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Posted: Fri, 18 Apr 2008, 9:11am Post subject: |
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Flush

Joined: 12 Dec 2007
Posts: 526 WPP: 110
Location: Ontario, Canada
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| jimmy44 wrote: |
Hand 5 : Why do you overbet on turn? |
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Posted: Fri, 18 Apr 2008, 10:30am Post subject: |
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Full House

Joined: 29 May 2006
Posts: 1165 WPP: 112
Location: surfing in a room
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| I´m commited anyway, no point in leaving some change behind |
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Posted: Fri, 18 Apr 2008, 10:57am Post subject: |
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Flush

Joined: 12 Dec 2007
Posts: 526 WPP: 110
Location: Ontario, Canada
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| XTR1000 wrote: | | I´m commited anyway, no point in leaving some change behind |
Oh it was all in? |
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Posted: Mon, 21 Apr 2008, 8:34am Post subject: |
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Full House

Joined: 29 May 2006
Posts: 1165 WPP: 112
Location: surfing in a room
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iirc that turn overbet was AI.
Todays morning session became an afternoon session since I had class this morning. I ran okay and made $$$. Nothing spectacular tho, but I must say I played really well. If I only could maintain this level of focus and thinking/analyzing for more than 2 hrs I could start livin soon
#1 U can find this hand in FR section as well. The more I think about it, the more obv b/f on river becomes. During the hand I felt like c/c or even c/f could be the better option. Villian runs 28/5/0.6 over a smallish 120 hands sample.
$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
10 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($209.85)
Hero ($238.65)
UTG+2 ($185.15)
MP1 ($201.40)
MP2 ($43.00)
MP3 ($127.55)
CO ($196.00)
BTN ($406.00)
SB ($196.00)
BB ($40.00)
Pre-flop: ($3, 10 players) Hero is UTG+1
1 fold, Hero raises to $8, UTG+2 calls $8, 7 folds
Flop: ($19, 2 players)
Hero bets $15, UTG+2 calls $15
Turn: ($49, 2 players)
Hero bets $37, UTG+2 calls $37
River: ($123, 2 players)
Hero bets $61, UTG+2 calls $61
[Results Hidden]
#2 This is meh, 4bet size sucks. Villian runs 14/13/6.5 and really likes to 3bet. I 3bet him quite often as well, so our ranges are expanded enough to take a flop, since we had been 4betting very tight I decided to 4bet bluff, figuring a good chance to get him off AQ/88-JJ. Didnt work, nh.
$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
7 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($198.00)
Hero ($200.50)
MP ($40.00)
CO ($273.00)
BTN ($137.75)
SB ($200.10)
BB ($40.00)
Pre-flop: ($3, 7 players) Hero is UTG+1
1 fold, Hero raises to $8, 1 fold, CO raises to $24, 3 folds, Hero raises to $57, CO calls $33
Flop: ($117, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $80, Hero folds
Final Pot: $194.00
CO wins $194 ( won +$57 )
Hero lost -$57.00
#3
$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
9 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($107.31)
UTG+1 ($235.20)
MP1 ($220.20)
MP2 ($34.00)
MP3 ($49.65)
Hero ($197.00)
BTN ($178.55)
SB ($187.85)
BB ($161.45)
Pre-flop: ($3, 9 players) Hero is CO
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $8, 3 folds, Hero calls $8, 1 fold, SB calls $7, 1 fold
Flop: ($26, 3 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 bets $20, Hero calls $20, SB folds
Turn: ($66, 2 players)
UTG+1 bets $42, Hero raises to $90, UTG+1 goes all-in $165.2, Hero goes all-in $79
River: ($442.2, 2 players)
Final Pot: $439.20
Hero shows:
UTG+1 shows:
UTG+1 wins $439.2 ( won +$204 )
Hero lost -$197.00
SB lost -$8.00
#4
$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
10 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($272.25)
UTG+1 ($39.00)
UTG+2 ($201.05)
Hero ($267.20)
MP2 ($198.00)
MP3 ($195.00)
CO ($60.00)
BTN ($54.05)
SB ($112.40)
BB ($118.00)
[CO posted $2]
Pre-flop: ($5, 10 players) Hero is MP1
3 folds, Hero raises to $8, 3 folds, BTN calls $8, SB calls $7, 1 fold
Flop: ($28, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $23, BTN goes all-in $46.05, SB folds, Hero calls $23.05
Turn: ($120.1, 2 players)
River: ($120.1, 2 players)
Final Pot: $117.10
Hero shows:
BTN shows:
BTN wins $117.1 ( won +$63.05 )
Hero lost -$54.05
SB lost -$8.00
#5 Preflop craziness. UTG+1 is 54/29, CO unknown, BTN 51/9.
$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
10 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
Hero ($330.55)
UTG+1 ($197.00)
UTG+2 ($412.35)
MP1 ($228.97)
MP2 ($34.00)
MP3 ($186.00)
CO ($37.00)
BTN ($173.25)
SB ($212.10)
BB ($34.00)
Pre-flop: ($3, 10 players) Hero is UTG
Hero raises to $8, 1 fold, UTG+2 calls $8, 3 folds, CO goes all-in $37, BTN calls $37, 2 folds, $29 to Hero ($322.55)?
#6
$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
10 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($36.45)
UTG+1 ($36.00)
UTG+2 ($202.95)
MP1 ($192.40)
MP2 ($231.40)
MP3 ($200.25)
CO ($236.50)
BTN ($190.00)
Hero ($248.20)
BB ($401.70)
Pre-flop: ($3, 10 players) Hero is SB
6 folds, CO raises to $6, 1 fold, Hero raises to $20, 1 fold, CO calls $14
Flop: ($42, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks
Turn: ($42, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks
River: ($42, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $26, Hero calls $26
[Results Hidden]
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Posted: Mon, 21 Apr 2008, 12:44pm Post subject: |
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3-of-a-Kind

Joined: 22 Feb 2008
Posts: 106 WPP: 61
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| #5 what a weird spot. All options seem pretty gross really. |
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Posted: Wed, 23 Apr 2008, 1:33pm Post subject: |
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Full House

Joined: 29 May 2006
Posts: 1165 WPP: 112
Location: surfing in a room
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| reprisal wrote: | | #5 what a weird spot. All options seem pretty gross really. |
Well yea, it´s a mess. All factors considered and after getting some feedback I´m okay with my laydown.
On poker: I swing so hard at 200NL. I made a 10k hands killing at 100NL this month, but cant get my feet on the ground at 200NL. It´s like....idk, it´s not that I fell getting ran over or outplayed conatantly, it´s a mix of running cold, misinterpreting my opposition/outleveling myself and experimenting on later streets. I bought a subscription at LeggoPoker and have tons of new ides running around my head, and implementing new ideas/strats/concepts is usually expensive. I spend this afternoon in the next larger city and our way there I talked a lot with my neighbour about poker. Always surprising, how I generate most insights while I´m physically talking. A few random thoughts:
- It´s so sick how bad actually full ring regulars play turn and river (me included). If you´re facing the standard 12/10 type of guy, what is his range for raising the turn after calling pre- and flop? Do they ever bluff raise a river?
- FU pot control. Seriously, stop it. How often do we check a turn for pot control, figuring we can put in one more bet, but not two and want to see a showdown? Stop checking. If we are ahead we want value, if we are behind we´re better off to know it NOW and not on river and let villian dictate the price. Pot control rivers, stop doing that shit on turn.
- Learn to 2 barrel/float/bluffraise/4bet bluff a decent amount of the time.
Hands:
#1 19/11/3. It was so obvious what he had on turn.
$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
10 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($179.65)
UTG+1 ($276.20)
UTG+2 ($295.60)
MP1 ($30.30)
MP2 ($248.84)
MP3 ($61.00)
Hero ($199.00)
BTN ($36.55)
SB ($34.75)
BB ($117.00)
Pre-flop: ($3, 10 players) Hero is CO
UTG raises to $6, 5 folds, Hero raises to $19, 3 folds, UTG calls $13
Flop: ($41, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $34, UTG calls $34
Turn: ($109, 2 players)
UTG bets $76, Hero goes all-in $146, UTG goes all-in $50.65
River: ($381.65, 2 players)
[Results Hidden]
#2 Terrible.
$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
8 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($248.52)
UTG+1 ($211.80)
Hero ($329.00)
MP2 ($198.30)
CO ($196.65)
BTN ($111.45)
SB ($227.00)
BB ($71.50)
Pre-flop: ($3, 8 players) Hero is MP1
2 folds, Hero raises to $8, MP2 calls $8, 3 folds, BB calls $6
Flop: ($25, 3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $15, MP2 calls $15, BB folds
Turn: ($55, 2 players)
Hero bets $37, MP2 calls $37
River: ($129, 2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets $70, Hero calls $70
[Results Hidden]
#3
$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
9 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($134.60)
UTG+1 ($44.00)
MP1 ($263.75)
Hero ($197.00)
MP3 ($91.40)
CO ($50.00)
BTN ($99.10)
SB ($38.00)
BB ($223.60)
Pre-flop: ($3, 9 players) Hero is MP2
3 folds, Hero raises to $6, 4 folds, BB raises to $20, Hero calls $14
Flop: ($41, 2 players)
BB bets $22, Hero calls $22
Turn: ($85, 2 players)
BB bets $58, Hero goes all-in $155, BB calls $97
River: ($395, 2 players)
[Results Hidden]
#4 Active villian
$0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
10 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($102.45)
UTG+1 ($94.50)
UTG+2 ($223.80)
MP1 ($21.50)
MP2 ($100.00)
MP3 ($102.90)
Hero ($98.50)
BTN ($17.05)
SB ($150.50)
BB ($27.95)
Pre-flop: ($1.5, 10 players) Hero is CO
2 folds, UTG+2 calls $1, 3 folds, Hero raises to $4, 3 folds, UTG+2 calls $3
Flop: ($9.5, 2 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero bets $7, UTG+2 calls $7
Turn: ($23.5, 2 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero checks
River: ($23.5, 2 players)
UTG+2 bets $12, Hero raises to $30, UTG+2 folds
Final Pot: $63.15
Hero wins $63.15 ( won +$22.15 )
UTG+2 lost -$23.00
#5 Another loose tricky dude
$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
10 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($60.00)
UTG+1 ($229.15)
UTG+2 ($209.75)
MP1 ($72.65)
MP2 ($199.00)
MP3 ($35.00)
CO ($356.85)
BTN ($80.55)
Hero ($196.05)
BB ($40.00)
Pre-flop: ($3, 10 players) Hero is SB
6 folds, CO raises to $6.5, 1 fold, Hero raises to $19, 1 fold, CO calls $12.5
Flop: ($40, 2 players)
Hero bets $34, CO calls $34
Turn: ($108, 2 players)
Hero bets $143.05, 1 fold
Final Pot: $248.05
Hero wins $248.05 ( won +$52 )
CO lost -$53.00
BR hovers around 10.5k |
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Posted: Tue, 29 Apr 2008, 9:47am Post subject: |
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Full House

Joined: 29 May 2006
Posts: 1165 WPP: 112
Location: surfing in a room
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Let this month end. After dropping another couple buy ins I´m now around break even at 1/2NL over 55k hands. It seems like there´s a hidden difference between 100NL and 200NL that makes me become a be or maybe even slight losing player after I beat 100NL. I gotta improve, study more and stop spewing, I several buy ins were just burning money.
Beside posting here more frequently and make a habit of reviewing my hands after each session I´m experiment the next weeks with playing less tables, no HUD and then lagging it up. I already played 2 sessions of 5 to 6 tables running around 22/19/4 and it was great. Table/seat selection becomes way more important and I won´t get in as many hands as I used to, but it seems when the tables are good this will be my way to go.
The adjustements I´ve made/am aiming to make are:
- Isolate more. This is the main adjustement to exploit the nits who limp/call 22-99 and play fit or fold on flop. Obv, cbet 100% and shut down on any turn where we can´t beat a set. Beside kicking 10/6-butts I get more value from the bad players, vs whom I´ll be valuebetting more. I recently read an article, that said "missing value at small stakes is criminal" and it´s true. I think I wrote it before, pot control is one of the most misunderstood concepts in NLHE. Since nits and fish require different game plans on later streets I can´t play this style with more than 6 tables.
- Steal more. Att.2 steal gets above 40%. Nowadays 25% - 35% is considered a solid att.2 steal in full ring, while 40% - 45% is considered good at 6max. Actually, in a blind steal situation, ie folded to CO/BTN, the isn´t or at least shouldn´t be any difference in stealing and defending ranges. Considering that the average full ring player 3bets less frequently than a 6maxer we should aim for a higher att.2 steal.
- No HUD. Well, what can I say? I don´t miss it. I read hands and figure out hand ranges in my head. I have enough time to look people up in PT. I pay more attention to postflop tendencies, which was a huge flaw in my game - Looking at HUD stats and pulling conclusions regarding postflop plays. While there usually are certain correlations between preflop numbers and postflop tendencies and the VPIP/PFR/TAF sign gives us a general idea of what type of villian we are facing, I don´t pay all that much attention to sizing/timing tells or search for patterns in their game
#1 I´d like to hear your opinions on my turn bet, I guess this could be too thin. Our villian here limp/calls wide and likes to call flops. He calls us with diamonds/J8-AJ/T8/Ad9x/55/99. I really hate checking back this turn
$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
9 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($200.00)
UTG+1 ($49.00)
MP1 ($43.00)
MP2 ($234.90)
MP3 ($23.00)
Hero ($301.30)
BTN ($58.35)
SB ($397.55)
BB ($44.70)
Pre-flop: ($3, 9 players) Hero is CO
UTG calls $2, 4 folds, Hero raises to $9, 3 folds, UTG calls $7
Flop: ($21, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $14, UTG calls $14
Turn: ($49, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $32, UTG calls $32
River: ($113, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks
[Results Hidden]
#2 Another loose-passive guy. This hand kinda sucks, I isolated him with almost any two before and he played flops very straight forward, folding a ton to my cbets. His range consists of almost any pp and given his looseness we can´t discount straights or straight draws
$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
9 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($202.05)
UTG+1 ($37.75)
Hero ($228.65)
MP2 ($212.30)
MP3 ($200.00)
CO ($203.40)
BTN ($44.60)
SB ($38.00)
BB ($280.00)
Pre-flop: ($3, 9 players) Hero is MP1
2 folds, Hero raises to $8, 5 folds, BB calls $6
Flop: ($17, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $12, BB calls $12
Turn: ($41, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $28, BB calls $28
River: ($97, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks
[Results Hidden]
#3 This guy is sooooo tight.
$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
8 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($88.25)
UTG+1 ($242.85)
MP1 ($193.00)
MP2 ($233.65)
Hero ($229.00)
BTN ($44.00)
SB ($36.00)
BB ($40.00)
Pre-flop: ($3, 8 players) Hero is CO
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $2, 2 folds, Hero raises to $8, 3 folds, UTG+1 calls $6
Flop: ($19, 2 players)
UTG+1 bets $9.5, Hero raises to $32, UTG+1 calls $22.5
Turn: ($83, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $189, UTG+1 calls $189
River: ($461, 2 players)
Final Pot: $458.00
UTG+1 shows:
Hero shows:
Hero wins $458 ( won +$229 )
UTG+1 lost -$229.00
#4
$1/$2 No Limit Holdem
10 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
UTG ($207.00)
UTG+1 ($53.00)
UTG+2 ($66.75)
MP1 ($153.70)
MP2 ($186.60)
MP3 ($39.00)
CO ($197.00)
BTN ($306.45)
SB ($152.25)
Hero ($267.00)
Pre-flop: ($3, 10 players) Hero is BB
2 folds, UTG+2 calls $2, 4 folds, BTN calls $2, SB calls $1, Hero raises to $10, UTG+2 goes all-in $64.75, BTN folds, SB folds, Hero calls $58.75
Flop: ($139.5, 2 players)
Turn: ($139.5, 2 players)
River: ($139.5, 2 players)
[Results Hidden] |
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Posted: Wed, 30 Apr 2008, 12:43am Post subject: |
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4-of-a-Kind

Joined: 10 Aug 2007
Posts: 1575 WPP: 70
Location: the ether
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hand 1: check turn. all the draws hit, plus an overcard - i think qt is also in villain's range. that sets you up to be able to call a river bet
hand 2: most likely A6,A2, or 77-TT. I like your play on every street.
hand 3: not sure about pushing the turn, what are you trying to rep - a draw? if villain is fishy then you're forcing a lot of hands to fold that would probably call pot and then never be able to fold their top-pair or whatever - then again, you can't fold river either and implied odds, dunno. funny to see a villain limp-call aces and get stacked though
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hand 4: any reads? i fold, but it's close. sometimes you're 50-50, sometimes behind and only rarely against AQ etc. |
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Posted: Wed, 30 Apr 2008, 3:46am Post subject: |
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Full House

Joined: 29 May 2006
Posts: 1165 WPP: 112
Location: surfing in a room
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I fucked things up this month. I´m taking a few days off poker, I´m leaving to spend a few days with my family and participate in a 1/2 marathon on sunday. Prolly no poker until then, I need to free my mind and think about switching sites.
April Summary
Hands played: 38,174
Poker Profit: $-198
Rakeback received: $303
Bonus cleared: $1,815
Cashouts: $300
Total earnings: $1,920
2008 totals
Hands played: 121,842
Poker profit: $2,442
Rakeback received: $2,085
Bonus cleared: $3,015
Cashouts: $1000
Total earnings $7,542
BR $10,749 |
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Posted: Tue, 06 May 2008, 6:20am Post subject: |
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Full House

Joined: 29 May 2006
Posts: 1165 WPP: 112
Location: surfing in a room
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Today´s headline:
I´m stuck
I dont know whats going on, but I feel like I´m running around in circles. It´s like....the swings are larger and longer than my graphs are showing. I feel like a year ago when I was stuck at 50NL 6max and seriously considered quitting poker. I don´t think about quitting now, but I hate the feeling of not progressing and doing huge mistakes. Good thing when u run bad for an extended time is, your senses for your own mistakes sharpen. Just like economy my/our evolution as a player revolves around 4 states of mind over and over again. Wait. I just had a great insight and deleted a long rambling about swings and whining and what a bitch I am and whatnot. I´m going through the newbie´s circle of death. Again and again and again. That is all. Doing well - Running hot - Running cold - Getting desperate, considering quitting. The symptomes are less visible, since we practice proper BRM and our game rests on a solid foundation of experience, knowledge and skill. Still, it´s the same story, where I need to run bad and lose money to sharpen my senses and motivate myself to get over the next hump and become a less bad player one day.
I didn´t play all that much lately, the sun is shining and we have >20°C for the first time in months. I´m rather out riding BMX, running or just chilling in a café watching the world go by. I participated in my first 1/2 marathon and finished 812/7899 at 01:46:21. Feels great.
Last 2k hands I played were 100NL HU, where I felt comfortable. This afternoon I played 2 tables vs a pretty good regular. I played my best didn´t feel like I got ran over or something. The guy told me I´m "unusual good good for these stakes" and kept playing me for 2 hrs, so I think he figured to have an edge over me.
#1 Early, but villian doesnt appear to be very good.
$0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
2 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
BTN ($131.50)
Hero ($139.80)
Pre-flop: ($1.5, 2 players) Hero is BB
BTN raises to $3.5, Hero raises to $11, BTN calls $7
Flop: ($21.5, 2 players)
Hero bets $10, BTN raises to $30, Hero calls $20
Turn: ($81.5, 2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $91.5, Hero calls $91.5
River: ($264.5, 2 players)
#2 Named solid regular. Both of us were opening almost 100% of their buttons, with semi tight and polarized 3betting ranges and very few 4betting going on.
$0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
2 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
Hero ($94.00)
BB ($141.60)
Pre-flop: ($1.5, 2 players) Hero is BTN
Hero raises to $3.5, BB raises to $11, Hero calls $7
Flop: ($21.5, 2 players)
BB bets $14, Hero raises to $32, BB goes all-in $131.6, Hero goes all-in $52
Turn: ($251.1, 2 players)
River: ($251.1, 2 players)
#3 Same villian
$0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
2 players
Converted at weaktight.com
Stacks:
Hero ($163.80)
BB ($101.00)
Pre-flop: ($1.5, 2 players) Hero is BTN
Hero raises to $3.5, BB raises to $11, Hero calls $7
Flop: ($21.5, 2 players)
BB bets $14, Hero raises to $36, BB goes all-in $91, Hero calls $55
Turn: ($217.5, 2 players)
River: ( | | | |