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Posted: Wed, 30 Mar 2005, 11:56am Post subject: do you ever fold an A high flush in limit?
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Full House
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For example:
You have:
A  Q
Flop is:
T 5 K 
Turn is:
K
River is:
K 
2 others cap turn and river.
should I be staying in?
ps: this is at low limits.
pps: is the correct play to basically stop 3-betting and capping (just call a 3bet/cap) when there is a better draw possible? |
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Posted: Wed, 30 Mar 2005, 12:30pm Post subject:
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Straight
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| Your question is over-simplified. Without positioning, action, opponent, reads, etc., its impossible to say yes or no. Sometimes I'm folding this, other times, Im calling, other times I'm capping. All are dependent on the individual hand. |
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Posted: Wed, 30 Mar 2005, 1:30pm Post subject:
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Full House
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| Room wrote: | | Your question is over-simplified. Without positioning, action, opponent, reads, etc., its impossible to say yes or no. Sometimes I'm folding this, other times, Im calling, other times I'm capping. All are dependent on the individual hand. |
Which times would you consider capping a board that has 3 Kings on it and you have a flush? It would be idiotic to even call one bet on the river. You are beat under any circumstances. By calling a bet on the river, you are assuming that they don't have a ten, a five, a king or any pocket pair at all. After the action on the previous rounds that would be a mistake. |
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Posted: Wed, 30 Mar 2005, 1:59pm Post subject:
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Straight
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| In my reread, I stand shamefully corrected. Maybe I shouldnt be posting at work. |
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Posted: Thu, 31 Mar 2005, 1:04am Post subject:
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Royal Flush
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Location: Walk the Walk, Flop the Flop.
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| Easy laydown if it looks like it's going to be more than 1BB to showdown. |
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Posted: Thu, 31 Mar 2005, 10:34am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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| With that kind of early street action, it's obvious someone caught some kind of piece. That's all it takes to beat you here. I bet the nut flush was running third after the river. |
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Posted: Thu, 31 Mar 2005, 1:16pm Post subject:
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Flush
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| Of course you fold...ive folded an Ace high flush when the board paired on the river and it got bet and raised infront of me when before that i was leading the betting the whole way. You know you are beat so why to "pay to see it". |
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Posted: Thu, 31 Mar 2005, 1:31pm Post subject:
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Straight
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| Grand_MasterB wrote: | | Of course you fold...ive folded an Ace high flush when the board paired on the river and it got bet and raised infront of me when before that i was leading the betting the whole way. You know you are beat so why to "pay to see it". |
I love when people do that. They will call saying "I know you got the A, but I gotta see."  |
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Posted: Thu, 31 Mar 2005, 8:24pm Post subject:
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Royal Flush
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| Grand_MasterB wrote: | | Of course you fold...ive folded an Ace high flush when the board paired on the river and it got bet and raised infront of me when before that i was leading the betting the whole way. You know you are beat so why to "pay to see it". |
Quite often folding here for a single bet is a mistake. You often need to be more than 90% sure, even more than 95% sure sometimes to make that fold. |
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Posted: Fri, 01 Apr 2005, 3:32pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
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| Fnord wrote: | | Grand_MasterB wrote: | | Of course you fold...ive folded an Ace high flush when the board paired on the river and it got bet and raised infront of me when before that i was leading the betting the whole way. You know you are beat so why to "pay to see it". |
Quite often folding here for a single bet is a mistake. You often need to be more than 90% sure, even more than 95% sure sometimes to make that fold. |
I agree. Though not desirable, it would be a much larger disaster to fold the winner than to find out for one more bet. Sometimes people bet at you with a board like this just to represent the house and hope you fold because you don't have it. God what a dog crying call though.
More than one bet and I'm folding like a lawnchair |
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