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Posted: Sat, 04 Jul 2009, 3:36pm Post subject: QQ as overpair vs 71bb stack really gay flop action
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Straight
Joined: 01 Mar 2009
Posts: 142
WPP: 115
Location: IL
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Villain was 77/14 over around 20 hands hadn't seen him 3bet until now
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
MP2 ($3.73)
CO ($4.40)
Button ($2.11)
SB ($1.42)
BB ($0.90)
Hero (UTG) ($2.04)
UTG+1 ($2.46)
MP1 ($0.92)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q , Q
Hero bets $0.08, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.08, 3 folds, SB raises to $0.14, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.06, MP1 calls $0.06
Okay, pretty standard here I think
Flop: ($0.44) 9 , 5, J (3 players)
SB bets $0.10, Hero raises to $0.40, 1 fold, SB raises to $0.92, Hero raises to $1.44, SB calls $0.36 (All-In)
I had to call $0.52 to win $1.86, and if I was going to call here I knew I would call his $0.36 on the turn or river. This hand is just disgusting. I was thinking I was proably behind but the 77vpip just had me convinced he loved losing money- not to mention the odds...
What do you think? A fold to the flop 3bet? Maybe our range is so far behind I can justify not taking those odds?
Turn: ($3) 2 (2 players, 1 all-in)
River: ($3) 9 (2 players, 1 all-in)
Total pot: $3 | Rake: $0.15 |
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Posted: Sat, 04 Jul 2009, 3:56pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 25 Sep 2005
Posts: 3547
WPP: 101
Location: The Grind
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| Probably 4-bet preflop and get it in. Also, if you're folding to the flop 3-bet then you shouldn't raise. |
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Posted: Sat, 04 Jul 2009, 4:40pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 17 Aug 2007
Posts: 2572
WPP: 145
Location: GA
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| I think shoving QQ here preflop is fine - I tend to call a lot and would have been fine stacking off on the flop against this guy. For me, this hand is standard. I think the 77vpip IS someone who loves giving away money, but even maniacs hit a hand every now and again. Don't get too results oriented, imo. |
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Posted: Sat, 04 Jul 2009, 6:14pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 20 Jul 2008
Posts: 929
WPP: 113
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| spoonitnow wrote: | | Also, if you're folding to the flop 3-bet then you shouldn't raise. |
This is a concept that has kept me from playing cash...You put a villain on a range and your hand is great to 3 bet with but yet at the same time. If you willing to fold to villains 4 bet you shouldn't ever 3 bet to begin with but some how you can see the future and know that a 4 bet is coming...Reading people talk about cash games is so discovery channel to me 
Im kidding btw, its just so confusing lol. |
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