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Q8 in the BB flops top pair against a LAGGtard

  
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taipan168
Post Posted: Wed, 01 Jul 2009, 9:04am    Post subject: Q8 in the BB flops top pair against a LAGGtard Reply with quote
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This is early in the tourney. Opp has LAGGtard stats, something like 35/20/4.0 up to this point. Shove over on the flop or call and see what he does on the turn? Clearly he's FOS on the turn, right?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with Q, 8
6 folds, SB calls t25, Hero checks

Flop: (t100) 6, 3, 8 (2 players)
SB bets t200, Hero calls t200

Turn: (t500) 2 (2 players)
SB bets t1220 (All-In), Hero ????
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drmcboy
Post Posted: Wed, 01 Jul 2009, 12:03pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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looks fine. I have a weird feeling he has something random like AA but I'd have to see it. Raising flop is probably OK since I can't see him folding any 8 or a draw but this is better I think in case he has nothing.
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Post Posted: Wed, 01 Jul 2009, 12:13pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I don't like it when TARDS limp in suspicious spots and play for stacks in tiny pots. On the turn I assume his range is really polarized toward AA/54 and stupid crap like 87/K6.
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Post Posted: Wed, 01 Jul 2009, 2:48pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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pots like this make tards look brilliantly stupid.

I raise the flop.
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Post Posted: Wed, 01 Jul 2009, 7:01pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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One note - because a guy has 35/20 over the first 20 hands doesn't mean much. That's only 4 preflop raises and 3 other calls, including hands like this one. I often find myself with higher numbers early on because of a good string of hands early, so it's not necessarily a LAGGtard, not to mention he limped the small blind. A LAGtard by definition would raise your BB if folded around.

This is just as easily 22. He hits his miracle and donk shoves thinking that you're thinking that he's FOS on the turn. Or he could have A6 and just not believe you hit. Problem is, it's hard to play a raggy flop against a BB who checked behind because it so often hits you.

If you have seen him overbet like this already, then, yes, he's one of those idiots who takes 6 small pots and gets busted when someone finally hits top pair against him.
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Post Posted: Thu, 02 Jul 2009, 9:49am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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His aggression factor is high though (4.0) and generally you can pick up on that after just a few hands. I would probably snap this off.
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Post Posted: Fri, 03 Jul 2009, 6:33pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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with ur call on the flop, he will defo put you on a drawy type hand that the turn doesnt help and shuvs some random pair with no kicker on the turn. i call, if he shows an overpair then that sucks but i think we are good here alot of the time. i think alot of the time he shows 89 87 here
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Post Posted: Sun, 05 Jul 2009, 6:32pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Did you not expect this turn action with the flop over bet?
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Post Posted: Mon, 06 Jul 2009, 12:34am    Post subject: Re: Q8 in the BB flops top pair against a LAGGtard Reply with quote
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taipan168 wrote:
Opp has LAGGtard stats, something like 35/20/4.0 up to this point.


Well, pardon my ignorance, but could someone explain to me what these stats refer to, and how they are tracked (software)?

I feel like a nub.
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