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fuck my life: spot i get in against aggros 10/20

  
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Massimo
Post Posted: Fri, 05 Sep 2008, 6:08am    Post subject: fuck my life: spot i get in against aggros 10/20 Reply with quote
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villain is Gabe, no real reads besides that i know he runs loose and is very aggro and i think he knows that this is me. Just curious what your plan is here.

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Hero (BB) ($2000)
UTG ($2208)
MP ($2000)
CO ($2726)
Button ($7150)
SB ($1980)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K, Q
3 folds, Button raises to $60, 1 fold, Hero calls $40

Flop: ($130) J, 9, K (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks

Turn: ($130) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $100, Button raises to $340, Hero
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IowaSkinsFan
Post Posted: Fri, 05 Sep 2008, 8:36am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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The most likely hand in range is T8, but honestly this is a super easy fold. It's like the same as the deeb hand. First off you have nut hands in your range, and a solid amount of them. QT/KJ/99/77. Secondly, gabe is repping a thin range and may expect you to spazz because of it. Thirdly, the chance of you folding here is very slim anyways. So yeah i'd just muck.
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Post Posted: Fri, 05 Sep 2008, 8:49am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I was gonna say I thought 777 was the most likely hand in his range, with T8 also likely but not as likely cause he'd bet T8 a reasonable amount of the time on the flop I'd imagine.

Either way, I fold this OOP. There are waaay too many bad cards that can come on the river, and we'll be playing a huge guessing game at best.
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IowaSkinsFan
Post Posted: Fri, 05 Sep 2008, 3:01pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Yeah 77 or T8 ofc missed 77
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Post Posted: Fri, 05 Sep 2008, 6:21pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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IowaSkinsFan wrote:
The most likely hand in range is T8, but honestly this is a super easy fold. It's like the same as the deeb hand. First off you have nut hands in your range, and a solid amount of them. QT/KJ/99/77. Secondly, gabe is repping a thin range and may expect you to spazz because of it. Thirdly, the chance of you folding here is very slim anyways. So yeah i'd just muck.


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gabe
Post Posted: Fri, 05 Sep 2008, 8:34pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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ooooooh forgot all about that one!

if the suits of the 9 and the 7 were switched id at least call, i think
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Massimo
Post Posted: Fri, 05 Sep 2008, 9:37pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Yeah all the replies make sense. I guess my problem with this hand was that my range actually is exploitable because i will put him on those hands and fold a shitload. I guess he shouldn't expect me to though.

Has anyone here ever played Elky or Dario? They seem to raise in this spot and actually be bluffing, and i assumed that maybe there was something about this spot i didn't get.
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gabe
Post Posted: Fri, 05 Sep 2008, 10:06pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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durrr uses weird lines like this alot too. im trying to play like him lately... thoughts on how i played if i said i had TT?
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Massimo
Post Posted: Sat, 06 Sep 2008, 12:05am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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gabe wrote:
durrr uses weird lines like this alot too. im trying to play like him lately... thoughts on how i played if i said i had TT?


Well played against me specifically cause i usually give people credit when they do this. I remember that i called and the river was an A of spades... i think. And then you overshoved, which is exactly why i posted the hand. It was so FoS that i thought you may have been bluffing to begin with.
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gabe
Post Posted: Sat, 06 Sep 2008, 12:13am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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river was off suit ace, which makes a differnce
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Post Posted: Sat, 06 Sep 2008, 12:32am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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oh ok nvm then.
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Massimo
Post Posted: Sat, 06 Sep 2008, 12:33am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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If you had a dry Ten i'll give you 10k
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Massimo
Post Posted: Sat, 06 Sep 2008, 12:39am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Thinking about it more this is a cool spot raise with TT. It's too weak to be a call and if you raise you'll most likely get to see a river against 5/10 or 10/20 regs, and when you hit you may get paid off anyway, whereas if you called, hit, and bet river you may not.
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Post Posted: Sat, 06 Sep 2008, 3:51am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Massimo wrote:
If you had a dry Ten i'll give you 10k
lol
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Post Posted: Sat, 06 Sep 2008, 5:38am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Massimo wrote:
If you had a dry Ten i'll give you 10k


lol awesome

I think Gabe's line here is good against a player that can fold, and that makes bigger folds when they are OOP. Some regs are just so stationy though, and they'd for sure look for a hero call in this spot with villain's weird drawy line.
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Post Posted: Sat, 06 Sep 2008, 11:53am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I think I may like it if he has TT simply because it seems like the better move then calling or folding. I think in general in this spot players are probably going to think there are a lot of draws on the board and that gabe could be bluffing a high frequency and then make some spew. Especially if hero has some sort of combo draw like a pair and fd or pair and double belly buster.
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Post Posted: Sat, 06 Sep 2008, 2:49pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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3bet pre like always

bet flop enough said
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