A cure for running bad.

If you've been running super good for a decent amount of hands, you almost expect some bad variance to flick you in the nuts eventually.

When the negative variance kicks in, simply move down to 2nl for a few thousand hands. Its so simple its rediculous. Thoughts?

If you mean when your playing deteriorates you drop down in stakes (might as well play playmoney), then yes.

If you mean that you somehow magically know when you will get good cards and bad cards, then no.

Someone page Youngdro pls

do you mean dropping down because then the bad beats wont cost as much???

I suppose its not a cure for running bad, but a cure for saving money whilst running bad.

I know that bad/good runs don't go for a certain amount of hands, its random. But if say.. you had been on a bad streak for 5 k hands..move down in stakes until u feel that your hands are holding up..then back up you go.
I suppose i should probably just take my bad runs like a man, and let my good BRM take care of it..but still, losing money sucks. Wouldn't hurt to try this out.

Hmm. And who is young dro?

That's not how variance works?

But at it's core, the idea it there. Move down when you're running bad.

It works, not because minimizing losses in "bad run" - bad runs and good runs can be only defined after result, not beforehand. But moving down helps with dealing with tilt.

Vrax said it.

If you have been unlucky and your A-game suffers as a result. You are annoyed, you are frustrated, you want to win a big hand now etc etc - do not continue playing at stakes that are challenging to you. You could take a break. Or you could play some at lower stakes. Both work - but the important thing is not that you're reducing your 'running bad' loss by playing at a lower stake - it's that you are addressing the tilt that is making you play poorly.

If the plain bad luck component doesn't phase you and you still make the best decisions possible you should not move down. You should just keep grinding. But when you assess whether or not you are affected you have to be absolutely truthful to yourself.

This seems like "buy high, sell low" - the worst investment advice ever. If you drop down when you run bad, then the upswing will happen at lower stakes than you were playing when you were running bad.

Am I missing something here? Cuz this seems kinda crazy to me.

I heard/read some pro utter something on this not so long ago.

You are never running bad.

By this I mean that you are never in the middle of a bad stretch. If you THINK you are in the middle of a bad stretch you are ASSUMING that the near future will hold bad luck for you. That is UNREALISTIC to the point of being IDIOTIC.

Ok, I'll stop now.

The point he made was that you can look at a past period and say that from date x to date y I ran bad. You cannot by definition say that you are right now running bad as you are suggesting that you know that you're in the middle of it - and thus predicting how your luck will be in the immediate future. You may be at the very beginning of a massive bad run or you may be at the very end of one and about to enter an upswing or breakeven stretch. The only thing you know is that you could not possibly know.

The only way you can be running bad is if you are convinced you are running bad and therefore subconsciously make yourself run bad. Maybe you tighten up and give away edges - hurting your EV - or you play much more aggressively to take pots through aggression because the cards won't be helping you - spewing off stacks of chips. That is why it is important not to let yourself believe that you are running bad. If you start believing it - it's a form of tilt and needs to be addressed as a form of tilt. Moving down might be the right reply to this particular form of tilt if it allows you to settle down and gives you the confidence to play your A game at your normal stakes. A break might work just as well.

Running bad only exists in the mind. It's like suggesting a cure for someone who thinks they are cursed for a fixed amount of time.

If you have been running bad - thats history and thats poker.
If you think you will run continue to run bad for a period of time - thats tilt.
Moving down is an excellent idea when you are tilting.

"Flop more sets" - Lukie

$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
PokerStars
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($266.60)
UTG+1 ($109.15)
CO ($244.35)
BTN ($190.00)
SB ($207.00)
Hero ($237.00)

Pre-flop: ($3, 6 players) Hero is BB Jack of Clubs

UTG raises to $8, 4 folds, Hero calls $6

Flop: Jack of Spades

($17, 2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $12, Hero raises to $34, UTG raises to $80, Hero goes all-in $229, UTG calls $149

Turn: Eight of Clubs

($475, 2 players)

River: Ace of Hearts

($475, 2 players)

Final Pot: $475
Hero shows: Jack of Clubs

UTG shows: Seven of Diamonds

Hero wins $472 ( won +$235 )
UTG lost -$237.00

Here's a cure for running bad: play good
by that I mean don't get tilted and play your winning game and eventually you'll start running good if you employ correct BR management

Cure for running bad:

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