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Borax
Post Posted: Thu, 26 Jun 2008, 4:56pm    Post subject: New to Omaha and need feedback on play - 3 hands PLO Reply with quote
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I am brand new to Omaha and need feedback on my play. I find it hard to move from Hold'em, but want to give it a shot.
How did I play here, what could I have done differently and why?

Hand 1:
Poker Room skin
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$0.50
10 players
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Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is SB with Queen of Hearts Ace of Diamonds Queen of Spades Ace of Hearts
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 raises to $2.5, 2 folds, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button folds, Hero raises to $13, 2 folds, UTG+2 calls, 2 folds.

Flop: 3 Heart 6 Diamond K Club ($32, 2 players)
Hero bets $33, UTG+2 raises all-in $74.25, Hero calls all-in $27.1.
Uncalled bets: $14.15 returned to UTG+2.

Turn: 9 Club ($152.2, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $152.2)


River: 2 Heart ($152.2, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $152.2)


Results:
Final pot: $152.2
UTG+2 shows TD KH 9S AS
Hero shows QH AD QS AH

Hand 2:
Poker Room skin
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$0.50
10 players
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Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is UTG+1 with Nine of Hearts Ten of Spades Jack of Hearts Ten of Clubs
UTG (poster) checks, Hero calls, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2, folds, MP3 (poster) checks, CO (poster) checks, Button calls, SB (poster) checks, BB (poster) checks.

Flop: 7 Spade 8 Spade 4 Heart ($4, 8 players)
SB checks, BB bets $3, UTG calls, Hero calls, 3 folds, Button calls, SB folds.

Turn: Q Heart ($16, 4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $16, Button raises to $64, 2 folds, Hero calls all-in $33.2.
Uncalled bets: $14.8 returned to Button.

River: 4 Club ($114.4, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $114.4)


Results:
Final pot: $114.4
Button shows 3D 6H 5H 6C
Hero shows 9H TS JH TC


Hand 3:
Poker Room skin
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$0.50
10 players
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Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is SB with Ten of Clubs Ten of Hearts Queen of Diamonds Jack of Spades
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls, 2 folds, CO calls, Button calls, Hero checks, BB raises to $0.5, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, CO calls, Button calls, Hero calls.

Flop: 9 Club T Diamond K Club ($3, 6 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $6, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls all-in $6, 2 folds, Hero raises to $36, BB calls all-in $3, UTG+1 raises all-in $44.45, Hero calls.

Turn: K Spade ($103.9, 1 player + 3 all-in - Main pot: $27, Sidepot 1: $9, Sidepot 2: $67.9)


River: 7 Heart ($103.9, 1 player + 3 all-in - Main pot: $27, Sidepot 1: $9, Sidepot 2: $67.9)


Results:
Final pot: $103.9
UTG+1 shows 7D QH 8S KH
MP1 shows 4S 5C AC 6C
Hero shows TC TH QD JS
BB shows JD JC 9D 9S
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Post Posted: Thu, 26 Jun 2008, 5:09pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Borax
Post Posted: Thu, 26 Jun 2008, 5:20pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Fnord wrote:
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sorry?
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Post Posted: Thu, 26 Jun 2008, 5:55pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Fnordish is an interesting dialect. He means these are no-brainer hands. All goot.
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Borax
Post Posted: Thu, 26 Jun 2008, 5:56pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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KoRnholio wrote:
Fnordish is an interesting dialect. He means these are no-brainer hands. All goot.


I see - thanks - Is he sure?
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Fnord
Post Posted: Thu, 26 Jun 2008, 6:30pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Hand 1: ZOMG AAxx REPOT. Not a big winning play long term but your opponent is so retarded that it worked out. I just call and play set here because so many worse hands will give you action. Set over set (or 2 pair) is about the best edge you'll get in Omahahahahahaha High like a kite.
Hand 2: Not excited about getting all the money in on the turn. Semi-bluffing the turn is a feel thing and I haven't played this game in a while.
Hand 3: You got the nut straight AND middle set. Nice 4 card hand to get it in with.
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salsa4ever
Post Posted: Thu, 26 Jun 2008, 8:08pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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hand 1
repotting preflop is fine here because you don't just have AAxx. you got AAQQ and a suited ace.
On the flop, I suppose you have to lead out, and i don't like such a huge bet. Lead $20, and you'll get the same result anyway.

hand 2
you're not representing anything credible here. Better to check and raise if neccessary based on stack sizes.

hand 3
ship it
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Borax
Post Posted: Fri, 27 Jun 2008, 3:37pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Thank you for your comment. I like Omaha so far, but it's costing me..
In one session I lost the three buy ins posted here plus another four similar and one where I tilted a bit..for a total of -400$ (8x 50$). Thats more buy ins than I ever loose on hold'em NL cash games in a session!

Still I build from 0-500$ quite easily on the 25$ level and now have to step down again I guess to rebuild.

A few questions if you don't mind:
Question Should I press hard with top set on the flop without any redraws?
Question How should I play KKxx hands where xx isn't any use? (like KK52)
Question Is it really a good idea to raise with AAxx unsuited at all?
Question How hard do i generally need to hit the flop to push in this game?
Question Do you play top two pair aggressively and how do you continue when reraised?
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Post Posted: Fri, 27 Jun 2008, 9:31pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Location: Taking the second pitch...
1) yes
2) fold
3) depends. If it's a shorty, or you can get close to 1/3 your stack in then yes. Otherwise play only for set value.
4) You need reads. They're more important in Omahaha.
5) Top 2 yes, probably getting it in. Top/bottom, maybe peel one looking for safe turn. Bottom 2 is garbage against any resistance.

Plug your hands in if it goes to showdown and check equity. One thing that helped me:
http://twodimes.net/poker/
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Borax
Post Posted: Sun, 13 Jul 2008, 4:24pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Thanks Smile
Could you say a bit more about why you fold KKxx? Why not play for set here as well as for AAxx?
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Fnord
Post Posted: Sun, 13 Jul 2008, 5:28pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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KKxx and QQxx with cards that don't help your big pair are kind of like small pairs in hold'em. They're good to take a cheap flop against opponents that give too much action.

Just remember you're looking for TOP SET.
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