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pgil
Post Posted: Tue, 01 Apr 2008, 12:04pm    Post subject: live game bankroll? Reply with quote
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I would like to play semi-regularly at my local casino. It offers a 1/2NL $200 max game that I would play in. What are the usual bankroll guidelines for this limit?

Is it pretty well the same as the online requirement would be for the same stakes? is it smaller or larger? if so, why?
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pokerfan
Post Posted: Tue, 01 Apr 2008, 12:19pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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there's huge variance involved in loose live games, so i think you need larger BR than online to play 1-2 NL live. Keep it in mind that its easily down a few buy-ins vs casino donks / gamblers in multiway pot when your overpair got cracked by flush/gunshot/weak two pairs loose chasers. Also, you need to raise 6-10BB to thin the field in some loose passive games and spot some obvious Poker Tells at the table Wink
by the way, i really played a mix of live and online poker fulltime and brought in at least $1k cash whenever i popped into my local cardroom Razz


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Post Posted: Tue, 01 Apr 2008, 12:41pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Worth remembering and reminding yourself also that a 5-hour live session with 200 hands has a variance that is not really comparable to a multitabling online session with a couple of thousand hands. It will appear higher variance, but it might not actually be higher variance.
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Post Posted: Tue, 01 Apr 2008, 12:48pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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another thing is that you need strong poker discipline and huge patience in live games. Yeah, your patience will pay off for building your huge live roll over the long run. Good luck,buddy.
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Post Posted: Tue, 01 Apr 2008, 12:49pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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pokerfan wrote:
there's huge variance involved in loose live games, so i think you need larger BR than online to play 1-2 NL live.


Not really.

Live can play bigger than an online game with the same blinds, creating bigger swings, however the play is so terrible that you should have a considerably bigger edge.
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pgil
Post Posted: Tue, 01 Apr 2008, 1:10pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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so a 5-6K roll should do it then?
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Post Posted: Tue, 01 Apr 2008, 1:13pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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pgil wrote:
so a 5-6K roll should do it then?


Yes
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pokerfan
Post Posted: Tue, 01 Apr 2008, 1:23pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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By setting a stop loss like 3 buy-ins in NL games, we can justify walking away from the table.On the other hand, i like Ferguson 10% Rule " if any time during a No-Limit or Pot-Limit cash-game session my money on the table represents more than 10 percent of my total bankroll, I must leave the game when the blinds reach me".
Fnord wrote:
pokerfan wrote:
there's huge variance involved in loose live games, so i think you need larger BR than online to play 1-2 NL live.


Not really.

Live can play bigger than an online game with the same blinds, creating bigger swings, however the play is so terrible that you should have a considerably bigger edge.
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SirBank
Post Posted: Fri, 04 Apr 2008, 11:22am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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pokerfan wrote:
there's huge variance involved in loose live games, so i think you need larger BR than online to play 1-2 NL live. Keep it in mind that its easily down a few buy-ins vs casino donks / gamblers in multiway pot when your overpair got cracked by flush/gunshot/weak two pairs loose chasers. Also, you need to raise 6-10BB to thin the field in some loose passive games and spot some obvious Poker Tells at the table Wink
by the way, i really played a mix of live and online poker fulltime and brought in at least $1k cash whenever i popped into my local cardroom Razz
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