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mxiu
Post Posted: Sat, 14 Jun 2008, 1:04am    Post subject: Standard? Reply with quote
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PokerStars Game #18124776150: Tournament #92003930, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2008/06/14 - 04:00:20 (ET)
Table '92003930 1' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 2: TAURUSsia (3870 in chips)
Seat 3: davei86 (2440 in chips)
Seat 4: walkon84 (1170 in chips)
Seat 5: Hero (2150 in chips)
Seat 6: machine2678 (3870 in chips)
walkon84: posts small blind 75
Majin Legacy: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [5s 5d]
machine2678: calls 150
TAURUSsia: folds
davei86: calls 150
walkon84: calls 75
Hero: raises 2000 to 2150 and is all-in

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Rage2100
Post Posted: Sat, 14 Jun 2008, 3:52am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I don't like this push. I would just check here and hope to flop a set.
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mxiu
Post Posted: Sat, 14 Jun 2008, 6:22am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Too low of a pair? What would you need here to justify a push? 88+?
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Rage2100
Post Posted: Sat, 14 Jun 2008, 6:59am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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It would depend on how the table had been playing, but at a $5.50 with 3 other players in the pot, I may only push here with 99/TT+ and maybe AQ+, something like that. I wouldn't push with 88 here either, but maybe I am being too tight. 88 may be a good push if the table had been tight, but seeing as there are already 3 others in the pot, it doesn't seem to be.
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Post Posted: Sat, 14 Jun 2008, 7:55am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I would definitely shove 88 in this spot and possibly 77 as well. The only time I wouldn't shove is if I had a good read that UTG limped monsters UTG (ie. I had seen it previously and also that he raised weaker hands rather than limping).

Whilst you should have good fold equity by shoving here, the fact that three players limped dramatically increases the chance that somebody will call - either the big stacked UTG or the short stacked SB.
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Rage2100
Post Posted: Sat, 14 Jun 2008, 9:07am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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taipan168 wrote:
I would definitely shove 88 in this spot and possibly 77 as well.

I just put this hand into SNGWIZ. If you put it in as it is, you get the following: "Error: This game cannot be analyzed because it is likely that more than 2 opponents will be all-in."
If you just have 2 of the 3 callers though and mess around with their ranges, the pushing point seems to be around 77 or 88, as you said. I was slightly off in my estimations.

Would the extra caller make much difference to what hands you would push here?
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Post Posted: Sat, 14 Jun 2008, 10:59am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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im shoving 77+AJ+
i would shove 55 if i had like..... less than 8bb
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