Your move, and why?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter

Button (t970)
SB (t1075)
BB (t1025)
UTG (t1000)
UTG+1 (t985)
UTG+2 (t1160)
Hero (t960)
MP2 (t1005)
MP3 (t965)
CO (t855)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K Spade

, A

.
3 folds, Hero raises to t50, 4 folds, SB calls t40, 1 fold.

Flop: (t112.50) 8 Club

, 6

, 3

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: (t112.50) K Heart

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t75, SB calls t75.

River: (t262.50) 6 Club

(2 players)
SB bets all in t870, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t262.50

Results in white below:
SB doesn't show.
Outcome: SB wins t262.50.

Bet 2/3 of the pot on the flop to find out where you stand. Is he slowplaying? Does he have a cheeky draw?

Again, bet the turn about 1/2 pot, to see if he really has a big hand or if he is drawing with a 54, if he raises here I say I'm beat 80% of the time, if he calls I say I'm ahead of him.

I don't think he has a 6, just wouldn't make sense. Clearly his draw has not hit (assuming he just called your turn bet), so I bet the river 1/2 pot (maybe even smaller) again seeing if I can ooze any more chips out of him.

What stakes are these?

Low stakes, I call.

Higher stakes, I fold. Even if I do have him owned right now, it's so few chips relative to the chip stacks. There's no reason to try to take this right now. If he wants those few chips that badly, let him have them. I'll get them back later.

Although I must say you do probably have him owned. He doesn't have the 6.

How well do you know SB's style of play?

Stakes matter, I agree. But early on people tend to call bigger raises with less. I.e. 5-8 x BB often will get called with something like TK.

Blind at 15, I probably woulda raised to 75. Lets say pot is at 165 now - I'd bet 100 on the flop. He calls, I'm nervous he hit a set or two pair. He folds rock on. He raises I probably give it up.

Whole hand is now changed at this point so can't really continue.

Dwark and ensign don't like the 6. I'm not so sure - 68 suited is ringing in my ears. He might have a read on you, and that K might be too tempting for many to fold.

I lay it down any way it goes, not worth risking it all with TPTK, even if he is full of crap (which I do think), but I would've bet the flop to see wuzup. If he really did have a monster, wouldn't he just try to extract chips with smaller bets, or try for a check-raise there? Very fishy to me, but still not worth it.

Fish do that shit all the time acting like they have a 6. If he actually did, he would probably check raise or bet something that you would call.

If you bet the pot on the flop and he called, the pot would be big enough on the turn that anyone with a 6 would be hardpressed to call another potsize bet. But you might not be able to pot it on the flop since the low starting chips.

I call everytime on low buyins and I call with a fishy read on high buyins.

I agree it's fishy. I agree it was poorly played if he did have 68 (or 33 or 88). But that doesn't mean a crappy player who thinks he is awesome wouldn't play it like this. The nice part about being such an amateur is that I still need to not listen to these thoughts, but this is very easily what someone holding onto a monster here is thinking:

Well if he's gonna call here, he's got a hand, and if he has a hand he's going call whether it is a big bet or not (I know I couldn't fold QK or AK here) so I might as well make a huge bet because he either has the K in which case he'll call or he doesn't and he's gonna fold no matter what I bet.

Isn't it nice to be able to see into the mind of a rookie? I am like a beacon of knowledge for all you pros and should get some sort of retainer for being a dumbass and still thinking this way sometimes (and giving you insight into these foolish thoughts).

Im almost certain he flopped a set.

I would have standard bet the flop. No reason not to unless you have a read. If you're going to check the flop might as well have not raised preflop.

Turn is fine. I personally bet the Pot but yours is fine too.

Depending on buyin, he could easily have a set or a 6. Lotta Loose players out there who play ANY TWO to a preflop raise, not to mention connectors and sooteds. 6 is definitely a possibility.

Remember that advice about not losing your whole stack to a questionable call for a small pot.

6 of one, 1/2 dozen of another. I call that river every time. Worst case he shows a set or AA, but I think you are good enough to justify the call.

Leading AI on the river is very suspicious and means 3 possible outcomes.
1. He was slowrolling AA or a set.
2. He has a piece of the Board that you have crushed liked KQ or A8 etc.
3. He is completely bluffing or has an underpair like JJ or 99 etc.

I think you win 2 out of 3 here which tilts me toward a call.

If he had a huge hand like a set or AA, why not bet a callable amount? I would be much more suspicious had he bet 100 or 200 on the river rather than a clumsy AI. Of course some savy players will push AI because they know that you know that they know etc..... The AI pushes me to call b/c first, you can double up with a very solid holding, and second his AI looks really stupid had he held a great hand.

Another vote for bet the flop. Why not, it's not a scary board.

I am guessing he had 88 or 33 for the full house on the end. I don't have a ton of chips invested in this pot, I would let it go. I would have played it the same way with no bet on the flop.

I don't think he was repping the 6 at all.....that river filled him up and he was praying the turn made your flush. He probably had 3-3 or 8-8 and was trying to let you catch up, the heart on the turn scared him so he simply calls - river gives him the boat and he overbets to make it look like he backdoored the 6 hoping you would push with your heart flush.
Could be the opposite as well, he may have put you on A-6...slowplayed the flush on the turn and hoped the river 6 made your trips.....either way I think it was a good fold......I don't think the SB pushes the river on a pure bluff, while there is still a full table.

Edit: duh....or what breakfastman just said...lol
I should read all the posts before replying.

i got him on Rick James. He flopped a hidden two, and the river filled him up.

Prolly early game, reads are not solid yet. I'd probobly have bet the flop and turn, but if he tries to push me all in on the river, I'd fold regardless of the stakes or my read on him (too early to risk it, there'll be better opportunities).

Smells like he flopped a set. If it was he played the flop and turn pretty standard. He could either value bet the river or try to induce a call with the overbet, or minbet and hope for a reraise.

He could be bluffing or betting TPGK or second pair, but I wouldn't bet the tourney on it. Might crying call a smallish value bet but not an AI.

I could see either betting the flop or taking the free card. Turn bet looks OK.

This is obviously at least a $50 SNG becuase of the stacks. This early, higher $$$ SNG(should be somewhat less fishy), probably no read, I think the laydown is correct.

50 dollar SNG I call (50 is fishier than 30 or sometimes 20) MTT I fold for obvious and aforementioned reasons. Possible flopped set. With no read its a tough call. Could be a fish trying to buy it with one of the flush cards, or could be the boat trying to make it look like a steal.

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