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gosam
Post Posted: Sun, 17 Aug 2008, 2:30pm    Post subject: Is this a shove? Reply with quote
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$0.1/$0.2 No Limit Holdem
9 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG berni64 ($4.00)
UTG+1 KJerryK ($4.00)
MP1 CappyBeires1 ($31.39)
MP2 GrafEvgeny ($12.60)
MP3 avfc1 ($16.21)
CO gosam770 ($32.70)
BTN playcazry ($25.45)
SB NNNexX ($3.80)
BB howy52 ($25.90)

Pre-flop: ($0.30, 9 players)
5 folds, gosam770 raises to $0.80, 2 folds, howy52 calls $0.60

Flop: Queen of Spades Queen of Diamonds King of Clubs ($1.70, 2 players)
howy52 bets $0.20, gosam770 calls $0.20

Turn: Ten of Diamonds ($2.10, 2 players)
howy52 checks, gosam770 bets $0.80, howy52 raises to $4.50, gosam770 calls $3.70

River: Three of Clubs ($11.10, 2 players)
howy52 bets $11.10, gosam770 calls $11.10

Final Pot: $32.30
gosam770 shows: Ten of Spades Ten of Hearts
howy52 shows: Jack of Diamonds Ace of Hearts

gosam770 wins $32.30 ( won +$15.70 )
howy52 lost -$16.60

I somehow wasn't convinced I had the best hand, especially with the flop minbet. I've noticed a lot of people do it with monsters.
So how bad did I play it?
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Dude_Here
Post Posted: Sun, 17 Aug 2008, 3:07pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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**warning - beginner source for advice

Tuff hand. His line is basically monster/draw, please don't calll. His range that beats you is down to QQ, KK, QK. I could see vill shoving - AK, AQ, KJ, QJ, KT or underpairs at these stakes. I like the call once you've made you FH. If he flopped a bigger FH then so be it. I think you should have bet stronger on the turn. If you were willing to call the all in you should have been building a bigger pot. We are either playing for stacks here or folding to the shove.

NH
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badgers
Post Posted: Sun, 17 Aug 2008, 3:11pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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bet turn properly

pleaaaaaase get it in somehow either 3bet turn or shove river.
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wufwugy
Post Posted: Sun, 17 Aug 2008, 3:55pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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dont really think anybody will have much good to say here since its 1kbb deep and 2nl plays mega mega mega donk. none of us have much experience with either of those.

how deep it is makes stacking off terrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrible, but its quite likely that at 2nl Q2 can call a shove. Q2 instacalls if its 250bb deep, but i dunno about 1kbb deep.
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badgers
Post Posted: Sun, 17 Aug 2008, 4:05pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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wufwugy wrote:
dont really think anybody will have much good to say here since its 1kbb deep and 2nl plays mega mega mega donk. none of us have much experience with either of those.

how deep it is makes stacking off terrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrible, but its quite likely that at 2nl Q2 can call a shove. Q2 instacalls if its 250bb deep, but i dunno about 1kbb deep.


wat?

this is 20nl and it's 125BB deep.
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ATOTHEC101
Post Posted: Sun, 17 Aug 2008, 4:22pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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wufwugy wrote:
dont really think anybody will have much good to say here since its 1kbb deep and 2nl plays mega mega mega donk. none of us have much experience with either of those.

how deep it is makes stacking off terrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrible, but its quite likely that at 2nl Q2 can call a shove. Q2 instacalls if its 250bb deep, but i dunno about 1kbb deep.


someone missed out a decimal place.
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ATOTHEC101
Post Posted: Sun, 17 Aug 2008, 4:26pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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And on the hand, get all the money in somehow.
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nice_aiau
Post Posted: Sun, 17 Aug 2008, 8:49pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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If your beat here, its a major cooler.
The flop minibet is nothing to worried about.
3bet that turn...
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