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One card flush versus a maniac

  
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Irisheyes
Post Posted: Thu, 15 May 2008, 3:34am    Post subject: One card flush versus a maniac Reply with quote
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Villain is a manical 46/23/2 over a significant sample. He's stationy on the early streets, calls cbets with Ace high etc. While his stats are kinda crazy he's not a total maniac, i.e. he's trying to play well and not just gambool any two cards.

We played his hand a little while ago:
$2.5/$5 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
Hero ($477.50)
UTG+1 ($294.50)
CO ($451.00)
BTN ($541.00)
SB ($1371.75)
BB ($502.00)

Pre-flop: ($7.5, 6 players) Hero is UTG Ace of Hearts King of Hearts
Hero raises to $17.5, 2 folds, BTN calls $17.5, SB calls $15, 1 fold

Flop: Five of Diamonds Jack of Hearts Eight of Hearts ($57.5, 3 players)
SB bets $45, Hero raises to $150, 1 fold, SB calls $105

Turn: Eight of Clubs ($357.5, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: Nine of Spades ($357.5, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Final Pot: $357.5
SB shows: King of Clubs Jack of Diamonds
Hero shows: Ace of Hearts King of Hearts

SB wins $354.5 ( won +$187 )
BTN lost -$17.50
Hero lost -$167.50

I've reraised his minraises once or twice so far and he's folded all times. Here is the hand in question. Do you like the flop bet firstly, and whats your turn action?

Also I'd appreciate comments on the first hand as well please. I raised the flop because the guy behind me was a nit who misses the flop a lot with his low pair and I figured the villains leading range was pretty wide. On the turn I just didn't think he'd fold anything that lead/calls the flop.

$2.5/$5 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($506.00)
CO ($2994.30)
BTN ($576.65)
Hero ($949.60)
BB ($441.50)

Pre-flop: ($7.5, 5 players) Hero is SB Ten of Spades Ten of Hearts
1 fold, CO raises to $10, 1 fold, Hero raises to $40, 1 fold, CO calls $30

Flop: Ace of Hearts Five of Hearts Eight of Hearts ($87.5, 2 players)
Hero bets $56, CO calls $56

Turn: Seven of Hearts ($199.5, 2 players)
Hero ($853.6)?
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minSim
Post Posted: Thu, 15 May 2008, 6:49am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Hand 1: I call flop. The nit having a PP will fold a lot to the flop bet anyways. If he has a big hand he isn't folding to it, but neither to your raise.
If he has a big hand you two are getting it in anyways.
I don't think SB has a wide lead/folding range 3way, so not much FE on your flop raise, imo.
Therefor, I prefer just calling; it's cheap, you're very likely getting paid when you hit and a raise doesn't accomplish much more imo.

(as played I definately don't bet turn, and never river after this turn action)

Hand 2: I c/c turn, because most worse hands fold to a bet, but might bet when checked to. If turn checks bet river for value.
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tarath
Post Posted: Fri, 16 May 2008, 11:33am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Hand 1 looks fine
Hand 2 I like a flop but as you will fold out a lot of hands with medium equity against you. I check call turn and c/f river if he bets turn and river.
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Fnord
Post Posted: Fri, 16 May 2008, 11:40am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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check/call

You got yourself into the suck, but I don't see any way to avoid it. He doesn't seem retarded enough to make calling the better play pre-flop, so I think you just need to call down some uncomfortable bets if you want to play with him.
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Irisheyes
Post Posted: Fri, 16 May 2008, 12:07pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Fnord wrote:
check/call

You got yourself into the suck, but I don't see any way to avoid it. He doesn't seem retarded enough to make calling the better play pre-flop,


Could you expand on this a bit please? I would have though you meant he seems too retarded to make calling better....

I guess the biggest problem is I find it really hard to decide the river action if I c/c the turn. It feels like I'm setting myself up nicely to make a huge mistake.
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