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Posted: Wed, 14 May 2008, 2:31am Post subject: Stars $22 FO. FT bubble approaches - Blind steal turned TPWK |
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Straight
Joined: 10 May 2007
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WPP: 82
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Stars $22 FO 14/1328 remaining.
Chip average is about 250k.
Villain is 15/12/7 after about 150 hands and about 25/10 from the BB. I was chip leader until recently when 2 x dominating hands lost to shortstack pushes  My stats for tourney are 22/17/2. I have raised villain's big blind 2 or 3 times during the last 7 or so orbits but have not been relentless....
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t10000 (7 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
BB (t197600)
UTG (t143528)
MP1 (t87428)
Hero (t234514)
CO (t303788)
Button (t298308)
SB (t168118)
Preflop: Hero is MP2 with T , Q .
2 folds, Hero raises to t25000, 3 folds, BB calls t15000.
Flop: (t62000) 2 , 3, Q (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t45000, BB raises to t171600
Hero?? |
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Posted: Wed, 14 May 2008, 6:03am Post subject: |
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Straight Flush
Joined: 18 Aug 2004
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I really want to fold, but he may think you are tilting and with this board any PP looks pretty good.
I think if we are folding to a c/r here we should check the flop.
(EDIT one use of really per post is really enough) |
Last edited by drmcboy on Wed, 14 May 2008, 8:35am; edited 1 time in total
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Posted: Wed, 14 May 2008, 8:27am Post subject: |
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Flush
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Location: Being the King of Shaving your privates
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Posted: Wed, 14 May 2008, 8:44am Post subject: |
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Straight
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| drmcboy wrote: | | (EDIT one use of really per post is really enough) |
really? |
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Posted: Wed, 14 May 2008, 8:49am Post subject: |
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Straight
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So what's the full story with the check behind? Call a 1/2 - 3/4 pot bet on turn, and fold to a big river bet if I don't improve and I'm still sitting on about 170k?
...and as played - How much merit is there in calling here or should it be an easy fold? |
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Posted: Wed, 14 May 2008, 9:22am Post subject: |
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Straight Flush
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I should have been clear, I think you just have to go with it as played. This is really a great flop to pick you off, he doesn't even need a PP since you pretty much have to fold anything < Qx or maybe JJ.
If the board came unders I don't think I would fold, I might give up if an ace did not slow him down. This is a spot where I think your money goes in sooo much better if he's leading the action. Even if he bets a brick turn and you call he'll never think you have TP, it will look like AK or a weak pair. |
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Posted: Wed, 14 May 2008, 12:47pm Post subject: |
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i rarely, if ever, get pms
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I don't like checking TP as much with a Q or a J hi board as I do with a K or A hi board. But because of stack sizes here, you also aren't doing this for pot control because any second bet will be all-in. So really your choice no matter how you play it is whether you are felting this.
As for hands that beat you, AA, and KK would definitely play this way. I think AQ is pushing pre. Along with any other PP pre there with those stacks - but playing 44-77 this way is sorta sexy. I would push QK there too pre. Which leaves JQ as really the only hand I'm worried about.
So then the question is whether or not he is good. This is a classic line with those stacks with ATC. Whether he is good enough to use that line is a decision you need to make. |
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Posted: Wed, 14 May 2008, 1:23pm Post subject: |
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Flush
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i agree with char i think.
if he is good call. if he is bad... he has you. |
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Posted: Sat, 17 May 2008, 7:39pm Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
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Location: donkaments weeeeeeeeeeee
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| b/f is the worst option here |
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Posted: Sun, 18 May 2008, 1:45am Post subject: |
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Flush
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| johnny_fish wrote: | | b/f is the worst option here |
so then he has to call. what are better options? check behind with top pair?
what was the end result? i'm curious. |
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Posted: Sun, 18 May 2008, 1:50am Post subject: |
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Flush
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| Quote: | | Villain is 15/12/7 after about 150 hands and about 25/10 from the BB. I was chip leader until recently when 2 x dominating hands lost to shortstack pushes My stats for tourney are 22/17/2. |
i think you're smoked... but folding would really suck. i'd probably throw up and then call. just not sure why he didn't shove pre with any hand he would shove with now. unless he has a monster.
i dunno... i play $4 tourneys. |
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Posted: Wed, 04 Jun 2008, 2:15am Post subject: |
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3-of-a-Kind
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| is he showing u trips here often? |
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Posted: Thu, 05 Jun 2008, 9:50am Post subject: |
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Straight
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I don't like your bet size on the flop, it looks standard and is inviting the C/R from an aggy Villain, I probably make it about half-pot here, make it look value-ish. So...he C/R, you should push/call/ looks like he's already all-in save a few k so...w/e. His range is too wide for you to fold here, too many middle pairs in there that you are beating, not to mention he's aggy, could just be a move.
I call and laugh at Villain's 66 until the turn and river go 4,5, for a runner, runner straight.  |
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