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Posted: Thu, 08 May 2008, 3:07pm Post subject: $22, cbet with TT on KJx board? |
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 27 Mar 2005
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WPP: 114
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This was a few days ago so I don't have much of an idea about SB. Is a cbet profitable here? If it is, do you fire again on blank turns?
Poker Stars $20+$2 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 8 players
MP1: t815
MP2: t1525
CO: t2665
BTN: t2440
SB: t1310
BB: t2095
UTG: t1305
Hero (UTG+1): t1345
Pre Flop: Hero is UTG+1 with T T
1 fold, Hero raises to t120, 4 folds, SB calls t105, 1 fold
Flop: (t270) J 3 K (2 players)
SB checks, Hero ??? |
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Posted: Thu, 08 May 2008, 4:31pm Post subject: |
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Straight Flush
Joined: 07 Jul 2005
Posts: 7631
WPP: 137
Location: Sydney
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| I would almost always check behind here and see what happens on the turn. If he checks again I might throw out a 180 bet. |
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Posted: Fri, 09 May 2008, 12:35am Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 29 Aug 2004
Posts: 3904
WPP: 65
Location: Stars $16 and $27 Sngs
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| I think I check behind here,the flop hits a lot of his range very well |
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Posted: Fri, 09 May 2008, 8:21am Post subject: |
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Straight
Joined: 17 Jan 2008
Posts: 209
WPP: 68
Location: NYC
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| I think I bet out if I don't have a read that he likes to c/r. |
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Posted: Fri, 09 May 2008, 3:11pm Post subject: |
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Straight Flush
Joined: 07 Jul 2005
Posts: 7631
WPP: 137
Location: Sydney
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| yourfather wrote: | | I think I bet out if I don't have a read that he likes to c/r. |
There are three reasons to bet:
- As a bluff
- For value
- To protect your hand against draws.
I'm not sure which of these reasons betting here would accomplish? Maybe opp might fold a better hand like Jx or K-bad kicker I guess - but checking behind and betting the turn would accomplish the same thing and also give you a bit more certainty that opp didn't catch a piece of this board. |
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Posted: Fri, 09 May 2008, 5:59pm Post subject: |
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Flush
Joined: 12 Mar 2007
Posts: 578
WPP: 80
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| check behind.. if the turn is a non-scare card and the opponent checks you can take a stab at it more comfortably. |
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Posted: Sun, 11 May 2008, 7:06pm Post subject: |
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Flush
Joined: 22 Dec 2006
Posts: 328
WPP: 137
Location: Norfolk, UK.
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| I want to see a cheap showdown here. As such check behind, evaluate the turn card. |
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Posted: Mon, 12 May 2008, 6:49am Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 04 Aug 2004
Posts: 2309
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Location: HotLanta
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| I think you can safely check behind here and evaluate on the turn. |
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Posted: Mon, 12 May 2008, 12:05pm Post subject: |
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Straight
Joined: 17 Jan 2008
Posts: 209
WPP: 68
Location: NYC
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| taipan168 wrote: | | yourfather wrote: | | I think I bet out if I don't have a read that he likes to c/r. |
There are three reasons to bet:
- As a bluff
- For value
- To protect your hand against draws.
I'm not sure which of these reasons betting here would accomplish? Maybe opp might fold a better hand like Jx or K-bad kicker I guess - but checking behind and betting the turn would accomplish the same thing and also give you a bit more certainty that opp didn't catch a piece of this board. |
Yeah guess your right but if you check here and opp bets any turn its usually a fold. I would bet as a standard cbet, to make opps who missed flop fold. I only see him c/r JJ or KJ unless he's bluffing. He could have small pair here or an ace that missed the flop an I'd be happy to win it here. I understand checking and playing for showdown value but this hand will rarely get checked back to you on turn.
If he bets turn that is Q or A are you folding but 3-betting any lower card? |
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