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100nl, aa 4-bet pre, induce turn action?

  
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daven
Post Posted: Thu, 26 Jun 2008, 8:18pm    Post subject: 100nl, aa 4-bet pre, induce turn action? Reply with quote
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ok, first thing to address. I am only re-buying when I drop below 80bb - it seems good for image and to buy me extra action.

Villain is 22-15 - only 100 hands and not out of line with it though and I figure his 3-bet range to be AKs/JJ+. I'm looking about 16-13 on this table. 4-bet push is folding out most of his range, so I'm sizing the pre-flop action to get myself easily all-in on the flop and to hopefully keep him in the pot.

I took some time with the flop bet, decided to bet weak and scared to induce a push from KK/QQ (obviously JJ is likely to push as well).

Thoughts both streets?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (7 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Hero ($85.95)
MP2 ($219.90)
CO ($235.10)
Button ($187.60)
SB ($101.90)
BB ($117)
UTG ($103.80)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A, A.
1 fold, Hero raises to $3.5, 1 fold, CO raises to $10, 3 folds, Hero raises to $41.5, CO calls $28.

Flop: ($81) J, 4, 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $26,
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kmind
Post Posted: Thu, 26 Jun 2008, 9:10pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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4bet way less but now just push, you have like a halfpot stack
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Post Posted: Thu, 26 Jun 2008, 10:35pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I prefer not to piss-fart around with big pairs here, especially in a 4-bet pot, you both obviously have something and are both committed so why not just bang your chips in? It also looks more convincing if you just shove the flop giving the impression you were shoving regardless of what the flop brought.
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daven
Post Posted: Thu, 26 Jun 2008, 11:01pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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jimmyc wrote:
It also looks more convincing if you just shove the flop

I'm doing my best to look unconvincing to induce a push...
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Post Posted: Fri, 27 Jun 2008, 3:15am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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kmind wrote:
4bet way less but now just push, you have like a halfpot stack
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Post Posted: Fri, 27 Jun 2008, 4:16am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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3b to like 28-35, then you'll have about pot - 3/4th pot push on the flop
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