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asdpikas
Post Posted: Tue, 01 Jul 2008, 10:38am    Post subject: QQ hand Reply with quote
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No reads on villain. Without reads, is this a missed draw often enough?

$0.1/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($61.31)
CO ($20.60)
Hero ($39.11)
SB ($26.67)
BB ($40.47)

Pre-flop: ($0.35, 5 players) Hero is BTN Queen of Spades Queen of Clubs
1 fold, CO calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.25, 2 folds, CO calls $1

Flop: Ten of Diamonds Three of Spades King of Diamonds ($2.85, 2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $2.25, CO calls $2.25

Turn: Eight of Spades ($7.35, 2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $4, CO calls $4

River: Seven of Hearts ($15.35, 2 players)
CO goes all-in $13.10, Hero ??
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dalecooper
Post Posted: Tue, 01 Jul 2008, 10:47am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I would call it. All draws missed and that line is very "my draw didn't get there, can I have this pot please?" Sometimes he'll have a weirdly played monster (or J9 - boy would that suck) but I think you're +EV against his probable range, which has a lot of missed flush draws and JQ in it.
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freechus9
Post Posted: Tue, 01 Jul 2008, 10:50am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Checking behind the turn makes the river decision much easier, as the shove will be too big to call, and a lot more hands will try to bluff you after you've shown weakness.
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asdpikas
Post Posted: Tue, 01 Jul 2008, 10:53am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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freechus9 wrote:
Checking behind the turn makes the river decision much easier, as the shove will be too big to call, and a lot more hands will try to bluff you after you've shown weakness.


the board is really drawy.... can i really give a free card? If a cooler comes on the river (i.e. diamond, A, 9...) can i really call any reasonable bet?
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dalecooper
Post Posted: Tue, 01 Jul 2008, 10:59am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I don't like checking behind there for the reasons you give. In fact I'd prefer a slightly larger turn bet ($5) which makes it clearer where you stand if he happens to check-raise you, and also a little easier to call a river bluff if he pulls the same crap he did here.
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zook
Post Posted: Tue, 01 Jul 2008, 12:23pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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looks fine now call
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