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Posted: Wed, 30 Jun 2004, 5:51am Post subject: Toasty's Math Puzzel 1 |
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I thought I'd liven up the forum a little with some off topic stuff.
Scenario:
There are five fence pannels and three pots of paint. One Blue, one Red and one Green. Every panel needs to be painted.
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Blue Blue Red Red Green
How many ways can you paint the fence panels using all three colors?
There is more than enough paint. |
Last edited by Toasty on Wed, 30 Jun 2004, 6:37am; edited 1 time in total
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Posted: Wed, 30 Jun 2004, 6:14am Post subject: |
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| God, years since I did this, My guess would be 20, (5!/3!) |
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Posted: Wed, 30 Jun 2004, 6:33am Post subject: |
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Posted: Wed, 30 Jun 2004, 6:34am Post subject: |
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Posted: Wed, 30 Jun 2004, 6:36am Post subject: |
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| No correct answers so far. |
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Posted: Wed, 30 Jun 2004, 6:38am Post subject: |
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Point of clarification...
Is it okay to have all panels the same color, or do you mean you have to use all three colors? i.e. is Blue, Blue, Blue, Blue, Blue an option? |
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Posted: Wed, 30 Jun 2004, 6:57am Post subject: |
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You have to use all three colors, but you can use 1 color more than once, obviously otherwise it would be impossible
RRRBG |
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Posted: Wed, 30 Jun 2004, 7:02am Post subject: |
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Posted: Wed, 30 Jun 2004, 7:05am Post subject: |
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Posted: Wed, 30 Jun 2004, 7:08am Post subject: |
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| xbones wrote: | | The answer is 42 |
Nope  |
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Posted: Wed, 30 Jun 2004, 7:18am Post subject: |
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Is it a trick question??
6 - would be my answer if it was |
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Posted: Wed, 30 Jun 2004, 7:20am Post subject: |
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| nevermind, didn't read the example - |
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Posted: Wed, 30 Jun 2004, 7:31am Post subject: |
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Posted: Wed, 30 Jun 2004, 7:39am Post subject: |
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I am assuming order matters.
As in red, red, blue, blue, green different from green, blue, blue, red, red
Is this true? |
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Posted: Wed, 30 Jun 2004, 7:45am Post subject: |
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No one has it yet but someone has come close.
Its visually based, as long as another isn't visually the same and uses 3 colors it counts, i.e. RRRBG - GBRRR - RRRBG - GGGBR |
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Posted: Wed, 30 Jun 2004, 7:50am Post subject: |
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So, if you didn't have to use all three colors, I think the answer is 243.
You've got three choices for each panel. Since order matters, these are independent choices, ie you've got three choices for panel 1, then for each color you pick for panel 1, you've got three choices for panel 2, or nine different combinations for two panels, then for each one of these you've got three choices for panel 3, etc. etc. etc. Thats 3X3X3X3X3 = 3^5 = 243
Then, you have to figure out how many 2 color and one color combinations there are. There are 3 one color combinations. That means we're down to 240.
Using the same reasoning above, I'd guess there are 2^5 = 32 two color comos. So my new, and final guess is 208. |
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Posted: Wed, 30 Jun 2004, 7:58am Post subject: |
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Heatman's method would give him the answer but he has missed something.
XBones Is close but no cigar  |
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Thats my usual response when the math gets too hard!  |
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Posted: Wed, 30 Jun 2004, 8:06am Post subject: |
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My reasoning is:
I can have 1, 2 or 3 Reds.
Case 1 : 3 reds; there are 9 diff ways 3 reds can be on the fences, and only (2^2)-2 = 2 ways the rest can be Chosen, hence 9*2= 18
Case 2 : 2 Reds 10 diff ways , and (2^3)- 2 = 6 hence 10*6 = 60
Case 3 : 1 red Can be in 5 places, and (2^4)-2 = 14 hence 5*14 = 70 |
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Case 1 is incorrect  |
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Yeah - You are close, you have made a mistake and I know what it is as I done the same thing  |
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and we have a winner!!!
We have 3 colors and 5 panels.
Step 1
Total combinations therefore are 3^5=243
Step 2
We now need to remove all the combinations where only 2 or less are used.
2^5=32 We have 3 combinations of paint Red/Blue Red Green Blue/Green
(2^5)*3=96
243-96=147
Step 3
We now have 147 however in step two we removed all red/blue/green combinations twice. i.e. once for Red/Blue and once for Red/Green which would remove RRRRR twice.
We add this 3 back to arrive at 150
Answer = 150 |
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