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Posted: Wed, 14 May 2008, 3:33pm Post subject: 99 to early to shove?
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Flush
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Posts: 398
WPP: 94
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$20 180
PokerStars Game #17429090220: Tournament #88337903, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2008/05/14 - 16:20:45 (ET)
Table '88337903 15' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: mattywein (5845 in chips)
Seat 2: ronaldino 72 (1610 in chips)
Seat 3: rent boy (4760 in chips)
Seat 4: jpd927 (2950 in chips)
Seat 5: marty2180 (5760 in chips)
Seat 6: rapitor (2265 in chips)
Seat 7: ICuRaRook (4045 in chips)
Seat 8: jerdood (3073 in chips)
Seat 9: HC2006 (6880 in chips)
ronaldino 72: posts small blind 100
rent boy: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to jerdood [9h 9c]
jpd927: folds
marty2180: raises 400 to 600
rapitor: raises 1665 to 2265 and is all-in
ICuRaRook: folds
jerdood: ???
the first raiser has been pretty loose... raising short stack blinds every time... i been waiting for a Ace high or KJ-ish to shove him but didn't pick it up. now rapitor is shoving him. i'm not worried about marty so much. do i need to just get it in and hopefully win a flip or wait for a better spot?
standard shove or wait? i'm not desperate... still have 15BB's but a double up now would be sweet. good spot or not? |
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Posted: Wed, 14 May 2008, 5:13pm Post subject:
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Straight
Joined: 15 May 2005
Posts: 151
WPP: 118
Location: Titusville, Fl
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I don't see anything wrong with pushing if you have a good read on the guy who initially raised.
I think it also depends on the table you're at. If everyone has been tight and you can steal some blinds, maybe it's better to sit back and build a stack so you don't have to risk your tournament life. |
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Posted: Wed, 14 May 2008, 6:24pm Post subject:
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Straight
Joined: 04 Jul 2007
Posts: 184
WPP: 118
Location: California
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| Is this the first time he's been played back at? I dont like it. It's a flip at best and you, like, always lose those. |
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Posted: Thu, 15 May 2008, 12:00pm Post subject:
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One Pair
Joined: 02 May 2007
Posts: 24
WPP: 113
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| With a a UTG+1 raise, and a re-raise in front, I dump my 99 in a heartbeat. You still have plenty of time to pick a better spot. |
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Posted: Thu, 15 May 2008, 12:14pm Post subject:
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Straight Flush
Joined: 18 Aug 2004
Posts: 6696
WPP: 66
Location: Somewhere in middle america
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| super close, nice overlay for a flip (plus he can easily shove worse pairs assuming he has the same read you do) but maniacs get hands too. I think I'll agree with the table angle - if you feel like you'll have plenty of chances to steal and/or are the best player, I'd give it up, but nothing wrong with gambling here either. |
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Posted: Thu, 15 May 2008, 4:00pm Post subject:
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Flush
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Posts: 398
WPP: 94
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yeah i really thought about if for about 15 seconds. i felt the shover had the same read as me. i assume the vast majority of decent players are running PT HUD... and the raiser stats were something like 30/20 over about 30 hands. so i kinda felt like the shover wasn't so strong... maybe like AT.... or maybe smaller PP.
i'm learning there are advantages to pulling the trigger and gambooling with this stack size. fine line between a good gamble and spew.
with 6k... i probably snap call. |
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