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Ragnar4
Post Posted: Wed, 11 Jun 2008, 3:37am    Post subject: uhh. I run guud? Reply with quote
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Hero ($31.60)
SB ($10.70)
BB ($5.15)
UTG ($10)
MP ($10.15)
CO ($10.10)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 5, 6.
2 folds, CO raises to $0.4, Hero calls $0.40, SB raises to $1.2, 1 fold, CO folds, Hero calls $0.80.

Flop: ($2.90) K, 8, 5 (2 players)
SB bets $0.7, Hero raises to $3, SB raises to $5.3, Hero raises to $30.4, SB calls $4.20 (All-In).

Turn: ($21.90) 6 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($21.90) J (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $21.90
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Ragnar4
Post Posted: Wed, 11 Jun 2008, 4:28am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Lets play, what did Villain have?

Let's also play, how many minutes did he berate me for being a terribad player?
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BigPapi
Post Posted: Wed, 11 Jun 2008, 4:49am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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i fold preflop
postflop is high variance play and not really necessary at 10NL (remember you're pretty much always behind when the money goes in), but yeah you cant fold to his min. 4bet.

opp. has ak probably
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Genitruc
Post Posted: Wed, 11 Jun 2008, 5:02am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I don't think there's much to think about in this hand
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DJJunkPauds
Post Posted: Wed, 11 Jun 2008, 7:21am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Vill has AK/AA. Guess he might have been squeezing with the 79 of diamonds, but you're making it sound like you won.

I like your preflop call, and the rest of the hand.
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holdin2
Post Posted: Wed, 11 Jun 2008, 7:40am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I can't imagine cold calling two raises and having 1/10th of your stack in preflop with sc is going to be good over time unless your picking some really good spots/opponents that you can bluff.
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Galapogos
Post Posted: Wed, 11 Jun 2008, 9:12am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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He obviously had AA because he did that superdonk play of following his AA 3-bet with a small flop bet to be all tricksy. I fold preflop because his range at 10NL has you crushed. On the flop I play it passive because he's going to stack off no matter what the board looks like. But that's my preference in this particular situation. However, nothing wrong with stacking off on the flop either. You're basically flipping against a pair and there's a slight chance he could fold if he has QQ or was bluffing. Plus sucking out on these guys is fun because they don't understand equity and get pretty heated when their AA is cracked once again.
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DJJunkPauds
Post Posted: Wed, 11 Jun 2008, 10:50am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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holdin2 wrote:
I can't imagine cold calling two raises and having 1/10th of your stack in preflop with sc is going to be good over time unless your picking some really good spots/opponents that you can bluff.


We're getting 25 to 1 on the button with our suited connectors for the first raise, and 15 to 1 from the second raise against a range that is stacking off a huge amount of the time. Many people claim 15 to 1 is exactly what we want with our suited connectors. I personally play it safe and go for 25 to 1, but against such a stack-off-likely range, and in position, I'm happy to call with 15 to 1.
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Fnord
Post Posted: Wed, 11 Jun 2008, 10:59am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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This hand is fine.

Pre-flop you need to think you can take it away post-flop without hitting a fair % of the time to make the call. The second call is GAMB00L.
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mcatdog
Post Posted: Wed, 11 Jun 2008, 11:31am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Getting it in on the flop isn't BAD but I think I'd rather take a passive line and take him to town when I hit, since you put him on a range that's never folding. Your draw is so strong that you can easily afford to call the turn, even if he bets pot. If you think he's bet-folding QQ some % of the time then you need to play it the way you did.
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Ragnar4
Post Posted: Wed, 11 Jun 2008, 1:27pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I thought it was ok to call around 10% of both stacks as long as you think you can stack the guy if you hit with Suited connectors. Since the original raiser folded, and I closed the action I Figgured that calling and folding were about equal here.

so.... GAMBOOOOOL!

also I was running like a Kenyan in new york and destroying the tables with draws. To paraphrase and quote the famous Doyle Brunson, "How can I know if I'm on a heater, if I don't play what they give me?"
Who, advocates playing every hand after any hand you win.
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bjsaust
Post Posted: Wed, 11 Jun 2008, 4:55pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Do the maths, SC's hit about 5% of the time, and you're playing for 10x your call...
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DJJunkPauds
Post Posted: Wed, 11 Jun 2008, 5:00pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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It depends what you mean by hit, and he's playing for 15x.
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nutsinho
Post Posted: Wed, 11 Jun 2008, 5:44pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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preflop is 0ev at best, calling flop is more + ev than getting all in
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thizzSantaCruz
Post Posted: Thu, 12 Jun 2008, 1:01am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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what everyone else said. fold pf, postflop is fine, calling is better unless hes 3 betting sorta wide and cbetting.
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