Limit holdem 72o BB?

Why do people play 72o??????????????

I am trying the poll thing out, don't flame me if it's all F'ed up.

Anyways,

I am trying to see if anyone can explain how 72o could be playable in ANY position in Limit Holdem with a raised pot.

I could only see one possibility of playing it.

If you feel you can, an explaination would be nice.

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Simple......pot odds....

I think the key here isn't just that you are asking about playing it in a raised pot from the big blind, but you are asking about playing it in a raised pot from the big blind in a LIMIT game. Sorry, but I would NEVER play it in this situation.

i said "yes if it would be heads-up with the original raiser", but i wanted to qualify that a little.

you're the huge stack in an SNG, and the raise has come from a tiny stack (everyone else folds) that's obviously getting nervous. rather than pushing all-in preflop which they should, they tentatively raise it. so you call from the BB with your 72o. if you catch any part of the flop, you push them all-in. if you miss the flop, push them all-in anyway - they've shown weakness, and are playing scared. and since you're in the BB, you're first to bet, so they don't know what you have.

worst case - you lose 400-500 chips that really don't have an effect on your huge stack (in a 10 person SNG start with 800 chips each - i'm talking 4500 chips plus). best case, you eliminate an opponent without having to risk much. you also send a confusing message "hmm, he's the big stack, but playing crap..."

Well, since I don't see any positive way of playing 72o under most, and probably all situations in the long run, I agree with the majority of the voters. I think a few got confused and answered with a NL mind.

The only way I could see a play with 72o (which would have to be a bluff, unless you got a remarkable flop on your preflop bluff) would be if you believe that the original raiser would be the only one in the hand.

If that is the circumstance, then I would think to reraise the original raiser, fire out a bet on the flop, no matter what hit. If he is a player that can fold his raised hand then the play would work. (assuming he hit nothing on the flop, and doesn't reraise you preflop..., have a high pocket pair...etc)

Although I voted that I never would play it in a raised pot, I can see that play as an option under the right circumstances. I have not made that play, but that doesn't mean that I won't if the right situation comes up. It hasn't for me yet, or perhaps I am not nearly good enough to see the right situation for that play.

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If its heads up I can see the pros and cons for calling and folding. I came down on the side of folding for the following reasons.

1 - There would be 7SBs in the pot so you are getting 7:2 odds.

2 - If you managed to get a 7 on the flop you would probably call a bet on each street so now the odds are close to even money. Even on a 7 high board you could be beat by 88 upwards.

In Summary the risks are to high in relation to the rewards.

Multi Pot

You have much better odds 38:2 or 19:1 You would need to hit the flop very hard to win, whether the pot odds justify it I'm not sure.

If it was suited and was multiway I'd call everytime.

Not sure if you were talking to me Toasty??

I was explaining how reraising a heads up hand preflop as the only way I could see this hand working. Which I don't do though.

No, I don't see how 19/1 is good odds on a 72o. I would think you would need ATLEAST 2 pair.

If that is the case you have a 4% chance of hitting on the flop.

IMHO I can only see reraising the original raiser heads up preflop to bluff him out as a play with that hand. Although, like I said - It's not a play that I would be doing. That being said, I can see someone explaining how that is a move they can make with it.

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