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Posted: Sun, 11 May 2008, 4:10pm Post subject: 200NL - AQo semi-deep
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Full House
Joined: 16 May 2006
Posts: 998
WPP: 79
Location: New Zealand
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Villain was playing 80/40/3 over 30 hands but struck me obviously as bad but not spewey. My game is a little bit off at the moment so is there any different line I could have taken?
I usually 4-bet this pre but against this opponent I chose to call.
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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
5 players
Converter
Stack sizes:
UTG: $237.20
CO: $592.65
Button: $341.00
SB: $332.20
Hero: $389.25
Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with A  Q 
UTG folds, CO raises to $5, 2 folds, Hero calls.
Flop: K  T J ($11, 2 players)
Hero bets $10, CO raises to $30, Hero raises to $85, CO calls.
Turn: 8 ($181, 2 players)
Hero bets $145, CO calls.
River: 6 ($471, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks.
Results:
Final pot: $471
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Posted: Sun, 11 May 2008, 4:35pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 13 Aug 2007
Posts: 1384
WPP: 117
Location: value towning myself
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hmmmm. well, i kind of have to get it in vs a player that loose. theres much more in his calling range on flop/turn that isnt only an FD, and i would expect him to still call with made hands, but i doubt he bets them.
is it an easy lay down if he does shove anyone? |
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Posted: Sun, 11 May 2008, 4:50pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 11 Jun 2005
Posts: 1905
WPP: 102
Location: The Loser's Lounge
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Bet the river 100%
Edit: And 3-bet this guy 100%. |
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Posted: Sun, 11 May 2008, 5:31pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 04 Mar 2006
Posts: 1619
WPP: 56
Location: Looking for my anima
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| I also think river is a valuebet, you'll probs see KJ/KT a lot here. |
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Posted: Sun, 11 May 2008, 5:55pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 30 Mar 2007
Posts: 915
WPP: 41
Location: Green Bay
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| Galapogos wrote: | Bet the river 100%
Edit: And 3-bet this guy 100%. |
this
also how does a 80/40/3 guy not come across as spewy? |
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Posted: Sun, 11 May 2008, 5:59pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 27 Sep 2004
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| 3-bet pre; raise flop more (he's calling anyway); push river. Though I don't hate a river check honestly. Given his stats he will probably bluff there a lot, so check/calling can't be bad (as long as you're not thinking of folding). |
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Posted: Sun, 11 May 2008, 6:06pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 30 Mar 2007
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Location: Green Bay
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| i think betting is way better. theres so many hands we can get value from that he could check behind with and theres not very many hands he is going to be bluffing with. |
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Posted: Sun, 11 May 2008, 6:09pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 27 Sep 2004
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I think he might bluff with all kinds of busted draws and 2nd best hands (KQ, QJ, QT, 89 come to mind). A good player checks many of those down; he doesn't seem like a good player.
But I'd still prefer to just bet it. He probably calls with KQ and maybe QJ anyway, though he also will probably throw away the other two. |
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Posted: Sun, 11 May 2008, 6:43pm Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 11 Jun 2005
Posts: 1905
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Location: The Loser's Lounge
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| EzDuzIt wrote: | | also how does a 80/40/3 guy not come across as spewy? |
I think he means the guy's just not a spaz post-flop. Just one of those guys that loves to see flops. |
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Posted: Sun, 11 May 2008, 7:08pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 16 May 2006
Posts: 998
WPP: 79
Location: New Zealand
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| Galapogos wrote: | | EzDuzIt wrote: | | also how does a 80/40/3 guy not come across as spewy? |
I think he means the guy's just not a spaz post-flop. Just one of those guys that loves to see flops. |
Exactly. He liked to play loads of pots but kept them generally very small. My range for him was actually very strong here and that was the reason for the river check. However, thinking back I immediately thought that he perhaps would never bluff here and would even check down a set on this board. |
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Posted: Sun, 11 May 2008, 7:18pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 29 Nov 2004
Posts: 1252
WPP: 83
Location: Sweden
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| this river clearly is a push since he will push better if checked to and your committed to the pot and force to call anyhow. |
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Posted: Sun, 11 May 2008, 7:49pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 16 Feb 2007
Posts: 979
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Location: bluffing scare cards
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| Cocco_Bill wrote: | | this river clearly is a push since he will push better if checked to and your committed to the pot and force to call anyhow. |
+1 |
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Posted: Sun, 11 May 2008, 9:03pm Post subject:
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midstakes donk
Joined: 08 Sep 2005
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Location: flattin ur 4bets, makin u tilt
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| this is the easiest river shove of all time that does not involve holding the pure nuts |
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Posted: Sun, 11 May 2008, 10:45pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 16 May 2006
Posts: 998
WPP: 79
Location: New Zealand
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Thanks for your help and I agree with 'almost' everything you guys said. I think cold calling with AQo oop against this guy from time to time makes sense.
But as soon as I checked the river I thought "wtf are you doing man - you would be calling a push anyway" and was not surprised to see a set of Jacks. |
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Posted: Sun, 11 May 2008, 11:45pm Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 30 Mar 2007
Posts: 915
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Location: Green Bay
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| he did shove the jacks right? |
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Posted: Mon, 12 May 2008, 12:02am Post subject:
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Full House
Joined: 16 May 2006
Posts: 998
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Location: New Zealand
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| EzDuzIt wrote: | | he did shove the jacks right? |
Nope he didn't. Lost about 60bb of value here. |
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Posted: Mon, 12 May 2008, 9:49am Post subject:
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4-of-a-Kind
Joined: 27 Sep 2004
Posts: 3089
WPP: 159
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| Suck. Can't believe he didn't try to get it in on the flop. |
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