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Posted: Wed, 11 Jun 2008, 4:14am Post subject: Too Aggro?
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Full House
Joined: 16 Sep 2005
Posts: 769
WPP: 151
Location: Moscow, Idaho
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
MP ($7.10)
CO ($3.60)
Button ($1.30)
SB ($7.90)
Hero ($18.35)
UTG ($9.45)
Preflop: Hero is BB with J , J .
1 fold, MP raises to $0.4, 1 fold, Button calls $0.40, SB calls $0.35, Hero calls $0.30.
Flop: ($1.60) 9, 8, T (4 players)
SB bets $0.9, Hero raises to $17.95, MP folds, Button folds, SB calls $6.60 (All-In).
Turn: ($16.60) 7 (2 players, 1 all-in)
River: ($16.60) K (2 players, 1 all-in)
Final Pot: $16.60 |
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Posted: Wed, 11 Jun 2008, 5:13am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 20 Dec 2005
Posts: 3407
WPP: 85
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| looks more like a value-shove than something "too aggro" |
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Posted: Wed, 11 Jun 2008, 5:42am Post subject:
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Royal Flush
Joined: 12 Dec 2003
Posts: 17644
WPP: 82
Location: Walk the Walk, Flop the Flop.
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| Certainly raise, shoving might be a bit much. |
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Posted: Wed, 11 Jun 2008, 5:53am Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 16 Sep 2005
Posts: 769
WPP: 151
Location: Moscow, Idaho
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| yeah. I honestly wish I had raised. Villain showed up with AKh, I may have been able to lay it down... doubt it.. buy maybe. |
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Posted: Wed, 11 Jun 2008, 6:04am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 06 Feb 2007
Posts: 2442
WPP: 66
Location: Spewing
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| Ragnar4 wrote: | | yeah. I honestly wish I had raised. Villain showed up with AKh, I may have been able to lay it down... doubt it.. buy maybe. |
results orientated much? |
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Posted: Wed, 11 Jun 2008, 6:21am Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 16 Sep 2005
Posts: 769
WPP: 151
Location: Moscow, Idaho
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wait! I shoved, getting it all in as a huge underdog, isn't that what this game is all about avoiding?... Letting my opponent go hog wild may have set off alarms. I may have made the laydown of the century instead of stacking off with a 2 out draw.
-edited because we all know I wouldn't have.
--edited again... Also, technically, didn't I turn a valueable showdown into a bluff? Which is also a Poker no no? |
Last edited by Ragnar4 on Wed, 11 Jun 2008, 6:24am; edited 1 time in total
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Posted: Wed, 11 Jun 2008, 6:23am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 06 Feb 2007
Posts: 2442
WPP: 66
Location: Spewing
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| if you're raising it's not so you can fold...... |
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Posted: Wed, 11 Jun 2008, 6:23am Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 16 Sep 2005
Posts: 769
WPP: 151
Location: Moscow, Idaho
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| badgers wrote: | | Ragnar4 wrote: | | yeah. I honestly wish I had raised. Villain showed up with AKh, I may have been able to lay it down... doubt it.. buy maybe. |
results oriented much? |
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Posted: Wed, 11 Jun 2008, 6:25am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 06 Feb 2007
Posts: 2442
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Location: Spewing
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ooooops
I stand by my point even if my spelling is an epic fail. |
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Posted: Wed, 11 Jun 2008, 6:26am Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 16 Sep 2005
Posts: 769
WPP: 151
Location: Moscow, Idaho
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| your point is right. I just wanted to make sure that no-one was going to call me an idiot. Fnord just said... meh.. maybe I wouldn't have gone as nuts. So it's a moral victory. |
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Posted: Wed, 11 Jun 2008, 11:06am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 11 Jun 2005
Posts: 1905
WPP: 102
Location: The Loser's Lounge
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| Ragnar4 wrote: | | your point is right. I just wanted to make sure that no-one was going to call me an idiot. Fnord just said... meh.. maybe I wouldn't have gone as nuts. So it's a moral victory. |
By raising as big as you did, you're ensuring you're only getting called by a flush. But you definitely want to get it in on this flop unless he's a crazy nit, in which case you don't want to raise the flop in the first place.
But you have such good equity against his range here who cares if he showed up with the nuts this time? If you lose to an overset on the flop one time does that mean you should stop stacking off with bottom set? Hells no. |
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Posted: Wed, 11 Jun 2008, 11:35am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 27 Sep 2004
Posts: 3089
WPP: 159
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| I think the raise size is bad but raising is real, real good. You're not folding it - there's almost nothing he can have except a made flush (to the Q, K, or A) that you don't have good equity against. |
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Posted: Wed, 11 Jun 2008, 5:54pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 01 Feb 2007
Posts: 1624
WPP: 47
Location: Gainesville
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| I don't like seeing a flop with jacks with 3 others. 3betting preflop I think makes this hand easier to play. |
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Posted: Wed, 11 Jun 2008, 6:07pm Post subject:
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Royal Flush
Joined: 12 Dec 2003
Posts: 17644
WPP: 82
Location: Walk the Walk, Flop the Flop.
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| Deanglow wrote: | | I don't like seeing a flop with jacks with 3 others. |
Don't play much live, eh? |
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