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wesrman
Post Posted: Mon, 31 Mar 2008, 6:22pm    Post subject: Stud Hi Hand.... Reply with quote
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3rd Street - (1.20 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 9Spade ___folds
Seat 2: xx xx 3Heart ___calls
Hero: JClub TSpade QHeart ___calls
Seat 6: xx xx 2Club ___brings-in
Seat 7: xx xx 8Club ___folds
Seat 8: xx xx 3Spade ___folds

4th Street - (2.40 SB)

Seat 2: xx xx 3Heart 7Heart ___checks
Hero: JClub TSpade QHeart 2Diamond ___checks
Seat 6: xx xx 2Club 4Club ___checks

5th Street - (1.20 BB)

Seat 2: xx xx 3Heart 7Heart 4Spade ___folds
Hero: JClub TSpade QHeart 2Diamond 9Heart ___checks___calls
Seat 6: xx xx 2Club 4Club QClub ___bets

6th Street - (3.20 BB)

Hero: JClub TSpade QHeart 2Diamond 9Heart 8Heart ___calls
Seat 6: xx xx 2Club 4Club QClub QDiamond ___bets

River - (5.20 BB)

Hero: JClub TSpade QHeart 2Diamond 9Heart 8Heart 5Spade ___bets
Seat 6: xx xx 2Club 4Club QClub QDiamond xx ___checks___calls

Total pot: (7.20 BB)


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wesrman
Post Posted: Mon, 31 Mar 2008, 7:08pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Obviously i should have raised 6th. That was a brain cramp and totally stupid on my part.
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Post Posted: Mon, 31 Mar 2008, 7:26pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I would raise 3rd. Best hand showing, seems somewhat hidden strength. Don't know how significant 1-2 outs gone is.

Otherwise makes sense.
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wesrman
Post Posted: Mon, 31 Mar 2008, 7:50pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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swiggidy wrote:
I would raise 3rd. Best hand showing, seems somewhat hidden strength. Don't know how significant 1-2 outs gone is.

Otherwise makes sense.

Not a bad idea. Ive also been told to raise 5th, but the problem with trying to take down the pot is that they dont fold...lol...EVER.
So i find it more prfitable to check and try for the free card.
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Post Posted: Mon, 31 Mar 2008, 9:01pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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pretty sure you don't want him to fold 5th

I didn't realize the action. bet call is way better than check bet call.

I'm assuming these villains are terrible, so I'm raising 3rd, normally betting 4th, I may check since I wtf missed. Lead 5th, so what if he doesn't think you have a pair of Qs (or cares).

so you have 7 outs.

know 12 cards, so 52-12= 40
(40-7)/40 = .825

6ht street
(38-7)/38 = .816

7th
(36-7)/36 = .801

.825*.816*.801 = 54%

so you brick slightly more than 1/2 the time. This assumes you need the straight to win, which is no way. Bet 5th.
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Post Posted: Mon, 31 Mar 2008, 10:25pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I like raising 3rd, probably getting the bring in to fold and getting the pot heads up

Definitely raise 6th
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Post Posted: Thu, 17 Apr 2008, 1:22pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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so you brick slightly more than 1/2 the time. This assumes you need the straight to win, which is no way. Bet 5th.


Doesn't hero miss straight about 1/3 of the time? Maybe I'm wrong, but with a 4-card straight on 5th st. (two cards to come), don't his odds against improving look more like:

5th st.:
52-12= 40
(40-7)/40 = .825

6th st.:
(38-7)/38 = .816

Odds against straight:
.825*.816 = .673

And, at these stakes (no fold equity!!!), I'm not sure that betting out on 5th st. is a good idea. A raise on 6th st. is warranted, though.

Maybe no... keep in mind, I'm a noob...
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Post Posted: Thu, 17 Apr 2008, 1:27pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Welcome to the forum Oteezy03.
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Post Posted: Sat, 19 Apr 2008, 5:34am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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he's probs a drunk higher stakes player
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Post Posted: Sat, 19 Apr 2008, 11:09pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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play2win wrote:
he's probs a drunk higher stakes player


fastest ban ever?
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Post Posted: Sun, 20 Apr 2008, 1:01pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Just fold 5th. The pot is tiny, you could be drawing dead, or you could make your hand only to have him draw to a flush anyways.
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Post Posted: Thu, 24 Apr 2008, 1:38pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Just a question for dsax or anyone, because I want to know: does the three open clubs on someone else's porch always mean you fold a straight draw? I've never thought about that - seems like it could be the right move, though?
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Post Posted: Sat, 26 Apr 2008, 5:13am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Not always, but I would when there's only 1 big bet in the pot. He's not all that likely to have a flush (a lot of players would have bet a 4 flush on 4th street), but it still doesn't seem worth it to call.
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