Chop's op's..

ok. i am trying to commit to accountability here. many of you have been a complete help to me, and you are the only ones i care to have watch this since this is sort of a newer home for me.

follow it, dont follow it, i really dont care. i am just going to chronicle my growth and try and fix leaks as i go. jeff, please dont move this to the "op" section for awhile because i feel it will benefit some others here, too.

i plan to post both sessions and hands...possibly vid links, if we ever get that going. i hope to really dive into some of them...again, with some help. if i post a hand that needs some detailed discussion, please point it out, and i will copy the HH into its own thread. that way i can continue to post frequently in this thread.

right now, i feel i am "ok" at the microstakes, but feel i need a ton of work to get "good."

watch for: valuebetting, overplaying, stupid slowplays, giving too much credit for hands, semibluffing call stations. thanks, in advance.

wanted to make a small effort tonight since i posted this thread.

played about 100 hands of 6max at cake. traffic blew so i played one 25/50c and one (are you ready?) 04./08c table. i rarely play more than two because i am still trying to watch intently, as i think it really helps get an extra bet or two per 100 hands. three just doesnt allow me to pay as close attention just yet, but i am working on it.

made $3...woohoo. but, i sat next to a huge donk. this guy was on my immediate left and 3bet every hand i raised. he bluffed his ass off more than once. so, i never folded Ahi+ when HU. he spewed me more than $3. i ran ok on that table, he spewed, and i ran like dog crap at the 04/08c table. lol.

i should have stuck around, but i am tired. and, dont expect HHs from cake all that often, as they are a bitch to find/post. i'm there for the juiciest Rakeback known to an american player.

po (peace-out)

Nice post, i should do one too, i'll try to do a 2nd vid to fire up the place!
Most of those leaks are common to most of us at one point or another, it'll be good to see all responses and other ppls opinions.
Cheers Chop!

another quick session, as i dont have much time to play lately. but, finished up another $9ish or so.

beautiful thing, though....cake Rakeback is over $27 in just 2400 hands played this month. i'll take that.

i am trying to pay attention to goofy hands that pop up, but i didnt see any tonight, either. fairly standard. hit a flush from the sb with crappy suited cards...standard. iso3bet the hell out of a LAGtard i have notes on, and schooled him until he left...standard. never hit anything against him...lol...just never folded. he hit one pot and gave me 3. that bluffy bastard Twisted Evil

. kind of like watching myself in reverse. but, like i said, that is changing...

till next time,
po

I was just saying you didn't include anything from preflop, not that I didn't want postflop Razz

Preflops are more math based than postflop and for that matter aren't as difficult to solve.

one..board had one paint on it. i had an overcard A, probably 75% clean. people limp AX all the time, and i've seen AQ limp. but, its not often. not too connected, either. say...Qs 8c 5s -ish. i didnt like calling two cold, either. but, i couldnt find any legitimacy in 3betting that to definitely drive out customers i need.

two..hell, isolation rarely seems to work down here with all the cold calling. i like to raise hands like KTs, QJs, A8s, maybe KJo. but, i like doing it with limpers already in to sort of build a post flop pot...and for equity. but, does that equity do us much good if we still take a flop 4 handed and simply betting when checked to doesnt do anything to protect our hand? all it seems to do is avoid free cards...which is probably reason enough to lead out. i remember you guys saying to take the flop off and wait for a safer turn. i just dont like that, either, because players seem to pick up draws on turns, and they are still getting 4:1 because the whole pot was bloated by all the cold calling pre and the flop betting. (sounds like heaven, but it leads to Q6 rivering your AQ with the damned 6, or the gutters hitting, or runner runner crap).

letting go of whiffed hands would be like...i raise KJs and board comes Q 8 5 r only to see someone lead into me? or A9s when the flop delivers Q J 5 two suited, but not mine? because cbetting all but the driest of boards is bordering on spew.

lowering the WA/WB situation is a great tip! i like that because i am tighter, i rarely have kicker problems. i get two-paired a lot, but i dont mind that so much because i know they made a bad decision in the first place to call down with Q7.

SB is about my favorite spot, to be honest. i love pissing them off with 93s and the flush. but, i dont do it unless i have 2+ limpers. i dont like those hands 3way. mistake? i also raise any A if the btn limps. i dont care if the BB comes in, too. i want that stupid btn to pay. seems to work.

thanks. i really haven't got much to complain about. i beat that site quite easily. i just see them as SO bad, i want to beat them worse. and, therefore, i am always looking for the "ideal" style for these stakes.

one..i have been looking for "other things" so often lately, i forgot to notice the biggest fundamental..."if you have more equity than players, RAISE!" and, this was it. 3 players, and i likely have 33%+. thanks. i totally missed that one, and thought i was jamming with Ahi and a non-made hand when definitely behind. darn it.

two..thanks for the explanation. i need to remind myself of these things often...or, as you see, i will get stuck asking the same (basic) questions over and over. i feel i protect well because i am always looking for reasons to do so. but, when no one ahead of me bets, its hard to make them play incorrectly, and thats the frustrating part. its like live low stakes LHE. no one raises, but no one folds, either.

again, pstove will help me some more in figuring how much to open up in these situations. when its 4way, i only need more than 25% to ram the shit out of it pf. and, 3way, 33%. the question, again, is will they allow it by raising also. and, when they do, how tight is THEIR raising range. obv, things you guys cant answer. i'm just talking to myself right now.

the losing 67% of the time, and the idea you keep mentioning in your vid review thread is: "it only has to work 1 in 10 to be profitable." we/i keep losing sight of that. i feel that if i lose 3/5 times, i am sucking. the truth is i may still be making money in those situations...lol.

i have already started playing complete trash in family pots from the SB. its hard to make myself do it, but i do see the odds i am getting.

however, if i complete, and BB raises, can i really fold T6o when it comes back around still as a family pot? i suppose my odds arent really as good because now its 9:1-11:1 instead of 13+:1. but, i also have reason to believe somebody has something, too. that should further devalue my trash a bit, yes?

ps, didnt play last night. i will give a numbers summary of the month in a week or so. but, if things dont go all to hell, it'll still be up a good bit. these basic questions are to keep hammering concepts into my head so i dont forget, as i obviously do forget...lol. i just tend to work on fancier concepts at the expense of some of the basics at times.

micro lunch session. up $4.

i had a KJs hand that i raised. villain oop calls me after limping. i flop top KJ8r. he leads, i raise, he 3bets, i cap. i dont see a lot of capping flops here, so i get a little wary (this is prolly another post flop leak, jeff...lol). turn is A. i stop and immediately notice QT, but think QT may open raise and may not be there. but, sets? not KK or JJ, though. he leads, i raise, he 3bets, i only call? i cant see much worse going ballistic like this. river is brick. he checks, i bet (and know i have him now and missed a cap on the damned turn). if he had much, he would have led again, knowing i would raise. i knew EXACTLY what he held. J8s. and, yes, thats what he had.

but, should i have capped turn? against standard villains that are only 3betting/capping nut hands, is this right? it could have been another two pair with the A or a set or possibly QT. was i right in backing off when he 3bet me?

he didnt overplay another hand in the next four orbits i was there, either. so, i guess what i am asking is: when we hit top two on a relatively dry board against unknown villains at a limit where caps mean super nuts, do we still cap all streets and take the suckout? is top two that strong in 6max? i think if villain keeps pushing, at some point we need to evaluate the board and slow down a bit. amirong??

i went back to the dirty side last night and played some NL. lol. my LHE game, as always, really gives me a burst of winnings on the NL tables.

i sat in with my friend, pythonic, on some 6max 5NL tables. usually, i spew down there because i am just trying to screw with him a bit. but, last night i tried to stay disciplined and play my best.

finished up $27 over 550 hands, AND stacked my boy in the process on one of the toughest calls i had to make all night. he tends to only stack off with the nuts, but i also know he is capable of bluffing, too, especially against me. here's the hand, fwiw...

$0.02/$0.05 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($10.11)
UTG+1 ($3.30)
CO PYTHONIC ($8.10)
Hero ($11.99)
SB ($3.81)
BB ($4.89)

Pre-flop: ($0.07, 6 players) Hero is BTN Queen of Hearts

1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.05, CO raises to $0.25, Hero raises to $0.80, 2 folds, UTG+1 folds, CO calls $0.55

Flop: Eight of Spades

($1.72, 2 players)
CO bets $1.10, Hero raises to $2.50, CO goes all-in $7.30, Hero calls $4.80

Turn: Queen of Clubs

($16.32, 2 players)

River: Nine of Spades

($16.32, 2 players)

Final Pot: $16.32
CO shows: Ace of Clubs

Hero shows: Queen of Hearts

Hero wins $15.52 ( won +$7.42 )
UTG+1 lost -$0.05
CO lost -$8.10

not much in the way of hands to show. but, i have really been bouncing over the stakes/games the last two days.

i am rolled for 2/4 LHE and somewhere between 50 and 100NL, but refuse to move up....partially not used to the money...partially i'm a br nit. but, whatever.

i played well, but didnt show well yesterday. down about $20 because 50/1 FR killed me while i was trying to jack up the RB. i sat on three of those tables, and one 25/50c table. the 25/50, i doubled through with good cards/situations rather easily. but, ran two bad bluffs and got caught with my pants down on the 50/1's.

i also nitted up some 4NL and 10NL FR while waiting for some LHE's to open. doubled through about 3 times on those. it was a nice feeling to trap some donkeys with good flops. one chump three bet A4s twice. i caught him the second time when i 3bet him with J9s HU in position and hit a 9 hi flop. he felted the 4 as bottom pair. i said, thank you. it was rather loose on my part, but i was rather short at the time, and the sizing just pulled us both in since the 9 was still TP on the river. i was worried about TT+, but knew he would likely have popped me if he had something like that.

we'll have to check the RB and see what we generated to overcome the poor-ish day. but, again, i know when i play well and things just dont fall into place. this was one of those days for sure.

nothing spectacular to report. spent most of the day house hunting, but still logged some hands. mixture again from FRLHE to NL..no money swung into or out of my pockets...lol. three days left in month..and till i post some content, unless i think of something first. end of month i plan a graph of winnings, stats on RB, and maybe a total bankroll update.

on bright side, i am setting a personal record for RB this month. sitting on about $35 from mostly 25/50c 6max LHE play. cant beat that. god bless RB.

till tomorrow...for now, its bedtime.

playing a lot of FR LHE lately. trying to apply Stox and Miller's ranges and play tactics. also trying to get "live ready" for when a buddy comes to town in a couple months. so, playing super low stakes where they play "no foldem holdem."

seems at low stakes they call any bet, but not two...however, they dont ever raise w/o the nuts themselves. not as tough a nut to crack as i originally thought. just play alot of big multiway type hands to a limp, raise all your premiums, open your raising range when the hand is getting short-handed, watch WHO you can pick on and when, and valuebet the shit out of them while you arent bluffing w/o 8+ outs.

i am running about 30/12/1.8 right now. i am not winning many pots. but, the ones i do win are doozies for sure.

since i've been playing at super low stakes, i've been at stars more often. i may post some hands shortly. stay tuned...

wow. what a horrid short session. and, at 5/10c no less. i couldnt catch a cold. and, one hand i hit a straight in a big pot only to get flushed on the river by a noted chaser. i actually made proper folds that looked against odds, but based on reads they were pretty big laydowns. that, of course, is easier to do when you are running this cold, as you can predict the river card that fucks you before it gets dealt. but, watching showdowns, they were all correct. so, the session could have been worse. oh well.

here's a pic of it because i just love wallowing in the misery...for the next 5 minutes.

oh, look at the sweet-ass W$SD and W$WSF stats. well, at least i didnt pay any rake...lol.

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