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Posted: Wed, 03 Nov 2004, 3:28pm Post subject: QQ Played badly against SuperLagg? |
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Full House
Joined: 23 Apr 2004
Posts: 629
WPP: 149
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Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (SUPER LAG) (8 handed)
UTG ($101.1)
UTG+1 ($40.75)
MP1 ($157.1)
MP2 ($234.35)
CO ($157.25)
scgolfer ($105.45)
SB ($147.05)
BB (SUPER LAG) ($198.2)
Preflop: scgolfer is Button with Q , Q . SB posts a blind of $1.
UTG calls $2, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls $2, MP2 folds, CO folds, scgolfer raises to $8, SB (poster) folds, BB (SUPER LAG) calls $6, UTG folds, MP1 folds.
Flop: ($21) 7, 9 , T (2 players)
SUPER LAG checks, scgolfer bets $25, SUPER LAG calls $25.
Turn: ($71) 8 (2 players)
SUPER LAG bets $10, scgolfer calls $10. ?????
River: ($91) J (2 players)
SUPER LAG bets $20, scgolfer calls $62.45 (All-In), SUPER LAG calls $42.45.
Final Pot: $215.90 |
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Posted: Wed, 03 Nov 2004, 4:24pm Post subject: |
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Full House
Joined: 15 Oct 2004
Posts: 1476
WPP: 135
Location: moral high ground
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| If he is truly loose agressive, why did he just call preflop? Probably playing some crap like J 7 offsuit. Fold your QQ. |
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Posted: Wed, 03 Nov 2004, 4:26pm Post subject: |
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Full House
Joined: 23 Apr 2004
Posts: 629
WPP: 149
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Fold at the turn, is what I thought. Got very lucky with the river. But still lost.  Ill post what he had later. |
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Posted: Wed, 03 Nov 2004, 4:28pm Post subject: |
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LAME HUMOR THAT MAKES FISH LAUGH
Joined: 28 Sep 2004
Posts: 7480
WPP: 65
Location: This room is a good place to be
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You think the third heart that gave you the straight was lucky in that pot? Reraise on the turn, he may be weak leading but he may be feeling you out as well. Gotta show a little power there. Make him decide to continue. He makes his flush on the river and cracks them queens. Axs?
-'rilla |
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Posted: Wed, 03 Nov 2004, 4:39pm Post subject: |
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Full House
Joined: 23 Apr 2004
Posts: 629
WPP: 149
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| Looking at it again, With him being lag and having very little Idea what he actually had, I agree totally with you 500lb, I should have reraised the turn to see how good he was and fold or go accordingly. I had him calling too large of bet on flop but caught his straight anyways, but I thought i got lucky on river to out do him. Hard to put him on flush draw from his action isn't it? |
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Posted: Wed, 03 Nov 2004, 4:50pm Post subject: |
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LAME HUMOR THAT MAKES FISH LAUGH
Joined: 28 Sep 2004
Posts: 7480
WPP: 65
Location: This room is a good place to be
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No, i dont think it's that hard. He check/calls on the flop and tries to set the pace with a nice small bet on the turn, then he pulls out a value bet on the river. I know I've seen 'em played that way before.
-'rilla |
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Posted: Wed, 03 Nov 2004, 7:21pm Post subject: |
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Full House
Joined: 23 Apr 2004
Posts: 629
WPP: 149
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| So what your saying he was wrong to call the bet with either draw? But I was wrong to call any bet further than that? I thinkyou can make a case for that. |
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Posted: Wed, 03 Nov 2004, 7:38pm Post subject: |
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Flush
Joined: 06 Aug 2004
Posts: 586
WPP: 89
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| looks like he's playing implied odds. You're not giving him pot-odds to call the flop on the flush draw (at least, I'm assuming), but implied odds still seem to be there. So, to ensure he keeps them, he bets out small on the turn hoping you won't re-raise. |
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Posted: Wed, 03 Nov 2004, 9:08pm Post subject: |
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Full House
Joined: 11 Oct 2004
Posts: 1116
WPP: 67
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srry if this ruins your post scgolfer, but i had a hand very similar to your and thought i could also post it here
------HAND 5------
Game #170529123: Texas Hold'em No Limit (75/150) - 2004/11/03 - 22:55:59 (EST)
Table "$300Free 171929 - 12" Seat 7 is the button.
Seat 1: Dryotte (4525 in chips)
Seat 2: tripjacks (500 in chips)
Seat 3: daviec (1465 in chips)
Seat 4: CoorsLT (5205 in chips)
Seat 5: YanksSuck (215.16 in chips)
Seat 6: elanto (2040 in chips)
Seat 7: Zeke~23 (3635 in chips)
Seat 8: *VRGmoney (5350 in chips)
Seat 9: Bluejaxon (3515 in chips)
Seat 10: BigNig (1075 in chips)
*VRGmoney: posts small blind 75
Bluejaxon: posts big blind 150
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to elanto [Qd Qc]
BigNig: folds
Dryotte: calls 150
tripjacks: folds
daviec: calls 150
CoorsLT: folds
YanksSuck: raises to 215.16 and is all-in
elanto: raises to 450
Zeke~23: folds
*VRGmoney: calls 375
Bluejaxon: calls 300
Dryotte: calls 300
daviec: calls 300
----- FLOP ----- [7c 8h Ts]
*VRGmoney: folds
*VRGmoney sits out
*VRGmoney sits back
Bluejaxon: checks
Dryotte: checks
daviec: checks
elanto: bets 450
*VRGmoney sits back
Bluejaxon: calls 450
Dryotte: calls 450
daviec: folds
----- TURN ----- [7c 8h Ts][9s]
Bluejaxon: bets 900 now, i know he flopped his straight here
Dryotte: folds
elanto: raises to 1140 and is all-in
Bluejaxon: calls 240
----- RIVER ----- [7c 8h Ts 9s][2d]
----- SHOW DOWN -----
elanto: shows [Qd Qc] (A Pair of Queens, Ten high)
Bluejaxon: shows [Tc Js] (A Straight, Jack high)
YanksSuck: shows [6s Ad] (A Straight, Ten high)
Bluejaxon collected 4804.20 from Side pot #2
Bluejaxon collected 1290.96 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot 6095.16 Main pot 1290.96 Side pot #2 4804.20 | Rake 0
Board [7c 8h Ts 9s 2d]
Seat 1: Dryotte folded on the Turn
Seat 2: tripjacks folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: daviec folded on the Flop
Seat 4: CoorsLT folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Zeke~23 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: *VRGmoney (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 9: Bluejaxon (big blind) showed [Tc Js] and won (6095.16) with A Straight, Jack high
Seat 10: BigNig folded before Flop (didn't bet)
After the turn i knew he had flopped his straight draw, but i was to pot commited to let this hand go, now, what did i do wrong here, was i to passive after the flop?, should i have folded after he bet the turn? I was also in a straight draw, needed a jack which was nearly impossible, but i just couldnt walk away from that hand, my chances of winning this tournament would have been very slim even if i had walked away fromt this hand after the turn....
-anto |
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Posted: Thu, 04 Nov 2004, 9:43pm Post subject: |
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Flush
Joined: 14 Jun 2004
Posts: 530
WPP: 64
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Allin. when pot is huge, your priority is to maximize your chances of winning.
what does a 450 bet do here? |
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