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Posted: Wed, 14 May 2008, 4:29pm Post subject: AK early on. |
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Flush
Joined: 04 Jan 2007
Posts: 364
WPP: 189
Location: UK
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This was the 4th hand of a 10-man $5.50 SnG. I seem to find myself in this situation quite often lately. What is the best way to play this hand on all streets when someone just keeps calling? If the diamond doesn't come on the river I call every time.
Big Blind is t20 (10 handed)
UTG (t1380)
UTG+1 (t1500)
MP1 (t2330)
MP2 (t1535)
MP3 (t1500)
MP4 (t1450)
Hero (t1470)
Button (t1525)
SB (t930)
BB (t1380)
Preflop: Hero is CO with A  , K  .
UTG calls t20, UTG+1 calls t20, 4 folds, Hero raises to t100, 4 folds, UTG+1 calls t80
Flop: (t250) Q  , 3 , A (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets t220, UTG+1 calls t220
Turn: (t690) A  (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets t600, UTG+1 calls t600
River: (t1890) 4 (2 players)
UTG+1 bets t580 (All-In), Hero ?? |
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Posted: Wed, 14 May 2008, 5:01pm Post subject: |
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Straight Flush
Joined: 07 Jul 2005
Posts: 7775
WPP: 136
Location: Sydney
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| I like how you played this hand up to the turn and now it is an easy call on the river getting 4.4 to 1 odds. You only need to have the best hand about 1 time in 5 to make this call +EV. |
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Posted: Wed, 14 May 2008, 5:31pm Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 03 May 2007
Posts: 3294
WPP: 149
Location: Ballarat, Australia
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| Cant fold here. If villian has a flush he played bad. |
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Posted: Thu, 15 May 2008, 10:13am Post subject: |
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Flush
Joined: 04 Jan 2007
Posts: 364
WPP: 189
Location: UK
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| I was just checking on this one really. Thanks for the replies. |
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Posted: Thu, 15 May 2008, 7:13pm Post subject: |
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Flush
Joined: 11 Mar 2007
Posts: 372
WPP: 85
Location: NY
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| The river is easy call. I may have pushed AI on the turn. Either way if opp caught the flush they played it bad. |
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Posted: Fri, 16 May 2008, 1:03am Post subject: |
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Royal Flush
Joined: 12 Dec 2003
Posts: 16962
WPP: 83
Location: Raise Pre-flop, Check/Raise Flop
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At least 120 pre-flop please.
Given the stakes you should be abusing the shit out of people who commit to seeing flops. |
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Posted: Fri, 16 May 2008, 10:45am Post subject: |
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Flush
Joined: 04 Jan 2007
Posts: 364
WPP: 189
Location: UK
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| Fnord wrote: | | At least 120 pre-flop please. |
I have been experimenting between raising 3x BB +1 BB for every limper, and 4x BB +1 BB for every limper in situations like these. I think I agree with you at these stakes, the 4x BB + 1 BB seems to work better. I think I'll stick to this at the $5.50 buy-ins. |
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Posted: Fri, 16 May 2008, 11:03am Post subject: |
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Straight Flush
Joined: 18 Aug 2004
Posts: 6361
WPP: 65
Location: Somewhere in middle america
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don't just think in terms of BBs, think about stack sizes as well. Assuming they suck enough to limp/call with weaker As/Ks, you want the pot to be as big as possible pre flop. Later as stacks get shallower and you need to steal it makes more sense to just go with 2.5-3x although even then I'll often toss in a 4x if I want to be able to PSB shove the flop or something.
Also, recognize you can raise a UTG limper more than a MP limper because he'll usually have a better hand. If he doesn't know the difference, he also won't care about 100 vs 120. |
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Posted: Fri, 16 May 2008, 11:48am Post subject: |
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Flush
Joined: 04 Jan 2007
Posts: 364
WPP: 189
Location: UK
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| drmcboy wrote: | | don't just think in terms of BBs, think about stack sizes as well. Assuming they suck enough to limp/call with weaker As/Ks, you want the pot to be as big as possible pre flop. Later as stacks get shallower and you need to steal it makes more sense to just go with 2.5-3x although even then I'll often toss in a 4x if I want to be able to PSB shove the flop or something. |
Yes, I was only experimenting between 3x BB and 4x BB + 1BB at the first two levels. When the BB gets to 50, I will usually raise 3x BB, and when the BB gets to 150 and over, if the stack sizes allow it, I usually start switching again from between 2.5x BB and 3x BB. As you say though, it is good to toss in a bigger raise every now and again, keep them guessing.
Also, if it's been folded around a few times to me in the SB and I've been stealing from a tight BB who seems half-decent, I'll sometimes just complete and then bet the flop whatever comes. It seems to work for me better, rather than just continuously raising him pre-flop and annoying him. |
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Posted: Fri, 16 May 2008, 12:26pm Post subject: |
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Royal Flush
Joined: 12 Dec 2003
Posts: 16962
WPP: 83
Location: Raise Pre-flop, Check/Raise Flop
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| Rage2100 wrote: | | I have been experimenting between raising 3x BB +1 BB for every limper, and 4x BB +1 BB for every limper in situations like these. |
You so silly.
Raise whatever you think makes you the most money. |
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