise is weird by opp. I like to just call in this spot cause that will usually induce a bet on the river, thus making a huge pot. I go allin and they usually have priced themselves in for a call. you don't need to worry about getting 77's money here, so you just gotta figure out how to get other hands to pay off.
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Alibi
Post Posted: Thu, 16 Feb 2006, 7:16pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Posts about quads are pretty pointless. This situation happens so infrequently that youre better off making threads about other situations.
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WildBobAA
Post Posted: Thu, 16 Feb 2006, 9:42pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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You're lucky you got any action at all.
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outphase
Post Posted: Thu, 16 Feb 2006, 11:02pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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if he loves the check/raise so much, i say flat call the turn and pop him on the river, you're at worst 96% to win the hand (vs Open ended straight flush draw). You have position, let him check/raise the river again.
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AllinLife
Post Posted: Sat, 18 Feb 2006, 4:10am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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so just call the turn check raise because you'll get it in vs other fulls by river no matter what and let him keep bluffing otherwise
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