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Posted: Fri, 05 Sep 2008, 6:08am Post subject: fuck my life: spot i get in against aggros 10/20
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Almost as bad as that idiot heybude

Joined: 06 Aug 2006
Posts: 2741 WPP: 72
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villain is Gabe, no real reads besides that i know he runs loose and is very aggro and i think he knows that this is me. Just curious what your plan is here.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $20.00 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
Hero (BB) ($2000)
UTG ($2208)
MP ($2000)
CO ($2726)
Button ($7150)
SB ($1980)
Preflop: Hero is BB with K , Q
3 folds, Button raises to $60, 1 fold, Hero calls $40
Flop: ($130) J , 9 , K (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks
Turn: ($130) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $100, Button raises to $340, Hero |
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Posted: Fri, 05 Sep 2008, 8:36am Post subject:
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Almost as bad as that idiot redgrape

Joined: 29 Oct 2004
Posts: 6113 WPP: 73
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| The most likely hand in range is T8, but honestly this is a super easy fold. It's like the same as the deeb hand. First off you have nut hands in your range, and a solid amount of them. QT/KJ/99/77. Secondly, gabe is repping a thin range and may expect you to spazz because of it. Thirdly, the chance of you folding here is very slim anyways. So yeah i'd just muck. |
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Posted: Fri, 05 Sep 2008, 8:49am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 06 Sep 2006
Posts: 2117 WPP: 97
Location: Toronto'ish
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I was gonna say I thought 777 was the most likely hand in his range, with T8 also likely but not as likely cause he'd bet T8 a reasonable amount of the time on the flop I'd imagine.
Either way, I fold this OOP. There are waaay too many bad cards that can come on the river, and we'll be playing a huge guessing game at best. |
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Posted: Fri, 05 Sep 2008, 3:01pm Post subject:
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Almost as bad as that idiot redgrape

Joined: 29 Oct 2004
Posts: 6113 WPP: 73
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| Yeah 77 or T8 ofc missed 77 |
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Posted: Fri, 05 Sep 2008, 6:21pm Post subject:
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midstakes donk

Joined: 08 Sep 2005
Posts: 2290 WPP: 46
Location: flattin ur 4bets, makin u tilt
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| IowaSkinsFan wrote: | | The most likely hand in range is T8, but honestly this is a super easy fold. It's like the same as the deeb hand. First off you have nut hands in your range, and a solid amount of them. QT/KJ/99/77. Secondly, gabe is repping a thin range and may expect you to spazz because of it. Thirdly, the chance of you folding here is very slim anyways. So yeah i'd just muck. |
[ ] no
[x] yes |
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Posted: Fri, 05 Sep 2008, 8:34pm Post subject:
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EAT BUGS

Joined: 07 Dec 2004
Posts: 7810 WPP: 51
Location: trying to live
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ooooooh forgot all about that one!
if the suits of the 9 and the 7 were switched id at least call, i think |
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Posted: Fri, 05 Sep 2008, 9:37pm Post subject:
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Almost as bad as that idiot heybude

Joined: 06 Aug 2006
Posts: 2741 WPP: 72
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Yeah all the replies make sense. I guess my problem with this hand was that my range actually is exploitable because i will put him on those hands and fold a shitload. I guess he shouldn't expect me to though.
Has anyone here ever played Elky or Dario? They seem to raise in this spot and actually be bluffing, and i assumed that maybe there was something about this spot i didn't get. |
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Posted: Fri, 05 Sep 2008, 10:06pm Post subject:
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EAT BUGS

Joined: 07 Dec 2004
Posts: 7810 WPP: 51
Location: trying to live
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| durrr uses weird lines like this alot too. im trying to play like him lately... thoughts on how i played if i said i had TT? |
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Posted: Sat, 06 Sep 2008, 12:05am Post subject:
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Almost as bad as that idiot heybude

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Posts: 2741 WPP: 72
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| gabe wrote: | | durrr uses weird lines like this alot too. im trying to play like him lately... thoughts on how i played if i said i had TT? |
Well played against me specifically cause i usually give people credit when they do this. I remember that i called and the river was an A of spades... i think. And then you overshoved, which is exactly why i posted the hand. It was so FoS that i thought you may have been bluffing to begin with. |
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Posted: Sat, 06 Sep 2008, 12:13am Post subject:
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EAT BUGS

Joined: 07 Dec 2004
Posts: 7810 WPP: 51
Location: trying to live
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| river was off suit ace, which makes a differnce |
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Posted: Sat, 06 Sep 2008, 12:32am Post subject:
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Almost as bad as that idiot heybude

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Posts: 2741 WPP: 72
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Posted: Sat, 06 Sep 2008, 12:33am Post subject:
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Almost as bad as that idiot heybude

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| If you had a dry Ten i'll give you 10k |
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Posted: Sat, 06 Sep 2008, 12:39am Post subject:
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Almost as bad as that idiot heybude

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| Thinking about it more this is a cool spot raise with TT. It's too weak to be a call and if you raise you'll most likely get to see a river against 5/10 or 10/20 regs, and when you hit you may get paid off anyway, whereas if you called, hit, and bet river you may not. |
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Posted: Sat, 06 Sep 2008, 3:51am Post subject:
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Crazy Canadian Courtiebwnage

Joined: 29 May 2005
Posts: 2429 WPP: 98
Location: xianti made me do it
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| Massimo wrote: | | If you had a dry Ten i'll give you 10k | lol |
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Posted: Sat, 06 Sep 2008, 5:38am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 06 Sep 2006
Posts: 2117 WPP: 97
Location: Toronto'ish
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| Massimo wrote: | | If you had a dry Ten i'll give you 10k |
lol awesome
I think Gabe's line here is good against a player that can fold, and that makes bigger folds when they are OOP. Some regs are just so stationy though, and they'd for sure look for a hero call in this spot with villain's weird drawy line. |
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Posted: Sat, 06 Sep 2008, 11:53am Post subject:
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Almost as bad as that idiot redgrape

Joined: 29 Oct 2004
Posts: 6113 WPP: 73
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| I think I may like it if he has TT simply because it seems like the better move then calling or folding. I think in general in this spot players are probably going to think there are a lot of draws on the board and that gabe could be bluffing a high frequency and then make some spew. Especially if hero has some sort of combo draw like a pair and fd or pair and double belly buster. |
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Posted: Sat, 06 Sep 2008, 2:49pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 15 Feb 2007
Posts: 1957 WPP: 55
Location: Dizzy
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3bet pre like always
bet flop enough said |
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